Re: Student's t vs. z tests

2001-04-23 Thread Alan McLean
I can't help but be reminded of learning to ride a bicycle. 99.% of people ride one with two wheels (natch!) - but many children do start to learn with training wheels.. Alan dennis roberts wrote: > > the fundamental issue here is ... is it reasonably to expect ... that when > you are m

Re: Student's t vs. z tests

2001-04-23 Thread Robert J. MacG. Dawson
dennis roberts wrote: > > the fundamental issue here is ... is it reasonably to expect ... that when > you are making some inference about a population mean ... that you will > KNOW the variance in the population? No, Dennis, of course it isn't - at least in the social sciences and usu

Re: Student's t vs. z tests

2001-04-23 Thread dennis roberts
the fundamental issue here is ... is it reasonably to expect ... that when you are making some inference about a population mean ... that you will KNOW the variance in the population? i suspect that the answer is no ... in all but the most convoluted cases ... or, to say it another way ... i

Re: Student's t vs. z tests

2001-04-23 Thread Robert J. MacG. Dawson
Jon Cryer wrote: > > These examples come the closest I have seen to having a known variance. > However, often measuring instruments, such as micrometers, quote their > accuracy as a percentage of the size of the measurement. Thus, if you > don't know the mean you also don't know the variance.

Re: Student's t vs. z tests

2001-04-23 Thread Will Hopkins
At 1:18 PM -0500 23/4/01, Jon Cryer wrote: >These examples come the closest I have seen to having a known variance. >However, often measuring instruments, such as micrometers, quote their >accuracy as a percentage of the size of the measurement. Thus, if you >don't know the mean you also don't kno

Re: Student's t vs. z tests

2001-04-23 Thread Jon Cryer
These examples come the closest I have seen to having a known variance. However, often measuring instruments, such as micrometers, quote their accuracy as a percentage of the size of the measurement. Thus, if you don't know the mean you also don't know the variance. Jon Cryer At 09:28 AM 4/23/01

Re: ANCOVA vs. sequential regression

2001-04-23 Thread Paul Swank
It's also called a test of homogeneity of regression slopes, but it is really just a an interaction. There is also a test of parallelism in profile analysis which tends to confuse the issue. I sometimes wonder if it is worth it to try and give all these tests names. An interaction is always a test

Re: Student's t vs. z tests

2001-04-23 Thread Alan Zaslavsky
> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:02:57 -0500 > From: Jon Cryer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Could you please give us an example of such a situation? > > ">Consider first a set of measurements taken with > >a measuring instrument whose sampling errors have a known standard > >deviation (and approximately n