Re: [ECOLOG-L] Research Assistantship in Primate Behavior and Spatial Ecology

2019-01-09 Thread Ari Yamaguchi
Thank you Ian and Dr. Cruzan for speaking up about these posts yet again. I
am personally opposed to having these posts on Ecolog as well.

Assuming they won't stop, *I propose a new practice* of adding an obvious
tag in the subject line. E.g., "[ECOLOG-L] *(Fee program)* Research
Assistantship in..."

Additionally, it may be appropriate for the listserv moderators to
determine rules about what is appropriate on Ecolog; e.g., Ecolog may only
be used to advertise volunteer and paid positions OR it may also be used to
advertise these pay-to-play programs. Either way, an explicit determination
would streamline these discussion threads that I've seen the listserv cycle
through many times now.

Best,
Ari

On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 10:09 PM cruzan  wrote:

> I am opposed to this type of advertisement. It is a commercial activity
> and not one that is likely to provide a high quality education or research
> experience. These organizations are more like tour experiences and they
> should not be allowed to post on this list.
>
> Mitch Cruzan
>
> On 1/8/2019 10:05 AM, Ian Medeiros wrote:
>
> Advertising a program which costs $2700 as a "Research Assistantship"
> strikes me as disingenuous. As I've said on this list before, I'm not
> absolutely opposed to pay-to-participate programs being posted on ECOLOG, I
> just think there needs to be more truth in advertising. The definition of
> "assistantship" in Webster's starts with "a paid appointment..." and that
> is how most people would interpret the title of this post—until they see
> the price tag.  - Ian
>
> On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 5:54 AM Field Projects International - Mini Watsa <
> ad...@primates-peru.org> wrote:
>
>> Overview: Tamarins are notoriously difficult to track and identify in the
>> wild, because of their diminutive size and morphological homogeneity. In
>> this program, we monitor a population of ~14 tamarin groups, individually
>> identifiable and radio-collared, to study their space use and means of
>> communication.
>>
>> We collect data on adult scent gland morphology and scent-marking
>> behaviour, another primary form of communication among tamarins.
>> Participants will conduct full- and half-day follows of individually tagged
>> primate troops, recording alarm calls and scent-marks alongside habitat use
>> and feeding ecology.
>>
>> Program dates: June 3 – August 12, 2019
>> Start dates: June 3, June 17, July 1
>> Minimum stay required: 6 weeks
>> Application deadline: April 14, 2019 for June start dates, May 14 for
>> July start date.
>> Program fee: $2700 for 6 weeks; $450 each additional week
>> Appeals to majors: Anthropology, Biology, Wildlife Management, Psychology
>> Training areas: Off-trail navigation, wildlife tracking, telemetry, focal
>> behavioural sampling, spatial analyses.
>>
>> Program link: https://fieldprojects.org/research/
>>
>
>
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>
> Ian D. Medeiros
> https://imedeirosbotany.wordpress.com
>
> Ph.D. student
> Lutzoni Lab
> Department of Biology
> Duke University
> Durham, NC, USA
>
>
>
> --
> --
> Mitch Cruzan
> Professor of Biology
> Portland State University
> PO Box 751
> Portland, OR 97207 USA
> Web:https://cruzanlab.weebly.com/
> --
> Evolutionary Biology - A Plant Perspective *Mitchell B. Cruzan*
> * Available through all good bookshops, or direct from Oxford University
> Press
> 

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Research Assistantship in Primate Behavior and Spatial Ecology

2019-01-08 Thread cruzan
I am opposed to this type of advertisement. It is a commercial activity 
and not one that is likely to provide a high quality education or 
research experience. These organizations are more like tour experiences 
and they should not be allowed to post on this list.


Mitch Cruzan


On 1/8/2019 10:05 AM, Ian Medeiros wrote:
Advertising a program which costs $2700 as a "Research Assistantship" 
strikes me as disingenuous. As I've said on this list before, I'm not 
absolutely opposed to pay-to-participate programs being posted on 
ECOLOG, I just think there needs to be more truth in advertising. The 
definition of "assistantship" in Webster's starts with "a paid 
appointment..." and that is how most people would interpret the title 
of this post—until they see the price tag.  - Ian


On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 5:54 AM Field Projects International - Mini 
Watsa mailto:ad...@primates-peru.org>> wrote:


Overview: Tamarins are notoriously difficult to track and identify
in the wild, because of their diminutive size and morphological
homogeneity. In this program, we monitor a population of ~14
tamarin groups, individually identifiable and radio-collared, to
study their space use and means of communication.

We collect data on adult scent gland morphology and scent-marking
behaviour, another primary form of communication among tamarins.
Participants will conduct full- and half-day follows of
individually tagged primate troops, recording alarm calls and
scent-marks alongside habitat use and feeding ecology.

Program dates: June 3 – August 12, 2019
Start dates: June 3, June 17, July 1
Minimum stay required: 6 weeks
Application deadline: April 14, 2019 for June start dates, May 14
for July start date.
Program fee: $2700 for 6 weeks; $450 each additional week
Appeals to majors: Anthropology, Biology, Wildlife Management,
Psychology
Training areas: Off-trail navigation, wildlife tracking,
telemetry, focal behavioural sampling, spatial analyses.

Program link: https://fieldprojects.org/research/



--

Ian D. Medeiros
https://imedeirosbotany.wordpress.com

Ph.D. student
Lutzoni Lab
Department of Biology
Duke University
Durham, NC, USA




--

Mitch Cruzan
Professor of Biology
Portland State University
PO Box 751
Portland, OR 97207 USA
Web:https://cruzanlab.weebly.com/



 Evolutionary Biology - A Plant Perspective

*/Mitchell B. Cruzan/*/
Available through all good bookshops, or direct from Oxford University 
Press 

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Research Assistantship in Primate Behavior and Spatial Ecology

2019-01-08 Thread Ian Medeiros
Advertising a program which costs $2700 as a "Research Assistantship"
strikes me as disingenuous. As I've said on this list before, I'm not
absolutely opposed to pay-to-participate programs being posted on ECOLOG, I
just think there needs to be more truth in advertising. The definition of
"assistantship" in Webster's starts with "a paid appointment..." and that
is how most people would interpret the title of this post—until they see
the price tag.  - Ian

On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 5:54 AM Field Projects International - Mini Watsa <
ad...@primates-peru.org> wrote:

> Overview: Tamarins are notoriously difficult to track and identify in the
> wild, because of their diminutive size and morphological homogeneity. In
> this program, we monitor a population of ~14 tamarin groups, individually
> identifiable and radio-collared, to study their space use and means of
> communication.
>
> We collect data on adult scent gland morphology and scent-marking
> behaviour, another primary form of communication among tamarins.
> Participants will conduct full- and half-day follows of individually tagged
> primate troops, recording alarm calls and scent-marks alongside habitat use
> and feeding ecology.
>
> Program dates: June 3 – August 12, 2019
> Start dates: June 3, June 17, July 1
> Minimum stay required: 6 weeks
> Application deadline: April 14, 2019 for June start dates, May 14 for July
> start date.
> Program fee: $2700 for 6 weeks; $450 each additional week
> Appeals to majors: Anthropology, Biology, Wildlife Management, Psychology
> Training areas: Off-trail navigation, wildlife tracking, telemetry, focal
> behavioural sampling, spatial analyses.
>
> Program link: https://fieldprojects.org/research/
>


-- 

Ian D. Medeiros
https://imedeirosbotany.wordpress.com

Ph.D. student
Lutzoni Lab
Department of Biology
Duke University
Durham, NC, USA