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--Tom
From: Malcolm McCallum [mailto:malcolm.mccallum.ta...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 9:05 PM
To: Sappington, Thomas [ENT]
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So then, you were not ultimately included as an author because the process
worked.
Had you been placed
in the interest of the person involved, and more
> likely to be hurtful if they are left off and discover it. When in doubt,
> be generous….
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>
>
> Best Wishes,
>
> --Tom
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>
>
> *From:* Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news [mailto:
> ECOL
ote:
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>> The Ecological Society of America. See
>> http://www.esa.org/esa/about/governance/esa-code-of-ethics/
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Aaron T. Dossey [mailto:bugoc...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 10:22 AM
>> To: Cliff Duke ; ECOLOG-L@LISTS
Dear Jorge,
With many others, my thanks for raising the topic.
Here is how I would handle your dilemma.
I would focus on the criteria (ICMJE) or guidelines (ESA),
keeping in mind these are guidelines and criteria, not
rules and regulations.
Your dilemma is a potential co-author that has not see
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Is that Entomological Society or Ecological Society?
* A code written of, for and by professors I am sure nonetheless.
On 8/22/2016 8:15 AM, Cliff Duke wrote:
Concerning the r
Aaron T. Dossey ;
all.things.b...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Query on authorship
Is that Entomological Society or Ecological Society?
* A code written of, for and by professors I am sure nonetheless.
On 8/22/2016 8:15 AM, Cliff Duke wrote:
Concerning the recent "query on authorship,&
om
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Query on authorship
Is that Entomological Society or Ecological Society?
* A code written of, for and by professors I am sure nonetheless.
On 8/22/2016 8:15 AM, Cliff Duke wrote:
Concerning the recent "query on authorship," there is no ethical
ambiguity. Th
,
--Tom
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[mailto:ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU] On Behalf Of Loretta Fisher
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Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Query on authorship
I'm glad this discussion was started. I'm learning
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To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Query on authorship
Concerning the recent "query on authorship," there is no ethical ambiguity. The
ESA Code of Ethics is quite clear on th
;
all.things.b...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Query on authorship
Is that Entomological Society or Ecological Society?
* A code written of, for and by professors I am sure nonetheless.
On 8/22/2016 8:15 AM, Cliff Duke wrote:
> Concerning the recent "query on authorship," there is no ethi
the idea of not giving
credit to somebody who deserves it just seems wrong. This is a rock and a
hard place. Best, Jeff Houlahan
From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news
on behalf of Gary Grossman
Sent: August 20, 2016 12:04 PM
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UM
ong. This is a rock and a hard place. Best, Jeff Houlahan
>> --
>> *From:* Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news <
>> ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU> on behalf of Gary Grossman <
>> gdgross...@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Augu
>>>> on
>>>> a paper where they've done enough work to warrant authorship. If my name
>>>> showed up on a paper without me ever being aware that it had been submitted
>>>> I would be a little bothered. If I read the paper and didn't agree
Concerning the recent "query on authorship," there is no ethical ambiguity. The
ESA Code of Ethics is quite clear on that point:
"Researchers will not add or delete authors from a manuscript submitted for
publication without consent of those authors.
Researchers will not include as coauthor(s)
n't
>>> agree with the interpretation I would be very unhappy. That said, the idea
>>> of not giving credit to somebody who deserves it just seems wrong. This is
>>> a rock and a hard place. Best, Jeff Houlahan
>>>
>>> From: Ecologi
I vote b. I find a to be unethical (though sadly on par with academia). C
technically would be ethical but if it's good data why leave it out based on
the sole motivation of being exclusive rather than inclusive?
Who knows, you might be having a hard time finding the other student because
they
I would be very unhappy.
>> That said, the idea of not giving credit to somebody who deserves it just
>> seems wrong. This is a rock and a hard place. Best, Jeff Houlahan
>> --
>> *From:* Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news <
>
t
> seems wrong. This is a rock and a hard place. Best, Jeff Houlahan
> --
> *From:* Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news <
> ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU> on behalf of Gary Grossman <
> gdgross...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* August 20, 2016 12:04 PM
> *To:*
rom:* Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news <
> ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU> on behalf of Gary Grossman <
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> *To:* ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: [ECOLOG-L] Query on authorship
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> Querid
s wrong. This is a rock and a hard place. Best, Jeff Houlahan
*From:* Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news
on behalf of Gary Grossman
*Sent:* August 20, 2016 12:04 PM
*To:* ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
*Subject:* Re: [ECOLOG-L]
Hi Jorge,
I think you should try harder to track the individual down. Only after an
exhaustive search would I suggest that you move forward with publishing the
work.
Also, why not list the person as an author and denote that said person did
not contribute to writing and interpretation of data?
J
nts, jobs, news
on behalf of Gary Grossman
Sent: August 20, 2016 12:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Query on authorship
Querido Jorge, this is a murky area of co-authorship except for one point.
Coauthorship is *earned* and should not be taken away because of some othe
Querido Jorge, this is a murky area of co-authorship except for one point.
Coauthorship is *earned* and should not be taken away because of some other
circumstance outside of the project responsibilities. Given that the second
student completed the work while they were at your institution, the simp
Query on authorship
Dear Colleagues:
I am writing a small paper resulting from research done with two
undergraduates many years ago (and, later on, involving several other
colleagues using cutting-edge technology). As the results became obvious,
both of the students agreed (orally, in person) wit
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