Re: [Elecraft] dB Changes, Loudness, and Signal to Noise Ratio

2009-12-15 Thread Kok Chen
On Dec 15, 2009, at 9:52 AM, Jim Brown wrote: ...we are working on the signal to noise ratio, NOT LOUDNESS. It's apples and oranges! The only thing in common is that we're using a log ratio to describe it. I couldn't agree more with Jim on this one. In our business, we are trying to

Re: [Elecraft] USB/LSB with 5MHz VFO

2009-12-03 Thread Kok Chen
On Dec 3, 2009, at 9:25 AM, Ralph Parker wrote: For all you young whipper-snappers with two letter calls who don't believe it: 9 Mc. SSB mixed +/- with a 5 Mc. VFO did indeed result in opposite sidebands. I was there. No a 9 MHz IF will not swap sidebands. But, as N1AL has mentioned, a 5

Re: [Elecraft] K3 SWR Accuracy - reprise

2009-11-04 Thread Kok Chen
On Nov 4, 2009, at 4:41 PM, Steve Ellington wrote: 4. Example: A full wave dipole center fed with 50 ohm coax. SWR reads infinite at the antenna but with 1/4 wavelenth of coax, SWR reads low! Nope -- the *impedance* at the end of a 1/4 wave transmission line when it is looking at a very

Re: [Elecraft] K3 SWR Accuracy - reprise

2009-11-04 Thread Kok Chen
On Nov 4, 2009, at 5:05 PM, Steve Ellington wrote: It's called a transmission line transformer and is very common. Yes, we all know about them. Just walk 180 degrees on a constant SWR circle on the Smith Chart, with the transmission line impedance at the center of the Smith Chart (or use

Re: [Elecraft] [elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 3.41...

2009-10-07 Thread Kok Chen
On Oct 7, 2009, at 10/76:50 AM, Radio Amateur N5GE wrote: You're experiencing why I stopped using Apple Computers and developing software for them in 1985. They are good computers but Apple does not make it easy for developers to create software for their computers (very expensive

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Operator Error

2009-09-02 Thread Kok Chen
On Sep 2, 2009, at 9/29:26 AM, Kjeld Holm wrote: Just now I noticed that for the last second or so of the transmission it seems like I have full output also on 80 meters. BUT it is not a question of warming up as the full output is seen only for the last second whether I am

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: LP Pan sound card

2009-07-28 Thread Kok Chen
On Jul 28, 2009, at 12:02 PM, Iain MacDonnell - N6ML wrote: If the Mac is one of the reasonably recent Core (2) Duo models, it should be able to handle the EMU-0202 at full b/w... Unless E-MU has updated their Mac OS X drivers recently, you can use the E-MU 0202 and 0404 only up to 96k

Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: LP Pan sound card

2009-07-28 Thread Kok Chen
On Jul 28, 2009, at 12:14 PM, Kok Chen wrote: Unless E-MU has updated their Mac OS X drivers recently, you can use the E-MU 0202 and 0404 only up to 96k samples/sec with a Mac My mistake. Iain has informed me that the original poster has intended to use Bootcamp. In that case, the E-MU

Re: [Elecraft] Blue Displays and Visual Acuity

2009-06-17 Thread Kok Chen
In the human fovea (where all the resolving mechanism is), there are fewer S-cones (blue sensitivity) than there are M-cones (green) and L- cones (red). Quoting Malacara (Color Vision and Colorimetry:Theory and Applications, ISBN 0-8194-4228-3): [the Blue S-cones] do not contribute to

Re: [Elecraft] OT - SteppIR Vertical and Elecraft Products

2009-05-16 Thread Kok Chen
On May 16, 2009, at 11:26 AM, Craig Smith wrote: I think you have arrived at a good understanding of the benefits/ limitations of both the StepIR and the remote tuner approaches. I use the remote tuner approach, but would think that the StepIR should give similar results. Bear in mind

Re: [Elecraft] 43' Vertical and the K2 tuner

2009-03-16 Thread Kok Chen
On Mar 16, 2009, at 3/161:13 AM, David Woolley (E.L) wrote: Before doing that, please consider not using JPEG for the images. This sort of image is blurred by JPEG encoding and normally compresses poorly. Before making a statement like that, you might want to run the actual

