Re: [Elecraft] O.T.: End of (another) era

2013-07-16 Thread Tom H Childers
BS... 73, Tom Amateur Radio Operator N5GE Licensed since 1976 ARRL Lifetime Member QCWA Lifetime Member On Mon, 15 Jul 2013 11:48:53 -0800, Edward R Cole kl...@acsalaska.net wrote: I'll make a prediction: CW will largely be history for ham radio about 30-years after the date it ceased being

Re: [Elecraft] O.T.: End of (another) era

2013-07-16 Thread Tim Hague
Good morning from this side of the pond. People have been predicting the demise of CW for years but, certainly over here since the removal of the necessity to pass the code test to get a licence the amount of Amateurs learning the code seems to be on the increase. Certainly at the clubs around

Re: [Elecraft] O.T.: End of (another) era

2013-07-16 Thread Richard Fjeld
Well I hope not guys. I bought a keyboard and connected it to the SVGA in the P3 so I could send some perfect code for a change. It felt like I was cheating, but it sure sounds nice. The elements of the characters are perfectly spaced, as are the characters. I can log while the memories

Re: [Elecraft] USB to RS232 cable or adapter

2013-07-16 Thread Fred Smith
While searching for a new hub recently I came across one I had not seen before. I had been using 2 7 port hubs but had ran out of ports on them, yes I have a lot of things on the desk requiring several USB ports. I was looking at the Manhattan web site as I had used them for some time because of

Re: [Elecraft] The KX3 as a shortwave broadcast receiver

2013-07-16 Thread Fred Smith
Guy Please go into the archives and do some reading about connecting the KX3 to an iPad I do this and its GREAT. Just using the free programs out there much less those from the store apps. 73, Fred/N0AZZ K3 Ser # 6730--KX3 # 2573--K2/100 # 6470-KAT100 P3/SVGA--KPA500--KAT500--W2

Re: [Elecraft] O.T.: End of (another) era

2013-07-16 Thread Fred Smith
That is the only way I can do it. A close friend and a 50 yr CW op now operates with a keyboard some of the time. Plus he uses macro's only for 90+% of all his DX CW contacts with the excellent Elecraft reader. 73, Fred/N0AZZ K3 Ser # 6730--KX3 # 2573--K2/100 # 6470-KAT100

Re: [Elecraft] The KX3 as a shortwave broadcast receiver

2013-07-16 Thread gteague
hi fred: yeah, i saw a youtube video of someone connecting to an ipad and i plan to do that--i have all the materials except i might have to get another griffin imic--i haven't used mine in years and have misplaced it. i did find some free ios sdr apps and have installed those. but i still want

Re: [Elecraft] The KX3 as a shortwave broadcast receiver

2013-07-16 Thread Stephen Prior
Guy, I use the iPad and pigtail and it's great. I cannot recommend it too highly. 73 Stephen G4SJP Full of typos from my iPhone On 16 Jul 2013, at 11:04, gteague ac...@gtweb.org wrote: hi fred: yeah, i saw a youtube video of someone connecting to an ipad and i plan to do that--i have

Re: [Elecraft] The KX3 as a shortwave broadcast receiver

2013-07-16 Thread gteague
i sent the guy like 3 emails asking why in the heck he eliminated the battery from the piglet when he discontinued the pigtail. but i went ahead and ordered the piglet and his serial cable as well despite grave misgivings about how i'm going to power the damm thing--what was just posted here is

Re: [Elecraft] The KX3 as a shortwave broadcast receiver

2013-07-16 Thread Fred Smith
Most people when operating portable use a small external 7-10ah battery to power everything the 9v makes little difference and IMHO not needed. Here I have a KX3/Griffin iMike/iPad + 10ah battery = quite a few hours of operation even at 10w with logging/spotting program/Panadapter almost like

Re: [Elecraft] O.T.: End of (another) era

2013-07-16 Thread Dyarnes
Hi All, Ed may be right--it's hard to say. It also depends on what the definition of disappear is, meaning I think there will always be some adventurous souls using CW regardless of where technology takes us. By rights, I would have thought AM would disappear, but it hasn't--not totally.

