I'm not sure it's the scientists' fault. Many minds are made up before we
get a chance to actually teach the public.
We have a major public relations problem. Science offers everlasting doubt.
Religion offers everlasting life. Some can handle the former, others deeply
desire the latter. Most
I will not get involved in a resumption of the peer review wars, but I will
make one point. Those of us involved in the peer review process all have
horror stories (I am in the middle of one right now). But if you are
suggesting we get rid of peer review and rely on editors I would like the
Peter Gould is right on the money concerning the total station. Few
people need 1 second of arc accuracy. But if you do need it, that's the
only game in town.
We just received an instrument that maybe of interest to folks who need
modest accuracy and convenience in comparison to a total
While I agree that this could degenerate into a discussion of anecdotes
there is more to it than that. The last paragraph of my posting stated that
Peer review is most useful for research that requires careful attention to
standard protocols. and I think that we could legitimately ask whether
Scientists argue Evolutionary theory all the time in scientific journals.
Gould's theory vs Knoll's theory vs.
People find holes in some of the evidence (for the mechanisms of evolution,
not for evolution, itself) and discuss them in a scientific context.
It already happens. So play
I believe that the strength of science lies in its openness. We accept
anyone's considered viewpoint, and then encourage others to verify the
truthfulness of it by experiment or otherwise. Do we wish to restrict access
to
information? May I suggest that we only demand that the new
In response to David's comments, I think the assumption that most
individuals enter
our education system with their minds already made up about evolution (or
any idea for that matter) is false. It may be true for some but believing
that it is true for the majority undermines the entire point
of
There is considerable agreement among scientists about evolution. It's
there if you want to see it. If you don't want to see it, you won't. Are
you recommending that we all filter our work through some kind of thought
police to ensure we present the correct message?
The scientific community
Ernie Rogers makes an amusing and ironic point about this controversial new
journal. If they make it available free online, then anybody can read it,
and many people will. If on the other hand you want to read an article in a
respectable journal then you may have a lot of trouble getting access
To lighten up this discussion a bit, and slightly off-topic, the chorus I
sing in will soon be doing a concert of Ralph Vaughan Williams pieces, and
our conductor did some research for the program notes and learned:
His mother was an heiress to the Wedgewood manufacturing fortune; his
great
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Ernie,
What a thoughtful response. I certainly don't want to restrict info, what I
do want is to leave no pseudoscientific claim left unrefuted. You may be
right about openness and GW, but as Naomi Oreskes says about global
warming: The scientific community needs to approach the issue with the
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