Re: [Ekiga-list] Leaving
getting errors when trying to unsubscribe. If the administrator is in here, could you please drop me. Thanks and best wishes to all of you. I have enjoyed watching Ekiga progress... Dee _ Get free photo software from Windows Live http://www.windowslive.com/online/photos?ocid=PID23393::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_PH_software:082009___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] New User Experience
From: b...@barfone.serveftp.net To: ekiga-list@gnome.org Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 09:49:42 +1300 Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] New User Experience Thanks for that, I'd be interested to know how you get on. Is that Ekiga V2 or V3 on the Ubuntu CD? Ubuntu has an installer to put the live CD onto a USB flash drive with persistent memory. If Ekiga will work of that, that would be very useful. I've just tried it on Debian Etch with similar results to Centos 5.1, audio but no video. In fact it did not even detect the camera as a camera only as a USB audio device even after installing V4L2. Barf I'll check the version and report this after I get a chance to see if Ekiga makes reliable connects with this Ubuntu distro, although I am pretty sure others here have reported on this recently. I do wonder if your video prob is kernel config issue not related to Ekiga. So far, when a webcam was not detected/working with Ekiga here on my side, it was due solely to not compiling in the kernel support for the webcam in the first place. I presume Ekiga has no video drivers of its own. As for V4L2, I do not know this even matters. The driver module for my Philips ToUcam webcam happens to be marked for compiling in the kernel config file by default and gets loaded automatically, but this may not be true for your webcam. Does any other application in your current Debian or Centos installs find your webcam? Can you see if the driver module loads (lsmod)? If not, you should look into configing your kernel if the driver even exists in the kernel source, or search for a download for a driver module. Even for my ancient webcam, I prefer to download a more recent driver module because it offers higher resolution than the kernel driver that comes with my Linux Slackware distro. Dee _ Windows Live™ Hotmail®…more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_howitworks_012009___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] New User Experience
I just successfully launched Ekiga version integrated into the Ubuntu LTS 8.04.1 CD. Ubuntu was not even installed, just booted directly from the CD. I was not online so got a error messsage that looked related to this. Ekiga found my ancient Phillips USB ToUcam webcam without needing to go through any configs in kernel or Ekiga. On this same box, Ekiga definitely crashes under Linux Slackware 12.0 + Gnome. On another machine connected network, that same Ubuntu CD, again booted from the disk (not installed to HDD), also found my network and I was online without any network configs. Ekiga launched, but no one to connect to. I will try in coming days to make some SIP connects between Sweden and California and see if actual connections work. If so, booting with the Ubuntu CD should prove a fast/easy way to use Ekiga for people like me working on other Linux adventures. Dee From: b...@barfone.serveftp.net To: ekiga-list@gnome.org Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:44:24 +1300 Subject: [Ekiga-list] New User Experience Hi All, New user of Ekiga, some comments which may or not be helpful. First the positive comment, the video response is far better in linux than Windoze. It worked fine on the 2 Windoze machines I tried it on I had a frustrating time trying to get this to work on linux. As you know when starting out with something new you're never quite sure if its your hardware, software or the application that's not working. It did not help that the trouble shooting tips were for version 2 and mostly irrelevant to version 3. So I tried first on my main distro Fedora 10 X86-64. Got video but no audio, sometimes got a could not start device message sometimes not, after reading this list I removed pulse audio but still no audio (in or out). Sometimes would not start the camera and needed to log out/in to get it working again. Next Fedora 10 I386, same problem as above although I didn't remove pulse audio. Next Centos 5.1 i386, yaay, good audio both ways but no video probably not in the kernel. Next Open SUSE 11.1 x86-64 on a laptop, nothing worked errors for both audio and video devices , didn't try to tweak anything. Next (yes I have few linux machines) Fedora 8 i386. Success, it works, so now we can have confidence that Ekiga does work and can now try to get it to play nicely on the other machines I agree with the comments made else where in this list that a plugin to handle pulse audio is a must. At the end of the day how many people will be willing to maintain a machine with an old or degraded distro just to use Ekiga. Not too many I'd bet and fewer as time goes on. It would also be extremely helpful if you published a list of distros that Ekiga works on (without extensive hacking) and those it is known not to work on, such as any distro using pulse audio. Summary. When it did work it was very good but trying to get it to work was probably more effort than it was worth (about 16 manhours of fiddling and reading). ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list _ Windows Live™ Hotmail®:…more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_explore_012009___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] can't get ekiga to work
You can surely get some kind of help here, but you'll need to give specifics. I have not been able to get Ekiga running due to problems with audio driver. It did however install and find my camera and sound card. My problem is so far seems restricted to the Linux sound drivers, like the defaults on a Slackware 12.0 install because that is the only error I get in association with Ekiga stalling. It would be nice to hear more details from people who actually do get Ekiga to work under Linux. Specific hardware and Linux distro/versions that work would be nice. Dee Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 10:27:50 +0300 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ekiga-list@gnome.org Subject: [Ekiga-list] can't get ekiga to work hi, Can anyone direct me to a chatroom or somewhere i can get interactive help. For some reason i can't get ekiga to work...i've been trying for weeks thanks _ Stay up to date on your PC, the Web, and your mobile phone with Windows Live. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093185mrt/direct/01/___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga on Asus EEE / PC900 ?