Re: [Elecraft] 43' Vertical and the K2 tuner

2009-03-15 Thread Kok Chen
I don't have the L and C values for the K2 tuner, but if you want to see what impedances can be transformed from 50 ohms using the KAT100, you can take a look at these images: http://homepage.mac.com/chen/Technical/Tuner/T3580.jpg http://homepage.mac.com/chen/Technical/Tuner/T14080.jpg

Re: [Elecraft] 43' Vertical and the K2 tuner

2009-03-15 Thread Kok Chen
On Mar 15, 2009, at 11:35 AM, Kok Chen wrote: The blue dots are for transceiver : ( shunt C : series R ) : antenna. Oops, I meant transceiver : ( shunt C : series L ) : antenna. 73 Chen, W7AY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http

Re: [Elecraft] K3 + LP Pan + Microkeyer II

2009-03-05 Thread Kok Chen
On Mar 5, 2009, at 3/55:26 AM, Igor Sokolov wrote: Bob, does it mean that the USB sound card built into MicrokeyerII cannot be utilized by LP-PAN? Why? Not that you cannot use just any garden variety sound cards, but there are at least two reasons to use a better sound card with an

Re: [Elecraft] K3 choppy CW

2009-02-26 Thread Kok Chen
On Feb 26, 2009, at 7:01 AM, Brian Alsop wrote: I think it is a bit ironic that for RTTY, external TNC's have become passe in favor of direct computer decode/encode. Just a property of how computers handle audio. USB Sound Cards go through what are called Isochronous Transfer of USB.

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta firmware rev. 2.82

2009-02-15 Thread Kok Chen
On Feb 15, 2009, at 2/158:58 AM, Guy Olinger, K2AV wrote: Taking the DATA A readings below at face value, the more than 2 db bump around 1000 Hz is rather startling. I'm not sure what could cause that, but at least to me that seems to be screaming for an explanation. There's an

Re: [Elecraft] Terminal for Mac users

2009-02-11 Thread Kok Chen
If you really need a terminal emulator and can't whip one up quickly, you can try the one that is built into AVR Tools: http://homepage.mac.com/chen/w7ay/AVR%20Tools/index.html Use the download tab at the top of the page. Once launched, just select New Session from the file menu, then tab

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Birdies: firmware-based fix in progress

2009-02-10 Thread Kok Chen
On Feb 10, 2009, at 2/109:09 AM, wayne burdick wrote: While it is possible to attenuate some spurious responses by moving coax cables around, there is a firmware-based approach that we're working on. The general idea is to shift the 1st LO and BFO a small amount, simultaneously, when the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 LINE Out mixes KRX3 and main output?

2009-01-31 Thread Kok Chen
On Jan 31, 2009, at 9:16 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: For the device in question, Griffin iMic, this doesn't seem to be the case. It does not separate enumerations for independently setting left and right input gain. It does support stereo input, just not two mic/line gain controls. I

Re: [Elecraft] AGC Setting for PSK-31

2009-01-22 Thread Kok Chen
On Jan 22, 2009, at 10:16 AM, Simon (HB9DRV) wrote: A good soundcard will not suffer from intermod - just like a good radio. Not just with intermod, but many mediocre sound cards also suffer from bad second harmonic distortion that could be more troublesome than IMD. I have measured poor

Re: [Elecraft] K3 pwr out on digimodes

2009-01-17 Thread Kok Chen
On Jan 17, 2009, at 1/173:00 AM, hb9ari wrote: I can imagine that digimodes software generate ± complex audio signals, then we can adjust this audio level to allow TX chain, including PA, to work in a linear zone. Out of the common HF digital modes, I believe that BPSK31 and

Re: [Elecraft] Obscure RTTY bug?

2008-12-31 Thread Kok Chen
On Dec 31, 2008, at 2:54 PM, dalspa...@comcast.net wrote: I am experiencing the same issue and have been for a while. It occurs for me without being in the text mode. Lyle says he is aware of it and is working on a solution. I think it has gotten worse in recent releases. I tried this

Re: [Elecraft] Obscure RTTY bug?

