Re: [ECOLOG-L] Anti-singles discrimination? Re: [ECOLOG-L] Career - Life Balance supplements to NSF awards

2013-07-04 Thread David L. McNeely
Dossey, indeed you do have a life. But with no spouse and no kids, you have no basis for understanding what those who do have kids face in managing to work while managing their families. It is a great loss to science for them to drop out of work, or to have to miss work in order to care for

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Anti-singles discrimination? Re: [ECOLOG-L] Career - Life Balance supplements to NSF awards

2013-07-04 Thread Wendee Nicole
I have to admit I was a bit taken aback by the statement of Aaron. If he had said that about minorities and affirmative action, it would be CLEARLY inappropriate. But women are still discriminated against, not just deliberately by institutionally, and the plain facts are that despite women and men

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Anti-singles discrimination? Re: [ECOLOG-L] Career - Life Balance supplements to NSF awards

2013-07-04 Thread Alia T
So an attempt to correct the institutionalized discrimination against women in professional positions having children is discrimination against child-free people? Then I suppose you can extend the argument that being single with no children is a decision you've made with full knowledge of its

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Anti-singles discrimination? Re: [ECOLOG-L] Career - Life Balance supplements to NSF awards

2013-07-04 Thread Michael Clary
We are all much too busy managing our work and families, parents no longer own that distinction. To the degree that parenthood has been an informed choice for the average postdoc for some time, my modest proposal would be to make this opportunity available to any early career scientist who has