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:32:59 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ekiga-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga on Asus EEE / PC900 ? On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 4:52 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 5 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:00:49 + From: D Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga on Asus EEE / PC900 ? To: Ekiga mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Anyone know if Ekiga has proven to work on the Asus EEE / PC900 computers. This little computer looks like wave of future, but so far I have only seen demos in shops with Skype installed and without a network connection. I converted (perverted?) my EEE 4G from the installed Linux (which does have Skype pre-installed) to eeeXubuntu. http://wiki.eeeuser.com/ubuntu:eeexubuntu:home One of the (few) options for Xubuntu softphone installs was Ekiga. After some sound config confusion I ran the echo test. Worked great. I assume Speaking of which, I found this less than favorable review: http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=k_9ikGorgk0 Dee _ Be the filmmaker you always wanted to be—learn how to burn a DVD with Windows®. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588797/direct/01/___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga on Asus EEE / PC900 ?
One of the (few) options for Xubuntu softphone installs was Ekiga. After some sound config confusion I ran the echo test. Worked great. I assume Assume? Did you actually use it? Several people have told me it was running, but when I asked if they were able to make a connection they had never tried. Ekiga has crashed while trying to make connections. Webcam and sound can otherwise appear to work. the echo test does make a connect somewhere; does it not? http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Fun_Numbers If not and these do not require a connection, then no, I have not actually used it. At all. If the echo test works, the rest must work. It behaves like any other ekiga softphone you would connect to. -- _ Damien Sandras This makes sense, as long as the echo (SIP: 500 ?) works reliably. That Youtube link I just sent, which was a Canadian review about this particular hardware, specifically mentions and demonstrates that the webcam will not work under the EEE version of Ubuntu, so I assumed Ekiga won't work, at least the video won't. If someone here got audio, video AND Ekiga working under EEE Ubuntu, then please feel free to post details of your success here and on Youtuibe, hopefully explaining why this difference from the Canadian. Dee _ See what people are saying about Windows Live. Check out featured posts. http://www.windowslive.com/connect?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_connect2_082008___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
[Ekiga-list] Ekiga on Asus EEE / PC900 ?
Anyone know if Ekiga has proven to work on the Asus EEE / PC900 computers. This little computer looks like wave of future, but so far I have only seen demos in shops with Skype installed and without a network connection. Dee _ Get ideas on sharing photos from people like you. Find new ways to share. http://www.windowslive.com/explore/photogallery/posts?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Photo_Gallery_082008___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga on Asus EEE / PC900 ?
I have working webcam on another machine. Sound device works fine with everything else except Ekiga. You maybe recall I brought up the PCM problems several moons ago? Still no fix in sight. Since this is pretty standard Linux (Slackware) install, I reckoned it affected a lot of people trying to use Ekiga. I still wonder what Linux distro, etc actually works with Ekiga. That left me asking about specific hardware and Linux installations. The Asus EEE is very convenient because a huge number of people bought this, so we would all be talking about essentially same hardware and software. Potential replacement for mobile phones! Damian, I know you're in here... it would be nice to see a working, factory installed Ekiga on this toy. Dee Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:24:34 +0200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ekiga-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga on Asus EEE / PC900 ? As long as Audio Device Webcam works with Linux , which seems to be the case , I don't why Ekiga would not work. If you talk about Windows , It's different. On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 11:00 AM, D Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know if Ekiga has proven to work on the Asus EEE / PC900 computers. This little computer looks like wave of future, but so far I have only seen demos in shops with Skype installed and without a network connection. Dee Get ideas on sharing photos from people like you. Find new ways to share. Get Ideas Here! ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list -- %---% Michel memeteau Blog 0.2 : http://memeteau.free.fr Fixe : 0874763294 Mobile : 0624808051 VOIP | Visio: sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber/GoogleTalk : xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list _ See what people are saying about Windows Live. Check out featured posts. http://www.windowslive.com/connect?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_connect2_082008___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga on Asus EEE / PC900 ?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ekiga-list@gnome.org Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:39:38 +0200 Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga on Asus EEE / PC900 ? Le lundi 25 août 2008 à 12:59 +, D Webb a écrit : I have working webcam on another machine. Sound device works fine with everything else except Ekiga. You maybe recall I brought up the PCM problems several moons ago? Still no fix in sight. Since this is pretty standard Linux (Slackware) install, I reckoned it affected a lot of people trying to use Ekiga. I still wonder what Linux distro, etc actually works with Ekiga. That left me asking about specific hardware and Linux installations. The Asus EEE is very convenient because a huge number of people bought this, so we would all be talking about essentially same hardware and software. Potential replacement for mobile phones! Damian, I know you're in here... it would be nice to see a working, factory installed Ekiga on this toy. I'm sorry, but I don't know what PCM problems you are talking about... I suppose that if there was a bug affecting so many Ekiga users, they would complain. -- _ Damien Sandras (o- The one you and I discussed on this list several months back. You asked me to post a bug report and I did: Ekiga: sndrv_pcm_hw_params: Assertion `err = 0' failed Maybe now you remember? I think a lot of people did complain about this, but maybe not to this list. You commented that this is not an Ekiga problem, but clearly knew it was happening. At least on my box, this was happening together with Ekiga crashing. Never got Ekiga working on my box. Dee _ See what people are saying about Windows Live. Check out featured posts. http://www.windowslive.com/connect?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_connect2_082008___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga on Asus EEE / PC900 ?