2008-12-31 Thread Kok Chen
The odd thing is that the glitches in Iain's recording appear to occur a cycle or two before a frequency shift. It almost appears to be due to an improperly windowed FIR filter, but it could be caused by anything else... If you have an audio editing program, you can see the envelope

Re: [Elecraft] K3 ADAT ADT-200A by HB9CBU

2008-12-04 Thread Kok Chen
On Dec 4, 2008, at 1:06 PM, Bill Tippett wrote: This looks like a much better system than Flex's QSD. For single signal use, I agree completely Bill. By the time you've matched the sampling rate of a direct SDR to a signal with 500 Hz bandwidth, you have adequate dynamic range. (And not

RE: [Elecraft] K3 ADAT ADT-200A by HB9CBU

2008-12-01 Thread Kok Chen
On Monday, December 01, 2008, at 01:16PM, Bill W4ZV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...which is why the hybrid approach of a narrow roofing filter before the ADC works so well in Orion and the K3. Bill is correct. Think of this this way: the clipping level of a codec does not change, but the

Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3: listening to both rcvrs - Reduced receiver noise floor

2008-11-17 Thread Kok Chen
On Nov 17, 2008, at 10:06 AM, Tayloe Dan-P26412 wrote: Band noise from one receiver at any instant in time will look exactly like band noise from the second receiver. That is true if the two receivers are tuned to the same passband and you are using an identical antenna for the two

Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3: listening to both rcvrs - Reduced receiver noise floor

2008-11-17 Thread Kok Chen
On Nov 17, 2008, at 1:01 PM, Tayloe Dan-P26412 wrote: How can it hurt the SNR? Because in split operation, you are adding the noise from two different bandpasses, yet you are only hearing the signal from the original single receiver. Let receiver (1) hear s(t) + n1(t) and receiver (2)

Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3: listening to both rcvrs - Reduced receiver noise floor

2008-11-17 Thread Kok Chen
On Nov 17, 2008, at 3:01 PM, Kok Chen wrote: Prob( (s+n1+n2)^2 ) = Prob(s^2 + n1^2 + n2^2 + n1.n2 + s.n1 + s.n2). If s, n1 and n2 are uncorrelated, then Prob(n1.n2) = Prob(s.n1) = Prob(s.n2) = 0. Whoops, that should be Prob( (s+n1+n2)^2 ) = Prob(s^2 + n1^2 + n2^2 + 2.n1.n2 + 2.s.n1

Re: [Elecraft] K3: listening to both rcvrs

2008-11-16 Thread Kok Chen
On Nov 16, 2008, at 1:52 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Assuming equal volume settings and equal bandwidths in the two receivers, the S/N will degrade by 6 dB (twice the noise voltage). Unless the noise is correlated, the probability density function from summing two random variables causes

Re: [Elecraft] Sound card interface

2008-10-26 Thread Kok Chen
On Oct 26, 2008, at 10/268:54 AM, Benson wrote: I hope to order a K3 next month and need to sell some equipment first. Can I sell the Tigertronics SignaLink USB if I intend to connect the K3 directly to the computer sound card? Or is an intermediate interface desirable? If you are

Re: [Elecraft] k3 : no CAT mode change (was Split Operation)

2008-10-07 Thread Kok Chen
On Oct 7, 2008, at 12:18 PM, Julian, G4ILO wrote: David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: Thanks Julian, what the length of the delay? 200ms. For what its worth, I just wrote a quick test. Environment K3 FW 2.23 Computer: PowerMac 2x2.3 GHz, Mac OS X 10.5.3 Serial Port: Keyspan

Re: [Elecraft] K3 PSK31 with Digipan

2008-09-19 Thread Kok Chen
On Sep 19, 2008, at 2:32 PM, Bob Cunnings wrote: Yes transmit is restricted - to the 2.7 (or 2.8) kHz filter. Hence the request to allow transmit using the 6 KHz filter, at least to same extent as receive (up to 4KHz currently). We all agree that you can receive in a wide passband (even as

Re: [Elecraft] K3 dbV in 2.38

2008-09-16 Thread Kok Chen
On Sep 16, 2008, at 5:07 PM, Augie Hansen wrote: Jim Brown wrote: ... Hold on a minute. We cannot sit over in our little corner and pretend that the rest of the world does not exist. That's how we got into trouble with the KIO3. dBV is a voltage measure with a reference of 1V RMS. It's an

Re: [Elecraft] K3 dbV in 2.38

2008-09-16 Thread Kok Chen
On Sep 16, 2008, at 5:38 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: I suppose when Wayne has time, he can modify the display driver to light two fewer segments so the V is v. That is probably no good either. dBv is the deprecated version of dBu. It was changed from dBv to dBu because it was too easy to

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