[ECOLOG-L] Ecological phenomenological analysis Take Cover Re: [ECOLOG-L] Transformation of percent cover data for power analysis

2011-12-01 Thread Wayne Tyson
of percent cover data for power analysis Hi Brian, I've been encountering this percent cover issue for a while. Unfortunately my data was all based on Braun-Blanquet estimates so analysis has been tricky. I converted to midpoint percent estimates (not strictly legitimate but served the purpose

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Transformation of percent cover data for power analysis

2011-11-30 Thread Jordan Marshall
Brian I use arcsin(square root(proportion)) anytime I'm doing analysis of percent data. The reason may not be justified for the type of simulation your running, which I'm not familiar with. I use this transformation since percent data is inherently not normally distributed.

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Transformation of percent cover data for power analysis

2011-11-30 Thread David Schneider
Hello all, For advice on the use of the arcsin transform, I recommend the following paper: http://www.esajournals.org/doi/abs/10.1890/10-0340.1 The title itself is worth poking the link. David Schneider Quoting Jordan Marshall marsh...@ipfw.edu: Brian I use arcsin(square

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Transformation of percent cover data for power analysis

2011-11-30 Thread Liz Pryde
Hi Brian, I've been encountering this percent cover issue for a while. Unfortunately my data was all based on Braun-Blanquet estimates so analysis has been tricky. I converted to midpoint percent estimates (not strictly legitimate but served the purpose) and then had the same problem you did.

[ECOLOG-L] Transformation of percent cover data for power analysis

2011-11-29 Thread Brian Mitchell
Hello ecolog, I am working on a power analysis simulation for long-term forest monitoring data, with the goal of documenting our power to detect trends over time. The simulation is based on a repeated measures hierarchical model, where future data is simulated based on the initial data set and a