Ekiga: sndrv_pcm_hw_params: Assertion `err = 0' failed AFAIK, this has been fixed in ALSA. There was a bug fix for some other asserts, but did not fix this particular assert. Bug fix was installed on my box. Dee _ Get thousands of games on your PC, your mobile phone, and the web with Windows®. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588800/direct/01/___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga on Asus EEE / PC900 ?
One of the (few) options for Xubuntu softphone installs was Ekiga. After some sound config confusion I ran the echo test. Worked great. I assume Assume? Did you actually use it? Several people have told me it was running, but when I asked if they were able to make a connection they had never tried. Ekiga has crashed while trying to make connections. Webcam and sound can otherwise appear to work. Dee _ Talk to your Yahoo! Friends via Windows Live Messenger. Find out how. http://www.windowslive.com/explore/messenger?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenger_yahoo_082008___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga developers interview on Free Software Magazine
I hope you mentioned the ALSA bug. Word really needs to get out. Dominic From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:30:11 +0200 CC: ekiga-list@gnome.org Subject: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga developers interview on Free Software Magazine Hello, See: http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/interview_with_ekiga_developers -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ NOVACOM : http://www.novacom.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list _ Make i'm yours. Create a custom banner to support your cause. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Contribute/Default.aspx?source=TXT_TAGHM_MSN_Make_IM_Yours___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] freeze with Microdia webcam
Hi Dee, D Webb wrote: How does top look? Are you using a kernel that actually uses both processors and you see this with hitting 1 while top is running? yes, the 2 processors are active and Ekiga takes over one of them when the camera is connected: #~ top (...) Cpu0 : 5.6%us, 1.0%sy, 0.0%ni, 93.0%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.3%si, 0.0%st Cpu1 : 0.3%us, 99.7%sy, 0.0%ni, 0.0%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st (...) 21377 david 20 0 86224 29m 19m R 98 1.5 0:08.80 ekiga (...) I'm using Debian Lenny's latest kernel: #~ uname -rsv Linux 2.6.24-1-686 #1 SMP Thu Mar 27 17:45:04 UTC 2008 I guess this can be a problem in the uvcvideo driver, but it seems to work ok with other apps... any suggestions on how to further debug this? Thanks for your comments, Hi again, I can't think of anything more right now. It seems we have similar SMP machines and kernels. The memory problem on older machines with less memory was one I knew about because I have seen it reproducibly. I also know that adding swap made it go away, again, on a much older machine. I have had problems with Ekiga crashing when I try to make a call, but I have left it on for days at a time without making a call, but with my webcam installed and it looked to keep grabbing frames in a steady stream for the entire time. My webcam is a USB Philips ToUcam using the pre-packaged kernel driver. I have heard of some webcam problems regarding V4L2 with Ekiga that disappeared once switched to V4L (maybe vice versa as well). I guess you could try changing the webcam settings in Ekiga and see what happens. Dee _ Get in touch in an instant. Get Windows Live Messenger now. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_getintouch_042008___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] details: Ekiga crash on Slackware 12.0
Please mail the output of ldd /usr/bin/ekiga so we can determine it. -- _ Damien Sandras linux-gate.so.1 = (0xe000) libstdc++.so.6 = /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0xb7eb) libgcc_s.so.1 = /usr/lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0xb7ea5000) libesd.so.0 = /usr/lib/libesd.so.0 (0xb7e9b000) libaudiofile.so.0 = /usr/lib/libaudiofile.so.0 (0xb7e76000) libgnomeui-2.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgnomeui-2.so.0 (0xb7df2000) libSM.so.6 = /usr/lib/libSM.so.6 (0xb7dea000) libICE.so.6 = /usr/lib/libICE.so.6 (0xb7dd2000) libbonoboui-2.so.0 = /usr/lib/libbonoboui-2.so.0 (0xb7d78000) libgnomevfs-2.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgnomevfs-2.so.0 (0xb7d1d000) libgnomecanvas-2.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgnomecanvas-2.so.0 (0xb7cee000) libart_lgpl_2.so.2 = /usr/lib/libart_lgpl_2.so.2 (0xb7cd7000) libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 (0xb793) libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 (0xb78a6000) libatk-1.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libatk-1.0.so.0 (0xb788c000) libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 (0xb7875000) libpangocairo-1.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0 (0xb786c000) libpango-1.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libpango-1.0.so.0 (0xb7835000) libcairo.so.2 = /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2 (0xb77c) libebook-1.2.so.9 = /usr/lib/libebook-1.2.so.9 (0xb778d000) libgnome-2.