Re: misusing stats: examples

2000-05-16 Thread Rich Ulrich
On 15 May 2000 07:31:17 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Granaas) wrote: snip The misinterpretation of results by the popular press has become a core topic for me in recent years. While some of the misinterpretations may be harmless (I doubt that eating extra fiber would hurt you unless

Re: misusing stats: examples

2000-05-15 Thread Michael Granaas
On Fri, 12 May 2000, Rich Ulrich wrote: snip Or, there are bad news reports, that don't really say what the study said. more snipping So: Here is another aspect of error -- what is reported in a journal, as opposed to what is claimed in a newspaper. The misinterpretation of

RE: misusing stats: examples

2000-05-15 Thread dennis roberts
At 10:30 AM 5/15/00 -0500, Simon, Steve, PhD wrote: There have been a lot of interesting comments in this thread. Let me just add my two cents. Anyway, what I tell them is that nine times out of ten, the mistake was not in how the data was analyzed, but in how it was collected. After all, if you

Re: misusing stats: examples

2000-05-15 Thread Rich Ulrich
On 15 May 2000 08:58:41 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Simon, Steve, PhD) wrote: ... "Here's a draft of what I have written." (review of article for Steve's Web site). On-line reference given for article. Thornley, Ben, and Adams, Clive "Content and quality of 2000 controlled trials in

Re: misusing stats: examples

2000-05-11 Thread Thom Baguley
Gene Gallagher wrote: I have recently seen examples of the thrip fallacy in the op-ed pages of the Boston Globe. Massachusetts has implemented state-wide standardized testing and has increased state funding for school districts with low test scores. Statistical analysis reveals that Five

Re: misusing stats: examples

2000-05-11 Thread Robert Dawson
- Original Message - From: Gene Gallagher Here is an error that is subtle, but very common. The statistical test (multiple regression) was applied perfectly, but the statistical inference was wrong. My first reference to this type of error is in the classic, but highly

Re: misusing stats: examples

2000-05-10 Thread Gene Gallagher
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Uplandcrow wrote: I teach research methods for social science at a small liberal arts college. The level of math in the class is low, I use Richard Black's "Doing Quantitative Research in the Soc. Sci." and excerpts from Gujarati's "Basic Econometrics." SNIP I

Re: misusing stats: examples

2000-05-10 Thread Jill Binker
Ralph Johnson and J. anthony Blair are the authors of _Logical Self-Defense_. (I know, I did a year of grad study in Informal Logic with them.) At 8:13 PM -0400 5/9/00, Donald F. Burrill wrote: On Tue, 9 May 2000, Jerry Winegarden wrote, in reply to Uplandcrow's request: Uplandcrow wrote:

Re: misusing stats: examples

2000-05-09 Thread Donald F. Burrill
On Tue, 9 May 2000, Jerry Winegarden wrote, in reply to Uplandcrow's request: Uplandcrow wrote: SNIP I am looking for examples of articles that use a stat procedure incorrectly. A "MUST READ" for this class: "How To Lie with Statistics". Best little book in the world! Many

Re: misusing stats: examples

2000-05-08 Thread V. Partridge
Found references to two of Hurlbert's papers: Hurlbert, S. H. 1984. Pseudoreplication and the design of ecological field experiments. Ecological Monographs 54:187-211. Hurlbert, S. H. 1990. Spatial distribution of the montane unicorn. Oikos. 58: 257-271. "V. Partridge" wrote: Look up

Re: misusing stats: examples

2000-05-05 Thread V. Partridge
Look up papers by Stuart Hurlburt, who points up commonly-made errors in ecological research. Two of note are his paper on pseudoreplication (in Ecological Monographs, circa 1989, I think) and "The Spatial Distribution of the Montane Unicorn" (I don't recall the journal). V. Partridge

Re: misusing stats: examples

2000-05-01 Thread Art Kendall
would you please compile responses and re-post them? Uplandcrow wrote: I teach research methods for social science at a small liberal arts college. The level of math in the class is low, I use Richard Black's "Doing Quantitative Research in the Soc. Sci." and excerpts from Gujarati's "Basic

Re: misusing stats: examples

2000-05-01 Thread Uplandcrow
would you please compile responses and re-post them? Yes, I plan to. I've gotten 4 or 5 good sugestions and I want to look at the articles. Then I will post the citations and a summary. Cheers, Jon === This list is open

Re: misusing stats: examples

2000-04-30 Thread Michael F.
Uplandcrow wrote: I am looking for examples of articles that use a stat procedure incorrectly. A literature search of important journals in the subject area in which your students major might show that common problems have been addressed. For example, the articles below address problems