Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 RX audio on voice modes oh no here we go again

2009-04-28 Thread pd0psb
For whose's interested: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colors_of_noise What about: TECH MD NSE CHR (rx noise character) WHT (white) // PNK (pink) ? ;-) 73' Paul PD0PSB -- View this message in context:

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 RX audio on voice modes oh no here we go again

2009-04-28 Thread Geoffrey Downs
Thank you Paul - the Wiki entry was new to me and very interesting. It demonstrated well to a non-expert such as myself the less aggressive nature of pink noise compared with white. The red/brown noise sounded even better to my ears but maybe its spectrum is not as suitable for voice

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 RX audio on voice modes oh no here we go again

2009-04-28 Thread pd0psb
Geoff, Pink tends to sound most flat to our ears. That's why it's widely used to calibrate audio equipment. Red/brown may sound nice as well, but are relatively dark Funny thing about white is that it keeps that agressive nature in a restricted bandwidth, because the high flank will grab the

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 RX audio on voice modes oh no here we go again

2009-04-28 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
It's important to note that the spectrum of the noise each of us hears is *not* the spectrum presented by the source. Everything we hear is filtered by our ears. In the past youngster's ears were considered rather 'flat' from perhaps 20 Hz up to above 16 kHz. That changes as we get older and

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 RX audio on voice modes oh no here we go again

2009-04-28 Thread pd0psb
All true Ron! Fact remains that by law of physics / psycho-acoustics pink is perceived by average human ears as flat. Therfore (I think) it would be nice to start off with a flat noise character, and adjust that per individual by the RX EQ. You will also notice that the range of the EQ by ear

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 RX audio on voice modes oh no here we go again

2009-04-28 Thread pd0psb
Also true Steve! The K3 is the most silent I've ever experienced. Pull the antenna out and you're virtually left with nothing. That's why I think the hiss complaints are caused by its noise character... 73' Paul PD0PSB One thing I look for is audio stage hiss. Disconnect the antenna, turn

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 RX audio on voice modes oh no here we go again

2009-04-28 Thread pd0psb
BTW gentlemen, shall we put the lid on? We've been occupying quite some (pink) bandwidth! Thanks for the discussion! Paul PD0PSB Also true Steve! The K3 is the most silent I've ever experienced. Pull the antenna out and you're virtually left with nothing. That's why I think the hiss

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 RX audio on voice modes oh no here we go again

2009-04-25 Thread Barry N1EU
pd0psb wrote: -K3 in pink mode sounds round,smooth and balanced out. RX EQ now works correctly and is able to really shape the sound to many different flavours. I've been playing with the K3 RX EQ and watching the audio passband response on a spectrum analyzer. It's not very

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 RX audio on voice modes oh no here we go again

2009-04-25 Thread Barry N1EU
pd0psb wrote: -K3 in pink mode sounds round,smooth and balanced out. RX EQ now works correctly and is able to really shape the sound to many different flavours. I've been playing and listening some more. I have to admit to at first being somewhat dismissive of Paul's suggestions, but

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 RX audio on voice modes oh no here we go again

2009-04-25 Thread pd0psb
Thanks Barry! It's indeed possible to approach the -3db/oct roll of with the RX EQ, but it's not very accurate.(I tried this as well) In the audioworld it is very uncommon the make such drastic correction with EQ to make a source sound flat To have an accurate straight slope of -3db/oct (or a

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 RX audio on voice modes oh no here we go again

2009-04-25 Thread pd0psb
What about: TECH MD NSE CHR (rx noise character) WHT (white) // PNK (pink) ? ;-) 73' Paul PD0PSB -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-RX-audio-on-voice-modes-%3Coh-no-here-we-go-again%3E-tp2699273p2709451.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 RX audio on voice modes oh no here we go again

2009-04-25 Thread pd0psb
IMD LPF and countersloping combined will make K3 the best sounding radio up to now, trust me. Let's make music ;-) 73' Paul PD0PSB You're right, Paul -- I skimmed right past the pink idea (oops) and interpreted the poster's concern as a more common one that customers have brought up,