--- Stephen W. Kercel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dave:
From the 1 callsign, I expect that you are located in New England. If so,
you're on the ragged edge of the normal coverage of WWVB. It is likely that
the location is giving you as much trouble as the metal siding.
WWVB is by no means
Bob,
The cheapest GPS receiver I ever bought costs $100 compared to the $25
for the WWV clock. That was a couple of years ago, and the cost of both
has come down. That's the why.
Chas
At 12:34 AM 1/9/2005, Robert Rennard wrote:
Why not just use a cheap GPS receiver instead of a WWVB
All,
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Atomic Clocks and Aluminum Siding
Anybody else on this reflector ever been to the WWV transmitter site?
I
A GPS receiver inside an aluminum-sided house may also have some
trouble. Mine, which has no external antenna, has trouble picking up
satellites in my (brick-sided) house and in my (metal-sided) car, other
than on the dashboard near the windshield. If I ever get lost in my
basement, the GPS
pricey,
but I am still tempted!
Dan Allen
KB4ZVM
K2 S/N 1757
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From: Jim Wiley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Robert Rennard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 12:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Atomic Clocks
To bad they don't make one that you can interface your existing GPS
receiver to.
Stan Rife
W5EWA
Houston, TX
K2 S/N 4216
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From: Dan Allen
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Atomic Clocks and Aluminum Siding
I was wanting a Nixie
happy to have someone to
talk to.
Doug
W6JD
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Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Atomic Clocks and Aluminum Siding
In a message dated 1/8/05 11:04:16 PM Eastern Standard
Charles wrote:
The cheapest GPS receiver I ever bought costs $100 compared to the $25
for the WWV clock. That was a couple of years ago, and the cost of both
has come down. That's the why.
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I thought atomic clocks were desired for their gee whiz
For some digital modes, you have to know the time to the second or close to it,
as some digital sequences are 15 or 30 seconds long. Even for typical SHF
terrestrial work, the common adage is You call on the odd, I call on the
even. There are 60 and 30 second sequences on that too I believe.
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From: Ron D'Eau Claire
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 2:34 PM
To: 'Elecraft Reflector'
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Atomic Clocks and Aluminum Siding
I thought atomic clocks were desired for their gee whiz interest, not
because someone usually needs to know what time
Ron:
Probably, unless one is using some very exotic mode such as Coherent CW,
millisecond synchronization is not actually required for ham operations.
However, there are some fairly routine operations in which sub-second
resolution is a necessity and not a luxury. These include the
Yep. Several ops mentioned modes I don't use G.
I often use the propagation beacons at 20 meters and down, but my PC clock
is synched to NIS through the internet connection, so it's always dead on
for that purpose.
Is it okay if I buy an atomic clock some day for the 'Gee Whiz' factor G?
Ron
NO G
Stan Rife
W5EWA
Houston, TX
K2 S/N 4216
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron D'Eau Claire
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 4:23 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Atomic Clocks and Aluminum Siding
Yep
And, if anyone wants, I will send them a picture I took of two
identical model atomic clocks, both showing that they are locked
and showing different times (nothing doctored in the picture, time
zones the same, etc.).
Hmmm...I wonder why they call them Atomic Clocks? Other than being
made
Almost everything in life can be overdone, except for K2 Mojo. I have
GPS clocks at work that keep the PC's all agreeing with each other. But
I did want a Gee-Whiz factor for the shack. At Dayton last year I bought
my very first MFJ product, a Model 121 clock. This is a large Dual LCD
readout
Ron, AC7AC wrote:
That means my $6 Radio Shack digital clock that I chose because it was
on sale and provides a 24-hour time format is perfect. It stays accurate
to within one or two seconds a month.
==
I guess I'm more of a perfectionist than Ron. After three or four
battery-operated
Anybody else on this reflector ever been to the WWV transmitter site? I was
there circa 1992.
I live two miles from WWV. I get accurate time on my atomic clock, my
telephone, my stereo, my TV...
--
73, Jay K0GU DN70mq
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ya, ya
as an old Cdn AF Nav plus an astro-physicist, I'll stick with WWV!
Ron VA6RL
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From: Fred Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Atomic Clocks and Aluminum
At 12:34 PM -0800 1/9/05, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
I thought atomic clocks were desired for their gee whiz interest, not
because someone usually needs to know what time it is to the nearest
millisecond.
I'm serious about the value of the gee whiz factor as in, Gee whiz! Look
at that!
After
Atomic Clocks are great additions to the shack. But how, pray tell,
does one get them to work inside a house with aluminum siding when you
can't put it next to a window? I believe WWVB is on 80KHz, which is
pretty low. Can one couple them to an antenna?
thanks,
dave belsley, w1euy
In a message dated 1/8/05 11:04:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
I believe WWVB is on 80KHz,
60 kHz.
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Anybody else on this reflector ever been to the WWV transmitter site? I was
there circa 1992.
73 de Jim, N2EY
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On 1/8/05 9:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anybody else on this reflector ever been to the WWV transmitter site? I was
there circa 1992.
My daughter is a student at Colorado State Univ. in Fort Collins. Once in a
while when on trips to the school from Denver I make side
Dave:
From the 1 callsign, I expect that you are located in New England. If so,
you're on the ragged edge of the normal coverage of WWVB. It is likely that
the location is giving you as much trouble as the metal siding.
Despite my 4 callsign, I am in New England (I live in Maine), and
: [Elecraft] Atomic Clocks and Aluminum Siding
Atomic Clocks are great additions to the shack. But how, pray tell,
does one get them to work inside a house with aluminum siding when you
can't put it next to a window? I believe WWVB is on 80KHz, which is
pretty low. Can one couple them
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