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgnome-2.so.0 (0xb7779000) libpopt.so.0 = /usr/lib/libpopt.so.0 (0xb7772000) libedataserver-1.2.so.9 = /usr/lib/libedataserver-1.2.so.9 (0xb774f000) libxml2.so.2 = /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2 (0xb7635000) libgconf-2.so.4 = /usr/lib/libgconf-2.so.4 (0xb7604000) libbonobo-2.so.0 = /usr/lib/libbonobo-2.so.0 (0xb75b1000) libbonobo-activation.so.4 = /usr/lib/libbonobo-activation.so.4 (0xb759e000) libgmodule-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so.0 (0xb759b000) libORBit-2.so.0 = /usr/lib/libORBit-2.so.0 (0xb7548000) libgthread-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0 (0xb7544000) librt.so.1 = /lib/librt.so.1 (0xb7513000) libdbus-glib-1.so.2 = /usr/lib/libdbus-glib-1.so.2 (0xb74f8000) libdbus-1.so.3 = /usr/lib/libdbus-1.so.3 (0xb74c6000) libgobject-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 (0xb748d000) libavahi-common.so.3 = /usr/lib/libavahi-common.so.3 (0xb7483000) libavahi-client.so.3 = /usr/lib/libavahi-client.so.3 (0xb7474000) libavahi-glib.so.1 = /usr/lib/libavahi-glib.so.1 (0xb7471000) libglib-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0xb73a7000) libSDL-1.2.so.0 = /usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0 (0xb72f5000) libpt_linux_x86_r.so.1.10.10 = /usr/lib/libpt_linux_x86_r.so.1.10.10 (0xb700) libopal_linux_x86_r.so.2.2 = /usr/lib/libopal_linux_x86_r.so.2.2 (0xb66d3000) libdl.so.2 = /lib/libdl.so.2 (0xb66cf000) libpthread.so.0 = /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0xb66b8000) libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0xb6691000) libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb654f000) libX11.so.6 = /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 (0xb6467000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7f95000) libasound.so.2 = /usr/lib/libasound.so.2 (0xb63a5000) libgnome-keyring.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgnome-keyring.so.0 (0xb6397000) libjpeg.so.62 = /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 (0xb6377000) libssl.so.0 = /usr/lib/libssl.so.0 (0xb6337000) libcrypto.so.0 = /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0 (0xb61f9000) libresolv.so.2 = /lib/libresolv.so.2 (0xb61e5000) libutil.so.1 = /lib/libutil.so.1 (0xb61e1000) libgailutil.so.18 = /usr/lib/libgailutil.so.18 (0xb61da000) libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 (0xb61aa000) libXcomposite.so.1 = /usr/lib/libXcomposite.so.1 (0xb61a7000) libXdamage.so.1 = /usr/lib/libXdamage.so.1 (0xb61a3000) libXfixes.so.3 = /usr/lib/libXfixes.so.3 (0xb619e000) libfontconfig.so.1 = /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 (0xb6173000) libXext.so.6 = /usr/lib/libXext.so.6 (0xb6165000) libXrender.so.1 = /usr/lib/libXrender.so.1 (0xb615d000) libXinerama.so.1 = /usr/lib/libXinerama.so.1 (0xb6159000) libXi.so.6 = /usr/lib/libXi.so.6 (0xb6151000) libXrandr.so.2 = /usr/lib/libXrandr.so.2 (0xb614b000) libXcursor.so.1 = /usr/lib/libXcursor.so.1 (0xb6142000) libfreetype.so.6 = /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6 (0xb60d5000) libz.so.1 = /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0xb60c) libpng12.so.0 = /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0 (0xb6085000) libcamel-1.2.so.10 = /usr/lib/libcamel-1.2.so.10 (0xb603a000) libplds4.so = /usr/lib/libplds4.so (0xb6036000) libplc4.so = /usr/lib/libplc4.so (0xb6031000) libnspr4.so = /usr/lib/libnspr4.so (0xb5ff1000) libdb-4.4.so = /usr/lib/libdb-4.4.so (0xb5ef7000) libORBitCosNaming-2.so.0 = /usr/lib/libORBitCosNaming-2.so.0 (0xb5ef3000) libnsl.so.1 = /lib/libnsl.so.1 (0xb5edc000) libssp.so.0 = /usr/lib/libssp.so.0 (0xb5ed8000) libvga.so.1 =
Re: [Ekiga-list] details: Ekiga crash on Slackware 12.0
I cannot find any way to edit the original bug report to increase the priority, but I think we have made it quite clear there is a crash affecting a lot of people. Not sure I can do much more for the moment. Thanks for all your help so far. Greatly appreciated! Dee _ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_messenger_video_042008___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
[Ekiga-list] details: Ekiga crash on Slackware 12.0
OK, I can now offer some specifics of my Ekiga 2.0.11 crash problem under Linux Slackware 12.0. I am trying to run Ekiga in KDE 3.5. Ekiga is from gsb-complete install (whatever version was current towards end of Jan 2008). Here are some details in chronological order. 1. Installed alsa-plugins-1.0.16 like this: patch -p1 alsa-pulse.patch ./configure make make install Rebooted/checked /usr/lib/alsa-lib. Updated files and links found. 