Re: [ECOLOG-L] Advice for 36 year old trying to get into M.S. program

2013-02-01 Thread Don McKenzie
That was my comment and I believe (unverified) that if they are more recent than a particular interval into the past, GRE scores are averaged rather than reported anew. I think you can check http://www.ets.org/gre/ for particulars. On 31-Jan-13, at 10:04 AM, Kyle Finn wrote: Someone

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Advice for 36 year old trying to get into M.S. program

2013-02-01 Thread Cochran-Stafira, D. Liane
Aaron, I very strongly disagree with your statement about not coming up with your own research idea. My advisor expected all PhD candidates to work on their own projects - not feed off of his. Masters level students were held by the hand much more, and they did projects that were spin-offs

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Advice for 36 year old trying to get into M.S. program

2013-02-01 Thread Katharine Miller
As a non-traditional student who will be defending her PhD next week (!), I can tell you that it can be very difficult to overcome the resistance to older students in graduate school. Despite having a lot of practical experience and an extremely strong academic record, I met serious resistance

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Advice for 36 year old trying to get into M.S. program

2013-02-01 Thread Elsa Youngsteadt
Liane articulates many of the thoughts I also had on this subject. I would add that refusing to work independently and creatively as a grad student--thereby protecting your own ideas for later use--could backfire if you ever need your colleagues and supervisors to vouch for your ability to

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Advice for 36 year old trying to get into M.S. program

2013-02-01 Thread Clara B. Jones
...protecting your own ideas for later use is a statement, in one form or another, that i've heard from quite a few early-career biologists over the years...long-story-short...your peers and Established Scientists are very, very bright...it is unlikely that an idea is so unique or precious that

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Advice for 36 year old trying to get into M.S. program

2013-02-01 Thread Eimy Rivas Plata
A very dear friend of mine (age 46) just started his Masters, after losing almost a decade when he couldn't decide if he was going to start or not... That said, when we first met and he shared the idea, I strongly encouraged him to go ahead, resistance from some teachers to students their age is

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Advice for 36 year old trying to get into M.S. program

2013-02-01 Thread Joy Cytryn
I have been reading this with interest. As a 55+ graduate student in geography, I have found the program extremely accepting and supportive. I am attending Hunter College part of the City University of New York. This is my second masters degree the first being an MBA at NYU's Stern School of

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Advice for 36 year old trying to get into M.S. program

2013-02-01 Thread Sean Clawson
Thank you all for the thoughtful responses, encouragement, and advice! After the weekend I will write a synopsis of email and on-list advice. Many have asked for confidentiality so I will write a synopsis in my own words and not mention any names. Although I have taken the GRE the scores

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Measuring the Human Mind Re: [ECOLOG-L] Advice for 36 year old trying to get into M.S. program

2013-02-01 Thread David L. McNeely
Wayne, the case you cite is quite different from the matter of the single datum of a GRE score. It also sounds like the department and faculty member were arrogant, but I was not there .. . Too bad for your friend. That clearly was not the place for her. But it sounds like it

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Advice for 36 year old trying to get into M.S. program

2013-01-31 Thread Kyle Finn
Someone mentioned retaking the GRE in a previous comment to this question. SO at what point then are your GRE scores old enough to warrant retaking the test?   From: Aaron T. Dossey bugoc...@gmail.com To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Sent: Wednesday, January 30,

[ECOLOG-L] Advice for 36 year old trying to get into M.S. program

2013-01-30 Thread Sean
Having graduated with an abysmal GPA from Colorado State University back in 2000 ( wildlife biology 2.7), I have found it very difficult getting into graduate school. Two winters ago I completed two graduate level classes at Oregon State: Forest Wildlife Management and a graduate

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Advice for 36 year old trying to get into M.S. program

2013-01-30 Thread Don McKenzie
Sean Age is not an intractable obstacle. I and others I know started an MS program older than you are. In our lab group, and in others of which I know, varied life experience is considered an asset for an incoming graduate student. If you are still in Corvallis, or elsewhere near a

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Advice for 36 year old trying to get into M.S. program

2013-01-30 Thread David L. McNeely
Sean seanrclaw...@yahoo.com wrote: Having graduated with an abysmal GPA from Colorado State University back in 2000 ( wildlife biology 2.7), I have found it very difficult getting into graduate school. Two winters ago I completed two graduate level classes at Oregon State: Forest

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Advice for 36 year old trying to get into M.S. program

2013-01-30 Thread malcolm McCallum
IF you are going to do a masters, do a thesis. When I was job hunting prior to my PHD, I had a lot of interviewers ask me what I did my THesis on and what did I TA. I know there are a lot of worthwhile non-thesis masters, but if you do a thesis, you always have the experience of doing some

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Advice for 36 year old trying to get into M.S. program

2013-01-30 Thread Diane S. Henshel
Sean - I think you also need to consider what you want to do when you get out of grad school. That also will determine what program you apply to/enroll in. When you investigate schools, also find out what jobs their graduates end up in. That will also tell you whether the graduate program and

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Advice for 36 year old trying to get into M.S. program

2013-01-30 Thread Aaron T. Dossey
My advice is: forget about graduate school. Find a way to get going with your dreams, passions interests and desired work rather than seeking training for it. I am 35 and the only thing that would take me back to any kind of school would be if I wanted to go to law or medical school, or some

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Advice for 36 year old trying to get into M.S. program

2013-01-30 Thread Michael Garvin
All depends on what you want, I went back at 35. Best decision I ever made. You can only go so far in the scientific world with a BS. Fact of life. It's a card that opens doors. But the most important thing is to enjoy what you are doing. If you can do that with a BS, do it. If not, go

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Advice for 36 year old trying to get into M.S. program

2013-01-30 Thread Jay Guarneri
Sean, Don and David have some good advice. Having been in a similar situation myself not too long ago (I'm currently working on finishing my Masters!!), I know how hard it can be to find a way in or feel like you are even qualified. I would add that you should also use your network. Is there

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Advice for 36 year old trying to get into M.S. program

2013-01-30 Thread Aaron T. Dossey
If you do for some reason (which I cannot currently imagine) to go to graduate school, here is some advice that will help you get the most out of it without putting the future of your career at risk: 1) pick a very HANDS-ON professor who spends a lot of time with his or her students and