Re: [Elecraft] O.T.: End of (another) era

2013-07-16 Thread Tim Hague
I operate the RSGB demonstration station at Bletchley Park (GB3RS), I tend to operate mainly on CW, young people are absolutely fascinated by CW. I had one young lad left with me for 2 hours while his family went on the museum tour, all he wanted to know about was morse!. I showed him the WEB

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500: Tuning on 6m

2013-07-16 Thread Ignacy
Jim Brown-10 wrote If I put KAT500 in BYP, the K3 often shows SWR's of 2 to 3. If left in AUTO, the mismatch is apparent in received audio. Without the KAT500, the antenna itself exhibits a 1.3 SWR consistently . Many tuners add SWR even in bypass because the path through is not 50

Re: [Elecraft] The KX3 as a shortwave broadcast receiver

2013-07-16 Thread Jim Brown
On 7/15/2013 6:41 PM, gteague wrote: great review! i read most every review and article you post. Those looking for a broadcast receiver would do well to look at the Tecsun product line, imported by the same folks who import Kaito. There are a dozen or so models ranging in cost from about

[Elecraft] FS: Elecraft KXPD3 key

2013-07-16 Thread W0FK
KXPD3 key for the Elecraft KX3. As new, has been upgraded with the new board and springs (light springs installed, firm and medium springs, and original board, included). $110 shipped in the US. Please contac t me off the list. Lou, W0FK. - St. Louis, MO K3 #'s 7463 and 2513, P3 #620, KX1

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500: Tuning on 6m

2013-07-16 Thread Jim Brown
On 7/16/2013 7:18 AM, Ignacy wrote: Many tuners add SWR even in bypass because the path through is not 50 Ohm. Actually, the fundamental cause is that those tuners use the chassis as the signal return, which adds inductance to the path. The switching relays also add inductance. A proper path

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 VFO B Alternate Display ?

2013-07-16 Thread Rich Heineck
Phil, That is correct. The battery '+' and external supply '+' are connected together. The voltage at the battery's negative terminal is measured and subtracted from the voltage at the '+' side. So with no batteries installed, 0V would be read at the batt '-' side. And when no external

Re: [Elecraft] O.T.: End of (another) era

2013-07-16 Thread EricJ
I downloaded a Morse keyboard for my Galaxy Android phone. It uses the piano style (side by side) paddle method. I like it because I don't have to stare at the keyboard when I send. It's a little weird getting used to having to tap a space key between words, but it works. A little slow--maybe

Re: [Elecraft] The KX3 as a shortwave broadcast receiver

2013-07-16 Thread Mike Morrow
Jim wrote: Those looking for a broadcast receiver would do well to look at the Tecsun product line... About half of them are DSP radios using a Silicon Labs chip, and yield excellent performance on both AM and FM. Most of them cover LW (below the AM broadcast band), all of them cover

Re: [Elecraft] O.T.: End of (another) era

2013-07-16 Thread Jim Lowman
Hi Dave, On 7/16/2013 6:42 AM, Dyarnes wrote: Hi All, But CW is a conundrum. It takes skill! That is what seems to be disappearing from ham radio! Look at the decline in the ability of the average ham to build his/her own gear, let alone repair it! Admittedly, the radios we buy these

Re: [Elecraft] The KX3 as a shortwave broadcast receiver

2013-07-16 Thread Jim Lowman
I'd agree with you about the Tecsun radios, Jim. I bought a PL-660 last year, before Christmas. The only gripes that I have are: a) the cheap Chinese batteries that came with it had a short life. I topped off the charge after installing the batteries, and the next time that I tried to use