2. Ran Ekiga offline. Got these two errors: --- error 1 - Error while starting the listener for the SIP protocol You will not be able to receive incoming SIP calls. Please check that no other program is already running on the port used by Ekiga. --- error 2 Same as above for H.323 - 3. Tried removing some modules: Removed following modules: bash-3.1# rmmod snd_seq_dummy bash-3.1# rmmod snd_seq_oss bash-3.1# rmmod snd_seq_midi_event bash-3.1# rmmod snd_seq bash-3.1# rmmod snd_seq_device bash-3.1# rmod snd_pcm_oss bash-3.1# rmmod snd_pcm_oss bash-3.1# rmmod snd_mixer_oss Still get the two above errors --- 4. Tested if this problem occurs while online. Launched Ekiga online, still the two errors pop up. I went ahead and tried to make a call. Ekiga crashed, giving this: --- error 3 -- bash-3.1# ekiga (ekiga:3305): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: gsignal.c:1715: handler `2912' of instance `0x849f980' is not blocked ekiga: pcm_params.c:2351: sndrv_pcm_hw_params: Assertion `err = 0' failed. Aborted bash-3.1# -- 5. Here is how my computer looks at time of crash: Here are modules at time of crash: bash-3.1# lsmod Module Size Used by ipv6 254496 14 lp 13736 0 parport_pc 27812 1 parport34632 2 lp,parport_pc psmouse39048 0 intel_agp 25116 1 agpgart31432 1 intel_agp evdev 11904 2 uhci_hcd 25612 0 Here is memory at time of crash: bash-3.1# ps -A PID TTY TIME CMD 1 ?00:00:01 init 2 ?00:00:00 migration/0 3 ?00:00:00 ksoftirqd/0 4 ?00:00:00 migration/1 5 ?00:00:00 ksoftirqd/1 6 ?00:00:00 events/0 7 ?00:00:00 events/1 8 ?00:00:00 khelper 9 ?00:00:00 kthread 58 ?00:00:00 kblockd/0 59 ?00:00:00 kblockd/1 60 ?00:00:00 kacpid 163 ?00:00:00 ata/0 164 ?00:00:00 ata/1 165 ?00:00:00 ata_aux 166 ?00:00:00 ksuspend_usbd 169 ?00:00:00 khubd 171 ?00:00:00 kseriod 172 ?00:00:00 kgameportd 198 ?00:00:00 pdflush 199 ?00:00:00 pdflush 200 ?00:00:00 kswapd0 201 ?00:00:00 aio/0 202 ?00:00:00 aio/1 345 ?00:00:00 scsi_tgtd/0 346 ?00:00:00 scsi_tgtd/1 351 ?00:00:00 scsi_eh_0 352 ?00:00:00 scsi_eh_1 392 ?00:00:00 kcryptd/0 393 ?00:00:00 kcryptd/1 482 ?00:00:00 udevd 1443 ?00:00:00 kpsmoused 1581 ?00:00:00 syslogd 1585 ?00:00:00 klogd 2023 ?00:00:00 inetd 2031 ?00:00:00 sshd 2039 ?00:00:00 acpid 2047 ?00:00:00 dbus-daemon 2052 ?00:00:00 hald 2053 ?00:00:00 hald-runner 2059 ?00:00:00 hald-addon-keyb 2060 ?00:00:00 hald-addon-keyb 2063 ?00:00:00 hald-addon-acpi 2065 ?00:00:00 hald-addon-stor 2081 ?00:00:00 crond 2083 ?00:00:00 atd 2127 ?00:00:00 gpm 2129 tty1 00:00:00 bash 2130 tty2 00:00:00 agetty 2131 tty3 00:00:00 agetty 2132 tty4 00:00:00 agetty 2133 tty5 00:00:00 agetty 2137 tty6 00:00:00 agetty 2218 ?00:00:00 gam_server 2387 tty1 00:00:00 startx 2403 tty1 00:00:00 xinit 2404 tty7 00:00:25 X 2408 tty1 00:00:00 sh 2409 tty1 00:00:00 startkde 2438 tty1 00:00:00 start_kdeinit 2439 ?00:00:00 kdeinit 2442 ?00:00:00 dcopserver 2444 ?00:00:00 klauncher 2446 ?00:00:00 kded 2451 tty1 00:00:00 kwrapper 2453 ?00:00:00 ksmserver 2454 ?00:00:01 kwin 2456 ?00:00:00 kdesktop 2458 ?00:00:01 kicker 2459 ?00:00:00 kio_file 2467 ?00:00:02 artsd 2470 ?00:00:00 kaccess 2472 ?00:00:00 kscd 2481 ?00:00:04 Terminal 2487 ?00:00:00 dbus-daemon 2488 ?00:00:00 dbus-launch 2490 ?00:00:00 gnome-pty-helpe 2491 pts/100:00:00 bash 2492 pts/200:00:00 bash 2493 ?00:00:00 knotify 2495 ?00:00:00 klipper 2497 ?00:00:00 korgac 2510 pts/200:00:00 gconfd-2 2512 ?00:00:00 bonobo-activati
Re: [Ekiga-list] details: Ekiga crash on Slackware 12.0
2. Ran Ekiga offline. Got these two errors: --- error 1 - Error while starting the listener for the SIP protocol You will not be able to receive incoming SIP calls. Please check that no other program is already running on the port used by Ekiga. --- error 2 Same as above for H.323 - This is the current normal behavior. Hmmm. This also happens when I am online, but I have successfully received incoming calls earlier. Should this error also pop up even when I am online, and also when Ekiga really can receive an incoming call? Dee _ More immediate than e-mail? Get instant access with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_instantaccess_042008___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] [Ekiga-devel-list] Ekiga 3.00 available for WIN32 *only*
Le mercredi 02 avril 2008 à 00:57 +0200, Torsten Schlabach a écrit : Mhmmm ... 2 hours before the end of April 1st! You got me for some minutes. It was indeed an April Fool ;-) -- _ Damien Sandras Sad! Windows is a commercial operating system. Commercial software is quite fitting. It is now 2 April and I am not fooling. Dee _ Going green? See the top 12 foods to eat organic. http://green.msn.com/galleries/photos/photos.aspx?gid=164ocid=T003MSN51N1653A___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype
I'm almost sure the problem is this: http://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=2601 http://pulseaudio.org/ticket/23 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ekiga/+bug/112948 Regards, Yannick I reported to bugtrack that the patch for report 2601 does not fix the crash I report, nor does it remove the assert error I am getting. Dee _ In a rush? Get real-time answers with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_realtime_042008___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] core dump
Here is the core dump that happens when I now try a call. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ekiga: pcm_params.c:2351: sndrv_pcm_hw_params: Assertion `err = 0' failed. [1]+ Aborted (core dumped) ekiga Any ideas? So is this your working (formerly working) UbuntuStudio 7.0 and Ekiga 2.0.11? The assert error is how I ended up on this list. no solution so far, but by all accounts it is a bug in alsa-lib that I have reported with ALSa. I do not get the core dump so far. Any idea if you get the assert error even if Ekiga works fine or if it is directly related to this crash? Dee _ How well do you know your celebrity gossip? http://originals.msn.com/thebigdebate?ocid=T002MSN03N0707A___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype
