Re: hyp testing

2000-04-11 Thread Donald F. Burrill
On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Bruce Weaver wrote in part, quoting Bob Frick: ... Bob Frick has some very interesting things to say about all of this. For example, the following is taken from his 1995 Memory Cognition paper (Vol 23, pp. 132-138), "Accepting the null hypothesis": start quote

Help! With digital input signal statistics. Please!

2000-04-11 Thread Nigel Money
Title: I apologise if this e-mail is sent to an inappropriate e-mail list, but as I am a little desperate I am willing to give it a try. Being an electronic engineering student statistics and probability is not a strong point.I am trying to develop high level characterisation for the power

examples of excel

2000-04-11 Thread William Dudley
I seem to recall that while back someone posted a listing of URLS for examples of lessons in statistics using MS Excel. I wonder if anyone has that list or can recommend another source. Thanks Bill === This list is open

Re: cluster analysis

2000-04-11 Thread Paige Miller
Elisa Wood wrote: Can anyone help with good resources on the web, journals, books, etc on cluster analysis - simularity and ordination. Any recommended programs for this type of analysis too. Classification Society of North America http://www.pitt.edu/~csna/ -- Paige Miller Eastman Kodak

Re: Sensible nulls

2000-04-11 Thread Robert Dawson
Michael Granaas wrote: I want to see if I am interpreting your meaning correctly. If some value such as "3" comes from some place sensible then your null here would represent the same idea that I have been expressing as (mu1 - mu2) - 3 = 0? Yes. -Robert Dawson

Looking for a statistics software catalog that I used to get (Scientific Software?)

2000-04-11 Thread Jon Hancock
I used to receive a catalog (I believe it was called "Scientific Software" or "Scientific and Engineering Solutions" or something like that) that sold products such as Gauss, SAS, and MathCad. Is this catalog still available? Does anyone have their phone number? Do they have a web site? Thanks

Re: hyp testing

2000-04-11 Thread Robert Dawson
- Original Message - From: I wrote: (4) In order to avoid circular logic, we *cannot* assume what we want to prove, in order to compute the probability. We can however assume it for a contradiction. Therefore... and Michael Granaas responded This (point 4) is certainly what

Re: cluster analysis

2000-04-11 Thread Art Kendall
The Classification Society of North America is a group of people who do these kinds of things. they have the Journal of Classification. see http://www.pitt.edu/~csna/ Elisa Wood wrote: Can anyone help with good resources on the web, journals, books, etc on cluster analysis - simularity and

hyp testing and rho

2000-04-11 Thread dennis roberts
here are two sample r values ... done in minitab ... and the associated output Correlations: C52, C53 Pearson correlation of C52 and C53 = 0.599 P-Value = 0.000 MTB corr c54 c55 Correlations: C54, C55 Pearson correlation of C54 and C55 = 0.586 P-Value = 0.075 now, minitab prints out a p

Re: hyp testing and rho

2000-04-11 Thread Alan Hutson
If the null hypothesis is H0: mu1-mu2=0 and the alternative is H1: mu1-mu20 What does the test say about mu1-mu2 if we reject H0 at level alpha(say at the magical 0.05)? Not much on its own. However, what if we plan a statistical experiment as follows: Given a desired power of

Re: hyp testing and rho

2000-04-11 Thread Alan Hutson
dennis roberts wrote: this was not about a difference in rhos .. just the rho singly from that population ... It can be framed similarly replace mu1-mu2 with rho If the null hypothesis is H0:rho=0 and the alternative is H1:rho0 What does the test say about rho if we reject H0 at

Re: hyp testing and rho

2000-04-11 Thread Alan Hutson
at the bottom dennis roberts wrote: At 11:26 AM 4/11/00 -0400, you wrote: dennis roberts wrote: this was not about a difference in rhos .. just the rho singly from that population ... It can be framed similarly replace mu1-mu2 with rho If the null hypothesis is

Re: hyp testing

2000-04-11 Thread Michael Granaas
On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, Robert Dawson wrote: - Original Message - I wrote: (4) In order to avoid circular logic, we *cannot* assume what we want to prove, in order to compute the probability. We can however assume it for a contradiction. Therefore... and Michael

Re: hyp testing and rho

2000-04-11 Thread Alan Hutson
I agree that rho=0 as typically used is silly. Well are you are arguing then for the Bayesian framework of getting a probability distribution on rho.?? dennis roberts wrote: At 11:58 AM 4/11/00 -0400, you wrote: at the bottom it would be easy to show whether rho is more likely closer

Re: examples of excel

2000-04-11 Thread dennis roberts
i found this ... someone has made some excel demos ... using the lotus product screencam ... which shows desktop work ... http://www.business.utah.edu/~mgtdgw/statmov.htm screencam can be seen at http://www.lotus.com/home.nsf/welcome/screencam you need a screencam player ... which is a

Re: hyp testing

2000-04-11 Thread dennis roberts
At 02:29 PM 4/11/00 -0300, Robert Dawson wrote: The problem is that failure to reject means *either* that the null is true *or* that the sample size too small *or* both; "or" both says then ... that the null IS true AND that sample size is TOO small ... too small for what???

Re: hyp testing

2000-04-11 Thread Robert Dawson
At 02:29 PM 4/11/00 -0300, Robert Dawson wrote: The problem is that failure to reject means *either* that the null is true *or* that the sample size too small *or* both; and Dennis Roberts responded "or" both says then ... that the null IS true AND that sample size is TOO small

Hypothesis testing and magic

2000-04-11 Thread Alan McLean
I have been reading all the back and forth about hypothesis testing with some degree of fascination. It's a topic of particular interest to me - I presented a paper called 'Hypothesis testing and the Westminster System' at the ISI conference in Helsinki last year. What I find fascinating is the

Re: hyp testing

2000-04-11 Thread dennis roberts
At 07:12 PM 4/10/00 -0700, David A. Heiser wrote: - Original Message - From: Michael Granaas mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] Our current verbal lables leave much to be desired. Depending on who you ask the "null hypothesis" is a) a hypothesis of no effect