Re: [ECOLOG-L] Plant Physiology Drought tolerance Re: [ECOLOG-L] course and symposium on plant breeding for drought tolerance

2011-12-22 Thread Wayne Tyson
: [ECOLOG-L] Plant Physiology Drought tolerance Re: [ECOLOG-L] course and symposium on plant breeding for drought tolerance Isn't drought tolerance defined by a plant's water use efficiency? C4 plants have the ability to fix 2 or 3 times more carbon with the same amount of water not because they use

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Plant Physiology Drought tolerance Re: [ECOLOG-L] course and symposium on plant breeding for drought tolerance

2011-12-22 Thread Martin Meiss
, December 21, 2011 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Plant Physiology Drought tolerance Re: [ECOLOG-L] course and symposium on plant breeding for drought tolerance To Wayne and others: Sorry about the C4/CAM confusion. It has been many years since I have thought about them and I forgot

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Plant Physiology Drought tolerance Re: [ECOLOG-L] course and symposium on plant breeding for drought tolerance

2011-12-22 Thread Merran
Meiss mme...@gmail.com To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Plant Physiology Drought tolerance Re: [ECOLOG-L] course and symposium on plant breeding for drought tolerance To Wayne and others: Sorry about the C4/CAM

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Plant Physiology Drought tolerance Re: [ECOLOG-L] course and symposium on plant breeding for drought tolerance

2011-12-22 Thread Wayne Tyson
: [ECOLOG-L] Plant Physiology Drought tolerance Re: [ECOLOG-L] course and symposium on plant breeding for drought tolerance [We obviously need more plant physiological ecologists on this list. I'm not one, and I'm going off the top of my head, so please forgive any errors I might make.] Water

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Plant Physiology Drought tolerance Re: [ECOLOG-L] course and symposium on plant breeding for drought tolerance

2011-12-21 Thread Colleen Grant
plant and necrosis to part or all of the plant has been the usual result.     From: Merran pantscr...@gmail.com To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Plant Physiology Drought tolerance Re: [ECOLOG-L

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Plant Physiology Drought tolerance Re: [ECOLOG-L] course and symposium on plant breeding for drought tolerance

2011-12-21 Thread Merran
brick road. WT - Original Message - From: as...@bio.miami.edu To: Wayne Tyson landr...@cox.net; ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 9:01 AM Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Plant Physiology Drought tolerance Re: [ECOLOG-L] course and symposium on plant breeding

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Plant Physiology Drought tolerance Re: [ECOLOG-L] course and symposium on plant breeding for drought tolerance

2011-12-21 Thread Wayne Tyson
evidence. Hence my post. WT - Original Message - From: Merran pantscr...@gmail.com To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Plant Physiology Drought tolerance Re: [ECOLOG-L] course and symposium on plant breeding for drought

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Plant Physiology Drought tolerance Re: [ECOLOG-L] course and symposium on plant breeding for drought tolerance

2011-12-21 Thread Wayne Tyson
...@gmail.com To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Plant Physiology Drought tolerance Re: [ECOLOG-L] course and symposium on plant breeding for drought tolerance Isn't drought tolerance defined by a plant's water use efficiency? C4

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Plant Physiology Drought tolerance Re: [ECOLOG-L] course and symposium on plant breeding for drought tolerance

2011-12-21 Thread Ganter, Philip
- From: Merran pantscr...@gmail.com To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Plant Physiology Drought tolerance Re: [ECOLOG-L] course and symposium on plant breeding for drought tolerance Isn't drought tolerance defined by a plant's water use

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Plant Physiology Drought tolerance Re: [ECOLOG-L] course and symposium on plant breeding for drought tolerance

2011-12-21 Thread Ian Ramjohn
[We obviously need more plant physiological ecologists on this list. I'm not one, and I'm going off the top of my head, so please forgive any errors I might make.] Water-use efficiency is not synonymous with drought tolerance - it's a measure of the amount of biomass a plant can make while

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Plant Physiology Drought tolerance Re: [ECOLOG-L] course and symposium on plant breeding for drought tolerance

2011-12-21 Thread Martin Meiss
-L] Plant Physiology Drought tolerance Re: [ECOLOG-L] course and symposium on plant breeding for drought tolerance Isn't drought tolerance defined by a plant's water use efficiency? C4 plants have the ability to fix 2 or 3 times more carbon with the same amount of water not because they use

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Plant Physiology Drought tolerance Re: [ECOLOG-L] course and symposium on plant breeding for drought tolerance

2011-12-20 Thread Amartya Saha
Sender: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 14:21:17 To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Reply-To: Wayne Tyson landr...@cox.net Subject: [ECOLOG-L] Plant Physiology Drought tolerance Re: [ECOLOG-L] course and symposium on plant

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Plant Physiology Drought tolerance Re: [ECOLOG-L] course and symposium on plant breeding for drought tolerance

2011-12-20 Thread Martin Meiss
Well, Wayne, wouldn't you consider C4 metabolism to be a form of drought tolerance that doesn't require restriction of biomass production? C4 plants can open their stomata at night, when water loss will be less than during the day, absorb C02 and store it in the C4 molecule. When the sun rises

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Plant Physiology Drought tolerance Re: [ECOLOG-L] course and symposium on plant breeding for drought tolerance

2011-12-20 Thread Wayne Tyson
] Plant Physiology Drought tolerance Re: [ECOLOG-L] course and symposium on plant breeding for drought tolerance Ecolog: What IS drought tolerance? What evidence is there that plants can manufacture more biomass/crop yield on less water rather than to evade water deficits by continuing to survive

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Plant Physiology Drought tolerance Re: [ECOLOG-L] course and symposium on plant breeding for drought tolerance

2011-12-20 Thread Martin Meiss
Tyson landr...@cox.net; ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 9:01 AM Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Plant Physiology Drought tolerance Re: [ECOLOG-L] course and symposium on plant breeding for drought tolerance Hi Wayne, an example icould be foodcrops such as rice that today have

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Plant Physiology Drought tolerance Re: [ECOLOG-L] course and symposium on plant breeding for drought tolerance

2011-12-20 Thread Wayne Tyson
: as...@bio.miami.edu To: Wayne Tyson landr...@cox.net; ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 9:01 AM Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Plant Physiology Drought tolerance Re: [ECOLOG-L] course and symposium on plant breeding for drought tolerance Hi Wayne, an example icould be foodcrops such as rice

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Plant Physiology Drought tolerance Re: [ECOLOG-L] course and symposium on plant breeding for drought tolerance

2011-12-20 Thread Wayne Tyson
mme...@gmail.com To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Plant Physiology Drought tolerance Re: [ECOLOG-L] course and symposium on plant breeding for drought tolerance Well, Wayne, wouldn't you consider C4 metabolism to be a form

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Plant Physiology Drought tolerance Re: [ECOLOG-L] course and symposium on plant breeding for drought tolerance

2011-12-20 Thread Wayne Tyson
PM Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Plant Physiology Drought tolerance Re: [ECOLOG-L] course and symposium on plant breeding for drought tolerance C4 metabolism (also known as Crassulacean acid metabolism) is accomplished by special biochemical pathways which have their basis in genetics. Since

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Plant Physiology Drought tolerance Re: [ECOLOG-L] course and symposium on plant breeding for drought tolerance

2011-12-20 Thread Merran
Isn't drought tolerance defined by a plant's water use efficiency? C4 plants have the ability to fix 2 or 3 times more carbon with the same amount of water not because they use less water in photosynthesis, but because they limit photorespiration and the amount of water lost through their