Re: [ECOLOG-L] Job: National Coordinator for the Landscape Conservation Cooperatives initiative, USFWS

2013-05-27 Thread Wayne Tyson
The etymology of the term landscape means to scrape the land. Not much to do with ecology. Yes, I know that the word has come to mean something else, but it interferes with public understanding of the fundamental opposition of landscaping with ecosystems. It may be futile, but I'm gonna keep

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Job: National Coordinator for the Landscape Conservation Cooperatives initiative, USFWS

2013-05-27 Thread David L. McNeely
Wayne Tyson landr...@cox.net wrote: The etymology of the term landscape means to scrape the land. Not much to do with ecology. Yes, I know that the word has come to mean something else, but it interferes with public understanding of the fundamental opposition of landscaping with

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Job: National Coordinator for the Landscape Conservation Cooperatives initiative, USFWS

2013-05-27 Thread David M. Lawrence
I fundamentally disagree. I work with words, so meanings are very important to me, and I do not think there is any popular confusion between the noun usage of landscape and the verb usage. So let's try to avoid manufacturing such confusion now. Later, Dave On 5/27/2013 3:15 PM, David L.

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Job: National Coordinator for the Landscape Conservation Cooperatives initiative, USFWS

2013-05-27 Thread david schimel
note the dates below: Meaning tract of land with its distinguishing characteristics is from 1886.landscape (v.)http://etymonline.com/index.php?term=landscapeallowed_in_frame=0 [image: Look up landscape at Dictionary.com]http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=landscapeto lay out lawns, gardens,

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Job: National Coordinator for the Landscape Conservation Cooperatives initiative, USFWS

2013-05-27 Thread David L. McNeely
Certainly not scientific, and certainly not a random sample of people, but I asked four of my neighbors today what a landscape was, and what a landscape ecologist would do. All replied with some version of the planted grounds of a park, building, or home, and a person who creates such

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Job: National Coordinator for the Landscape Conservation Cooperatives initiative, USFWS

2013-05-27 Thread Jane Shevtsov
The word nice used to mean foolish. Etymology is fascinating, but it's a mistake to think that historical meanings or sources of words constrain current meanings. See http://www.fallacyfiles.org/etymolog.html and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etymological_fallacy . Jane Shevtsov On Sun, May 26,

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Job: National Coordinator for the Landscape Conservation Cooperatives initiative, USFWS

2013-05-27 Thread David M. Lawrence
Really? And none of them has ever seen a landscape painting or a landscape photograph -- that usually features NATURAL landscapes -- or has a poster of one on their wall? Did you even consider mentioning that when they seemed confused? I don't think we can read anything in your survey other

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Job: National Coordinator for the Landscape Conservation Cooperatives initiative, USFWS

2013-05-27 Thread malcolm McCallum
I taught the course for several years to mostly undergrads and it was typical for students to call it landscaping when they were attempting to sign up for it. No one had any idea what it was, imagine one actually reading the course description in the catalog or asking me? On Mon, May 27, 2013 at