Re: [Elecraft] O.T.: End of (another) era

2013-07-16 Thread Sandy Blaize
What I am curious about is: Will they stop the use of AM on the MW Broadcast band, the private/commercial VHF and UHF aircraft band, (that is picking the primary users of AM) and the amateur bands? Also will they decide that the use of CW will become illegal on the amateur bands, FM services

Re: [Elecraft] O.T.: End of (another) era

2013-07-16 Thread Walter Underwood
The original poster was not suggesting that they would get rid of it. He was suggesting that it would die out on its own. wunder K6WRU On Jul 16, 2013, at 11:33 AM, Sandy Blaize wrote: What I am curious about is: Will they stop the use of AM on the MW Broadcast band, the private/commercial

Re: [Elecraft] O.T.: End of (another) era

2013-07-16 Thread Edward R Cole
I don't know how long this thread will be tolerated, but I will try to add a few comments (mainly to Dyarnes w7...@cox.net): Definition of ending or disappearing is subjective, at best. Sure there are a few AM enthusiasts out there but one would not really consider AM as a thriving active

Re: [Elecraft] O.T.: End of (another) era

2013-07-16 Thread Mike Morrow
A while back some Japanese company was seriously contemplating using CW as an input method for texting on cellphones! It would only require two or three keys! Interesting concept, but I guess it didn't fly--at least not now. I think you mean this:

[Elecraft] OT: AM mode

2013-07-16 Thread Ken G Kopp
VHF/UHF aircraft radio has always been AM, and is likely / certain continue to be. Why? It's used world wide and discussions about changing it to FM have continued for years. The conclusion seems to be that there is simply too much usage worldwide and little reason to make the change. The cost

Re: [Elecraft] O.T.: End of (another) era

2013-07-16 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
On 7/16/2013 12:18 PM, Edward R Cole wrote: The objection to digital is to its not being a real-time interactive experience, snip Says who? I've been going through storage today, and I found my original license, issued in 1977. I also found a picture of my shack from around 1979 with my

Re: [Elecraft] OT: AM mode

2013-07-16 Thread Stewart
The rational is that if two stations transmit over each other on AM they can both be heard either as separate signals or as a beat note. Whereas, with FM due to the capture effect only the stronger station would be heard. 73 Stewart G3RXQ ex PPL On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 19:30:36 +, Ken G Kopp

Re: [Elecraft] OT: AM mode

2013-07-16 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2013 16 Jul 14:31 -0500, Ken G Kopp wrote: VHF/UHF aircraft radio has always been AM, and is likely / certain continue to be. Why? It's used world wide and discussions about changing it to FM have continued for years. The conclusion seems to be that there is simply too much usage

Re: [Elecraft] O.T.: End of (another) era

2013-07-16 Thread Vic K2VCO
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[Elecraft] Relay boards for remote control?

2013-07-16 Thread Tom
Hi Can anyone tell me what would be the most popular rs232 (or USB) relay board for use in computer control of a k3 setup? I use the canakit 4 relay USB board. Are there others? Thanks Sent from my iPhone __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

[Elecraft] K1 problem solved

2013-07-16 Thread David L DuPuy
Don, My K1 is working perfectly now. I discovered that by tightening down the front panel screw (under the tuning knob) I had pulled the FP printed circuit board away from the panel, and that meant the P1 and J1 connectors weren't parallel. After reinstalling the screw loosely, then pushing the

Re: [Elecraft] Relay boards for remote control?

2013-07-16 Thread iain macdonnell - N6ML
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Tom tom...@videotron.ca wrote: Can anyone tell me what would be the most popular rs232 (or USB) relay board for use in computer control of a k3 setup? I use the canakit 4 relay USB board. Are there others? I've not tried these myself, but bookmarked them a

Re: [Elecraft] OT: AM mode

2013-07-16 Thread Mark Petiford
Re: ...capture effect.  As AM does not have it, an air controller can tell when two aircraft transmit at once, much like on HF SSB for us. Extremely important to controllers and pilots.  The resulting hetrodyne is very distinctive. Mark KE6BB From: Nate