The Windows version is beta software. We do not have any maintainer for it (I even removed it from the website). If we can not find a maintainer, that means there is no interest for it, so we can drop it. Ouch! I guess that basically kills Ekiga. Its appeal was that it worked on Linux and Windows which greatly increased its versatility. There just are not that many people using Linux. What is required to be a maintainer? Dee _ In a rush? Get real-time answers with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_realtime_042008___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype
Hello, I follow the discussion with great interst. I use Skype and VoIPBuster a lot, because the children and family of my wife live in the States, Australia and China. However, until now I am not able to get Ekiga working. The webcam is not working, and I found out that I have to pay for the calls using Ekiga. (home phoners/fixed). Question: I am a real newbee, any reamrks concerning the items I wrote above. Please comment. HAns Minekus - There are a lot of VoIP programs out there these days. I decided to follow Ekiga because I support the open software concept. Ekiga has thus far been offered to the world as a very generous gift. Of the programs I have tested, Ekiga is proving to offer the best sound quality, but many people are having problems getting it to work reliably. I have been trying Ekiga 2.0.11 that comes with recent distro of Gnome under Linux Slackware 12.0 and kernel 2.6.21. I have not yet complete success yet with this OS or FreeBSD 7.0. I also failed to get it to work under Windows, but this might only be because of some mis-understandings. I think you need to install GTK+ to get it to work in Windows, but following the chage-logs, I got idea Ekiga should not depend on GTK because there were some comments about removing the error message about requiring GTK. What OS are you using? Others, There is no error, I actually have gotten very good sound quality with a 56K modem. Ekiga is crashing for now and I am trying to solve this. However, I can say with great certainty the sound quality has been very good when Ekiga does not crash. Interesting point that Skype was originally described as working well with no more than a modem connection. I have never once experienced that. It seems Ekiga has some efficiency that ends up benefiting the end user in terms of efficiency and sound quality, which is why I want to see this go. Dee _ Watch “Cause Effect,” a show about real people making a real difference. Learn more. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_watchcause___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype
proving to offer the best sound quality, but many people are having problems getting it to work reliably. I have been trying Ekiga 2.0.11 that We rarely get crash reports... My advice might be biased, but Ekiga has always had a good reputation of stability and reliability. -- _ Damien Sandras I think this is because you have been re-directing bug reports to other software like alsa-lib, which I reported. However, alsa-lib is pretty much standard on all Linux distros. So if Ekiga is crashing because of a conflict with alsa-lib, regardless of where the fault lies, Ekiga won't work reliably under Linux without some kind of changes. I have yet to see Ekiga work with Linux (default Slackware 12.0 install + Gnome) or FreeBSD 7.0, although a friend finally did get it to work under Windows. I know of one report of someone getting Ekiga to work under Ubuntu, and I am thinking to give that a try, although I do not yet understand why the distribution would make a difference, assuming they are all using ALSA. There are plenty of people around here who have tried and failed, so it is clear there are problems. I guess I could ask around for specifics from others. I already reported the alsa-lib problem. I certainly do not want to detract in any way from your hard work. Ekiga looks like great software. Dee _ Windows Live Hotmail is giving away Zunes. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/ZuneADay/?locale=en-USocid=TXT_TAGLM_Mobile_Zune_V3___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype
This is rather new desktop computer I would think can handle anything Core2Duo 2.0 Ghz and 2 Gig memory. Latest hardware and Linux Slackware 12.0 and Ekiga 2.0.11. Connection is 56K modem. I knew for a while Skype can be real choppy on a modem connection, but wanted to see if this would also be true with other VoIP software. I was REALLY surprised sound quality with Ekiga was same as regular phone, and vastly better than Skype. I am very sure of this. I have repeated it a number of times. For the moment, there are still problems with Ekiga crashing, but that is separate matter that I hope to solve. When Ekiga has not crashed, sound is really good, despite also having a webcam. Dee Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 08:30:07 +0100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ekiga-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype Maybe because Skype requires more CPU ? Which hardware power was it ? On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:11 PM, D Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I should mention that I have tinkered with a number of VoIP programs and have been comparing. One reason to stick with Ekiga was that when it works, the sound stream seems to be more efficient than Skype. While on same equipment Skype is choppy, Ekiga VoIP streams about as well as a regular phone. Any thought on how/why? in the present case, it is exactly the same hardware/software and internet connection. dee Windows Live Hotmail is giving away Zunes. Enter for your chance to win. ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list -- %---% Michel memeteau Blog 0.2 : http://memeteau.free.fr Fixe : 0874763294 Mobile : 0624808051 VOIP | Visio: sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber/GoogleTalk : xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list _ Watch “Cause Effect,” a show about real people making a real difference. Learn more. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_watchcause___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype (D Webb)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:26:30 +0100 To: ekiga-list@gnome.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype (D Webb) On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 12:00:38PM +, D Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... same equipment Skype is choppy, Ekiga VoIP streams about as well as a regular phone. Any thought on how/why? in the present case, it is exactly the same hardware/software and internet connection. remember that skype is a p2p app while ekiga acts as client for a server. Hah, didn't know Skype was p2p, I always thought it was also going through a server since there is a login. Thanks for your thoughts, as they are insightful. Dee _ Test your Star IQ http://club.live.com/red_carpet_reveal.aspx?icid=redcarpet_HMTAGMAR___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Privacy policy of Ekiga
rules. So the comparison with information that is shouted in a stadium is not right here. It's also not a good attitude of the citizens of a country to just accept that everyone can violate your privacy. Citizens should put effort in making good rules for privacy or to protect it. Privacy is a human right of a democracy. Right, wrong, the law and self-preservation are 4 different things with infinite permutations of interpretation. Please consider thinking of your privacy much like your bicycle, you from the Netherlands. You will want laws to punish bicycle thieves AND a strong lock. The law exists because there are people who do not follow it. I expect privacy laws and the corresponding violators to co-exist. I do not see privacy statements helping much. Dee _ Windows Live Hotmail is giving away Zunes. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/ZuneADay/?locale=en-USocid=TXT_TAGLM_Mobile_Zune_V3___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
[Ekiga-list] sndrv_pcm_hw_params: Assertion `err = 0' failed
Is it possible there is a mixup in version numbers? I installed Gnome Slackbuild on a Slackware 12.0 box, and this is clearly identified as 2.0.11. I also tried the Windows version that was 2.0.11. The Windows version was from Ekiga site today, 10 Mar 2008. The bugs listed as fixed in 2.0.11 appear to be still present. For instance, - 1. Linux Slackware 12.0 Ekiga from Gnome Slackbuild. I get assertion errors: sndrv_pcm_hw_params: Assertion `err = 0' failed I am using well known Ensoniq ES1371 chipset/driver. The ALSA mixer controls sound fine, and sound system in general works great otherwise with all other software. It was proposed this assert error might be an ALSA-lib problem, but it looks like Ekiga programmers have been working on assertion errors in Ekiga, fixing (some of?) them in 2.0.11. --- 2. Windows XP version 5.1.2600, different computer. I get the Error installing GTK+ runtime that was supposedly fixed in 2.0.11. --- Looks like a great program, but have had little to no success getting this to actually work yet on Windows, Linux or FreeBSD. The light at the end of the tunnel looks bright though. Dee _ Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging. You IM, we give. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=text_hotmail_join___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] sndrv_pcm_hw_params: Assertion `err = 0' failed
1. Linux Slackware 12.0 Ekiga from Gnome Slackbuild. I get assertion errors: sndrv_pcm_hw_params: Assertion `err = 0' failed I am using well known Ensoniq ES1371 chipset/driver. The ALSA mixer controls sound fine, and sound system in general works great otherwise with all other software. It was proposed this assert error might be an ALSA-lib problem, but it looks like Ekiga programmers have been working on assertion errors in Ekiga, fixing (some of?) them in 2.0.11. This bug is an ALSA bug, not an Ekiga bug, we can not do anything about it. Thanks for response! Any thoughts on how to end up using Ekiga under Linux, given this ALSA bug has apparently been around for a while? Dee _ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail®-get your fix. http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] sndrv_pcm_hw_params: Assertion `err = 0' failed
