[ECOLOG-L] Is Nature still a credible journal? Or is this the era of Kardasian science?

2015-04-15 Thread David Duffy
While perusing an abstract in Nature this week , http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v520/n7547/full/520266d.html?WT.ec_id=NATURE-20150416 I found a button to click called Article Metrics. Once clicked, I found it had three different metrics: 1. citations (zero as the article is brand new, but

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Is Nature still a credible journal? Or is this the era of Kardasian science?

2015-04-15 Thread Caitlin Littlefield
As a millennial ecologist(-in-training), I regularly skim through the TOCs of most ecological journals, and I certainly see many articles circulated through email. But a non-trivial amount of my exposure to new science is through the Twitter feeds of the journals themselves, scientific

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Is Nature still a credible journal? Or is this the era of Kardasian science?

2015-04-15 Thread David Duffy
Oh dear, I apologize if I was not clear. I do not object to using social media. My concern is with using them as metrics of science quality and more generally for outreach. Amongst my concerns are fake and irrelevant postings on Twitter, the ability to buy likes on Facebook, both censorship of

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Is Nature still a credible journal? Or is this the era of Kardasian science?

2015-04-15 Thread Casey terHorst
I don't think that these metrics should be used as a strict metric of quality, but I don't think they can be dismissed either. The same media that report on pop culture phenomena are also now used to report news from the New York Times, Washington Post, and NPR. Many people now use Twitter,

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Is Nature still a credible journal? Or is this the era of Kardasian science?

2015-04-15 Thread Rosenbaum, Stacy
Hi David, Let me preface this by saying I am not active on social media. The extent of my presence is a mostly inactive Facebook account that is more personal than professional. However, I fully recognize that I am increasingly in the minority. Many of my colleagues tweet/Facebook/blog/Reddit

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Is Nature still a credible journal? Or is this the era of Kardasian science?

2015-04-15 Thread Mitch Cruzan
I agree completely. Nature is not the only journal that is exploring alternative methods to increase exposure through tweets, fb, etc. The more exposure the better, and all the journals are competing for attention. The bigger problem with flash-science journals like Nature and Science is