Re: Inaugural Call for Papers for the International Journal of Creation Research (IJCR).

2007-05-04 Thread David M. Lawrence
I'm not sure it's the scientists' fault. Many minds are made up before we get a chance to actually teach the public. We have a major public relations problem. Science offers everlasting doubt. Religion offers everlasting life. Some can handle the former, others deeply desire the latter. Most

Re: Peer Review: was International Journal of Creation Research (IJCR).

2007-05-04 Thread Dan Tufford
I will not get involved in a resumption of the peer review wars, but I will make one point. Those of us involved in the peer review process all have horror stories (I am in the middle of one right now). But if you are suggesting we get rid of peer review and rely on editors I would like the

Re: recommendations on total station survey equipment?

2007-05-04 Thread Christopher J Wells
Peter Gould is right on the money concerning the total station. Few people need 1 second of arc accuracy. But if you do need it, that's the only game in town. We just received an instrument that maybe of interest to folks who need modest accuracy and convenience in comparison to a total

Re: Peer Review: was International Journal of Creation Research (IJCR).

2007-05-04 Thread William Silvert
While I agree that this could degenerate into a discussion of anecdotes there is more to it than that. The last paragraph of my posting stated that Peer review is most useful for research that requires careful attention to standard protocols. and I think that we could legitimately ask whether

Re: Inaugural Call for Papers for the International Journal of Creation Research (IJCR)

2007-05-04 Thread Kelly Decker
Scientists argue Evolutionary theory all the time in scientific journals. Gould's theory vs Knoll's theory vs. People find holes in some of the evidence (for the mechanisms of evolution, not for evolution, itself) and discuss them in a scientific context. It already happens. So play

Re: Inaugural Call for Papers for the International Journal of Creation Research

2007-05-04 Thread Arcologic
I believe that the strength of science lies in its openness. We accept anyone's considered viewpoint, and then encourage others to verify the truthfulness of it by experiment or otherwise. Do we wish to restrict access to information? May I suggest that we only demand that the new

Re: Inaugural Call for Papers for the International Journal of Creation Research (IJCR).

2007-05-04 Thread Ann Showalter
In response to David's comments, I think the assumption that most individuals enter our education system with their minds already made up about evolution (or any idea for that matter) is false. It may be true for some but believing that it is true for the majority undermines the entire point of

Re: Inaugural Call for Papers for the International Journal of Creation Research (IJCR).

2007-05-04 Thread David M. Lawrence
There is considerable agreement among scientists about evolution. It's there if you want to see it. If you don't want to see it, you won't. Are you recommending that we all filter our work through some kind of thought police to ensure we present the correct message? The scientific community

Re: Inaugural Call for Papers for the International Journal of Creation Research

2007-05-04 Thread William Silvert
Ernie Rogers makes an amusing and ironic point about this controversial new journal. If they make it available free online, then anybody can read it, and many people will. If on the other hand you want to read an article in a respectable journal then you may have a lot of trouble getting access

Re: Inaugural Call for Papers for the International Journal of Creation Research (IJCR).

2007-05-04 Thread Judith Weis
To lighten up this discussion a bit, and slightly off-topic, the chorus I sing in will soon be doing a concert of Ralph Vaughan Williams pieces, and our conductor did some research for the program notes and learned: His mother was an heiress to the Wedgewood manufacturing fortune; his great

root image processing

2007-05-04 Thread Mark Coleman
The USDA Forest Service is seeking contractors interested in performing root image processing work for an ongoing research project. The work will be preformed on the contractor's computer equipment at their own location and is expected to average 20 hours of work per week to meet contract

Re: Inaugural Call for Papers for the International Journal of Creation Research (IJCR).

2007-05-04 Thread William Silvert
If you go to the IJCR website you will see that the institute is an accredited graduate school for science educators. I won't bother posting the full accreditation page here, but the following should be enough to scare most of you: The ICR Graduate School was approved by the State of

Job opportunity: Central Florida Invasive Plant Coordinator

2007-05-04 Thread Cheryl Millett
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Re: Inaugural Call for Papers for the International Journal of Creation Research

2007-05-04 Thread Kelly Decker
Ernie, What a thoughtful response. I certainly don't want to restrict info, what I do want is to leave no pseudoscientific claim left unrefuted. You may be right about openness and GW, but as Naomi Oreskes says about global warming: The scientific community needs to approach the issue with the

Paid 5 Month Internships with CBG

2007-05-04 Thread Kristen Kordecki
Chicago Botanic Garden’s Conservation and Land Management Internship Program in collaboration with the