This bug is an ALSA bug, not an Ekiga bug, we can not do anything about it. Thanks for response! Any thoughts on how to end up using Ekiga under Linux, given this ALSA bug has apparently been around for a while? See this : https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=2601 There are alsa patches. -- _ Damien Sandras I maybe should have mentioned that I already have those patches. Did not fix this unfortunately. Dee _ Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging. You IM, we give. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=text_hotmail_join___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] sndrv_pcm_hw_params: Assertion `err = 0' failed
See this : https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=2601 There are alsa patches. -- _ Damien Sandras I maybe should have mentioned that I already have those patches. Did not fix this unfortunately. You should probably add a comment on their bugtracker in that case. -- _ Damien Sandras Great idea. Please note I submitted this bug report to ALSA: https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=3825 Dee _ Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging. You IM, we give. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=text_hotmail_join___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] sndrv_pcm_hw_params: Assertion `err = 0' failed
I am running UbuntuStudio 7.10 and Ekiga 2.0.11 which is Linux and all works fine. I do have some problems with sound breaking up but it works. Peaceed Edward Dunagin-Dunigan-Dunnigan Excellent! I can see Ekiga is almost working on my Slackware box. It looks to work fine until it crashes due to this assert bug. Could you please offer a few details? For instance, which kernel and are you using ALSA (version?) or some other? What audio hardware? Along these lines I am about to buy a notebook, and would be inclined to go for hardware that others have used Ekiga with success. Dee _ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] sndrv_pcm_hw_params: Assertion `err = 0' failed
I submitted this bug report to ALSA: https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=3825 Excellent, please add a link to : http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=413552 And tell them that we have many many duplicates. Done: 0018447 Btw, are you using pulseaudio ? -- _ Damien Sandras I am pretty sure, yes. I took no specific action to add or remove it. I just installed Linux Slackware 12.0 straight off the DVD without any custom settings. I saw a message about pulseaudio during bootup. Could you imagine removing it might help? If so, I would welcome tips on how. Dominic _ Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] sndrv_pcm_hw_params: Assertion `err = 0' failed
Btw, are you using pulseaudio ? Sorry to but in, when I use Pulseaudio ekiga sound will not work. I kill pulseaudio and ekiga works ok. I do get these errors: Thanks for butting in. More ideas means quicker fixes. I have wondered about this for some time. In connection with Ekiga crashes, Pulseaudio keeps popping up. I don't know what it is, but pretty sure it comes installed by default on Slackware 12.0, which is what I have. I should at least try removing it. So, how do I kill pulseaudio? Dee _ Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! http://biggestloser.msn.com/___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Privacy policy of Ekiga
I assume that everything I read, write, upload or download on the Internet and dates, times and IP addresses are being recorded by several governmental agencies at any given moment. Thus far, I have rarely been proven wrong. I assume everything I do on the Internet could just as well have been shouted at the top of my lungs in a football stadium. It is in this sense that I think privacy statements, while being a profitable marketing gesture for a business, offers no more privacy than no statement at all. Let us say you are going to tell someone over Ekiga about some terrible crime you will commit. Do you really think you will escape police intervention or a prison sentence because of a privacy statement? I guess you could try and file a lawsuit from a prison cell, but would it not be easier to accept my interpretation of VoIP as shouting in a football stadium? Finally, a lawyer could butt in and tell us all these complicated issues and scenarios and pitfalls, and the infinite variances in different countries. Again, would it not be easier to just assume you are shouting in a football stadium and just accept the Internet does not have much mercy for privacy? Dominic _ Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] sndrv_pcm_hw_params: Assertion `err = 0' failed
I should at least try removing it. So, how do I kill pulseaudio? at a terminal do a ps -aux|grep pulseaudio and this will give you the process numberthen do a kill -9 xxx . (explain xxx = process number.) OK, well, the standard kill -9 is easy enough. So how do I prevent it from loading into memory in the first place? Is pulseaudio in the kernel or somewhere else? Dee _ Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging. You IM, we give. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=text_hotmail_join___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
