Re: 2x2 tables in epi. Why Fisher test?

2001-05-10 Thread Herman Rubin
In article 9deiug$l0h$[EMAIL PROTECTED], Ronald Bloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Significance tests for 2x2 tables require that the single observed table be regarded as if it were, (under the null hypothesis of uniformity or independence) but a single instance drawn at random from a universe

Re: 2x2 tables in epi. Why Fisher test?

2001-05-10 Thread Ronald Bloom
In sci.stat.edu Herman Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Each one of these probability setups 1-3 gives rise to a somewhat different small-sample inferential test. In particular, the schemes (1),(2),(3) give rise to distributions conditioned on 3, 2, and 1 fixed parameters respectively. But

Question

2001-05-10 Thread Magill, Brett
A colleague has a data set with a structure like the one below: ID X1 X2 Y 1 1 0.700.40 2 1 0.800.40 3 1 0.650.40 4 2 1.200.25 5 2 1.100.25 6 3 0.900.30 7 4 0.500.50 8

Re: (none)

2001-05-10 Thread Rich Ulrich
- selecting from CH's article, and re-formatting. I don't know if I am agreeing, disagreeing, or just rambling on. On 4 May 2001 10:15:23 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Huberty) wrote: CH: Why do articles appear in print when study methods, analyses, results, and conclusions are somewhat

Re: 2x2 tables in epi. Why Fisher test?

2001-05-10 Thread Rich Ulrich
- I offer a suggestion of a reference. On 10 May 2001 17:25:36 GMT, Ronald Bloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ snip, much detail ] It has become the custom, in epidemiological reports to use always the hypergeometric inference test -- The Fisher Exact Test -- when treating 2x2 tables

Re: 2x2 tables in epi. Why Fisher test?

2001-05-10 Thread Elliot Cramer
In sci.stat.consult Ronald Bloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Herman as usual is absolutely correct; the validity of the Fisher test is analagous to the validity of regression tests which are derived conditional on x but, since the distribution does not involve x, are valid unconditionally even if

Re: Question

2001-05-10 Thread dennis roberts
this is not unlike having scores for students in a class ... one score for each student and ... the age of the teacher of THOSE students ... for a class ... scores will vary but, age for the teacher remains the same ... but the age might be different in ANother class with a different teacher

Re: 2x2 tables in epi. Why Fisher test?

2001-05-10 Thread David Duffy
In sci.stat.edu Ronald Bloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It has become the custom, in epidemiological reports to use always the hypergeometric inference test -- The Fisher Exact Test -- when treating 2x2 tables arising from all manner of experimental setups -- e.g. Only for tables with small

Q: statistical techniques for series of events

2001-05-10 Thread Mark W. Humphries
I have a sample set of series of state-changes/events/behaviors, from this sample I'd like to generalize a scoring method for the likelihood of a criterion behavior on other data sets. Could someone guide me to the appropriate statistical technique for this type of problem and any useful

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2001-05-10 Thread EugeneGall
Subject: Re: (none) From: Rich Ulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 5/10/2001 5:15 PM Eastern Snip? CH: Why do articles appear in print when study methods, analyses, results, and conclusions are somewhat faulty? - I suspect it might be a consequence of Sturgeon's Law, named after the science

Re: Question

2001-05-10 Thread Donald Burrill
On Thu, 10 May 2001, Magill, Brett wrote, inter alia: How should these data be analyzed? The difficulty is that the data are cross level. Not the traditional multi-level model however. Hi, Brett. I don't understand this statement. Looks to me like an obvious place to apply multilevel