Re: [Elecraft] O.T.: End of (another) era

2013-07-16 Thread Phil Kane
On 7/16/2013 11:33 AM, Sandy Blaize wrote: Considering the non radio and non engineering political/legal types who are taking over as FCC Commissioners, Taking over? They've been there for many decades. The last engineer commissioner was George Sterling (of blessed memory) who had headed up

[Elecraft] OT: Aircraft radio FM

2013-07-16 Thread Ken G Kopp
I suppose the argument about no heterodyne with FM can be made, BUT ... AM aircraft radio has been around since the end of spark and steadily growing world-wide since that time. It was solidly in place -long- before FM was a gleam in Armstrong's eye. It remains that the staggering cost of

Re: [Elecraft] K1 problem solved

2013-07-16 Thread Mike Morrow
David wrote: ...I discovered that by tightening down the front panel screw (under the tuning knob) I had pulled the FP printed circuit board away from the panel, and that meant the P1 and J1 connectors weren't parallel. That does not seem normal at all. My K1 front panel does not flex as

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Aircraft radio FM

2013-07-16 Thread Sandy Blaize
NO! I wondered about that for YEARS, even when I was working in avionics! The REAL reason for using AM instead of FM is the FM capture effect. A slightly stronger signal on the channel will takeover the channel. You can't hear weaker signals thru it like AM. This was the real reason for

[Elecraft] Way OT: It's an age thing, maybe

2013-07-16 Thread Ken G Kopp
It all might depend on the age of the observer ... Much like the aircraft restoration mechanic at the Pima Air Museum when I asked about a manual for an electric prop-pitch motor. He was adamant that there was -never- such a thing, and wasn't to be convinced until I walked him over to a

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Aircraft radio FM

2013-07-16 Thread Dale Putnam
And... what would the improvement be for FM over AM? What would it be for ?? Other than making every aircraft change over... (follow the money) and the side by side systems in each control point... what would improve? Range?... not really... quality of audio? not really.. what then? someone's

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Aircraft radio FM

2013-07-16 Thread Mike Morrow
Ken wrote: AM aircraft radio has been around since the end of spark and steadily growing world-wide since that time. It was solidly in place -long- before FM was a gleam in Armstrong's eye. Er...I'm not sure how that supports an argument that transition to FM was *at any point and time*

Re: [Elecraft] K1 problem solved

2013-07-16 Thread Don Wilhelm
David, Check the number of lockwashers you used under the Front Panel standoffs against the number specified in the manual. The ones used between the board and the standoff are really spacers (adding to the standoff dimension) and are critical to keeping everything in alignment. I would

[Elecraft] FS/Trade HP 8921A+83236B

2013-07-16 Thread Niel Skousen
I have a nice HP 8921A service monitor with TrackGen, and all options including an 83236B cell phone test adapter. Works great, but I'm needing a smaller lighter box like the CMS-51 or -54, or an IFR 1200S. I end up doing most of my stuff from a car or in the field, as I do some consulting

Re: [Elecraft] K1 problem solved

2013-07-16 Thread Mike Morrow
I wrote: My K1 front panel does not flex as the flat-head front panel mounting screw is tightened, however much I try. That should have been My K1 front panel *PCB* does not flex... 73, Mike / KK5F __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Aircraft radio FM

2013-07-16 Thread Rich
Am I the only one wondering what has any of this got to do with Elecraft?? Can the moderators put an end to all of these OT posts and return it to a reflector for its purpose please?? Yes I know where the delete button is but the threads get longer and longer. Nothing personal Mike, just

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Aircraft radio FM

2013-07-16 Thread Phil Kane
On 7/16/2013 2:27 PM, Sandy Blaize wrote: I think Aeronautical AM will be around for many more years IF some dumb ass non engineer decides AM is Obsolete and screws things up. Seeing the present bright political appointees nothing would surprise me! It would have to come from the ICAO

Re: [Elecraft] Relay boards for remote control?

2013-07-16 Thread William Evans
I have used the denkovi 16 relay set and the 8 relay set with ethernet access to design and build a controller which automatically selects either my normal antenna for each band or an alternate antenna for that band. I use the K3's BCD outputs to determine the band, and a arduino programmed to

Re: [Elecraft] Relay boards for remote control?

2013-07-16 Thread Tom
Hi, I wondering about the USB versions. They have a caution in the docs about a power cycle, which causes the relays to switch several times during power up of the computer. This could cause some undesirable effects I would think. The serial and Ethernet do not seem to be affected. And, what is

Re: [Elecraft] K3 5143 ERR TXG on 10m 6m?

2013-07-16 Thread ct1bxt
Hello, Problem solved. New RD06HVF1 instead of RD06HHF1 and the output is stable. Regards Rodrigo ct1bxt -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-5143-ERR-TXG-on-10m-6m-tp7576424p7576816.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

[Elecraft] . Re: O.T.: End of (another) era

2013-07-16 Thread Frank Palecek
Google iditdahtext and check out the you tube video. This morse code to text app for the iPhone has been around for a few years. It is a neat app though I don't use it Frank KC2TKD __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

[Elecraft] Fw:

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 VFO B Alternate Display ?

2013-07-16 Thread Jeff Herr
Hey Rich! got a schematic snippet to include? -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Rich Heineck Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 8:09 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 VFO B Alternate

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Aircraft radio FM

2013-07-16 Thread Sandy Blaize
Yes I read all about RCA screwing Edwin Armstrong on wideband FM. David Sarnoff had connections with the FCC to eliminate the old FM band (pre war) and have the 88-108 region allotted which made all of Armstrong's equipment obsolete. Also RCA claims to have invented a new wideband FM system

[Elecraft] K3 transmitting in diversity overloads the sub-receiver

2013-07-16 Thread Stan AE7UT
I'm using a K3 with a sub-receiver, a KPA500, KAT500, dipole and vertical antenna. I was noticing a clicking noise while transmitting in dual receive and thought it was an antenna switch protecting the sub-receiver. As most of you know (I didn't) this is just the sub-receiver overload protection

Re: [Elecraft] K3 transmitting in diversity overloads the sub-receiver

2013-07-16 Thread Mike K2MK
Hi Stan, This subject comes up from time to time on the reflector. Here's a link to a previous thread: http://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@mailman.qth.net/msg103777.html Here's a link to the Array Solutions RF Limiter mentioned: http://www.arraysolutions.com/Products/as_rxfep.htm 73, Mike K2MK

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 VFO B Alternate Display ?

2013-07-16 Thread Lyle Johnson
Jeff, The complete KX3 schematic set, including the KXBC3, is on the Elecraft web site. 73, Lyle KK7P Hey Rich! got a schematic snippet to include? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft

[Elecraft] OT: no CCRs and no HOA

2013-07-16 Thread Edward R Cole
I left all that behind in 1979 when I moved north. Better luck finding such property here in Alaska. I moved from LA to a town of 75 at the end of a 16-mile dead-end gravel road. I harvested 17,000 board feet of FREE timber for my self-built two-story log house (USFS land). Firewood was just

Re: [Elecraft] FS: Elecraft KXPD3 key

2013-07-16 Thread W0FK
KXPD3 has been sold. - St. Louis, MO K3 #'s 7463 and 2513, P3 #620, KX1 #1517, KX3 #0036 -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/FS-Elecraft-KXPD3-key-tp7576784p7576826.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Elecraft] Relay boards for remote control?

2013-07-16 Thread Hop - AC8NS
There are others. I use a SERDO8R purchased from EasyDAQ.com. It has an RS232 interface and eight DPDT relays on a PC104 stackable profile. Current price is $81, which I think is a bit much, but it is a well-constructed board and is supported by National Instruments LabVIEW drivers (which I why