Re: [Elecraft] Digital Mode Interface for the KX3 for WSJT modes

2012-07-16 Thread Jim Brown
On 7/15/2012 12:15 AM, Edward R. Cole wrote: I rarely listen to the audio of digital signals since my brain cannot decode them, anyway. With a 3.5mm phone plug inserted the internal speaker is disconnected so I suppose you are using either headphones or ext. speaker. No need to hear the

Re: [Elecraft] Digital Mode Interface for the KX3 for WSJT modes

2012-07-16 Thread Lance Collister, W7GJ
Thanks for all the comments and suggestions. I will continue to explore the possibility of an ultra-compact solution by just breaking out cables from a DB9 connector. However, in the interest of time, my first interface will use the RIGblaster Plug Play unit from West Mountain Radio. This

Re: [Elecraft] Digital Mode Interface for the KX3 for WSJT modes

2012-07-15 Thread Edward R. Cole
Joe, W4TV, wrote: The difficulty in dealing with a computer interface for the KX3 is the last of a fixed level audio output and the need to share audio with the operator headphones/speaker. Levels for computer decoding and operator comfort are not always the same G which means a buffer/splitter

Re: [Elecraft] Digital Mode Interface for the KX3 for WSJT modes

2012-07-13 Thread Jim Brown
On 7/12/2012 5:50 PM, Edward R. Cole wrote: I deduced the surest way to avoid audio problems was by total isolation of computer ground and radio ground. East to accomplish using isolation transformers for audio and opto-isolators for dc controls. Actually it is NOT the surest way. Simple

Re: [Elecraft] Digital Mode Interface for the KX3 for WSJT modes

2012-07-13 Thread Jim Brown
On 7/12/2012 3:49 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Jim's bond everything together is a great solution (and it works) for the home station using a desktop computer, but bonding the computer becomes more difficult when using laptops with all plastic cases. I cannot find a good place to connect to the

Re: [Elecraft] Digital Mode Interface for the KX3 for WSJT modes

2012-07-13 Thread Bill Conkling
, 2012 01:19:19 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Digital Mode Interface for the KX3 for WSJT modes Ed, For use with the KX3, I would believe the audio generated PTT signal such as shown in Skip Teller's interface at https://sites.google.com/site/kh6tyinterface/ would be the preferred PTT solution

Re: [Elecraft] Digital Mode Interface for the KX3 for WSJT modes

2012-07-13 Thread Don Wilhelm
Bill, You may want to re-think using the serial port on your interface. Most data mode applications like to use the same COM port for rig control (OK, maybe just frequency display) as they use to activate DTR or RTS for PTT. Given that the KX3 supplied cables only have RXD and TXD signals,

Re: [Elecraft] Digital Mode Interface for the KX3 for WSJT modes

2012-07-13 Thread Lance Collister, W7GJ
Hi Don, The advantage of using the RTS line to trigger the PTT is that some software - notably WSJT - provides a high signal on the RTS line well in advance of the start of any audio tones. This allows those of use who are using amplifiers, preamplifiers and coaxial relays to avoid hot

Re: [Elecraft] Digital Mode Interface for the KX3 for WSJT modes

2012-07-13 Thread Bob Cunnings
I don't understand this response. Why would he need to use 2 serial ports or Y adapters? He states that a full serial port will run from computer to interface box, where the serial signals will be broken out as required for PTT and CW. Presumably the KXSER rs-232 cable could run between interface

Re: [Elecraft] Digital Mode Interface for the KX3 for WSJT modes

2012-07-13 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
Given that the KX3 supplied cables only have RXD and TXD signals, using the serial port to generate PTT requires that either you use 2 serial ports (one may be the KX3 USB cable and the other can be a real port or USB to Serial adapter), or provide a Y adapter to go to your interface. Or

Re: [Elecraft] Digital Mode Interface for the KX3 for WSJT modes

2012-07-13 Thread Don Wilhelm
What is missing is that the KXSER serial cable carries only wires for TXD and RXD. Furthermore, the backshell is molded, so you cannot open it and add the wires. To use PTT from RTS or DTE, you would have to use a regular serial cable to your interface box, and then provide an outlet from that

Re: [Elecraft] Digital Mode Interface for the KX3 for WSJT modes

2012-07-13 Thread Don Wilhelm
Joe, That will work, BUT neither the KXSER or KXUSB cables could be used - they do not contain RTS or DTR signals. 73, Don W3FPR On 7/13/2012 12:30 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Given that the KX3 supplied cables only have RXD and TXD signals, using the serial port to generate PTT requires

Re: [Elecraft] Digital Mode Interface for the KX3 for WSJT modes

2012-07-13 Thread Bill Conkling
: [Elecraft] Digital Mode Interface for the KX3 for WSJT modes Given that the KX3 supplied cables only have RXD and TXD signals, using the serial port to generate PTT requires that either you use 2 serial ports (one may be the KX3 USB cable and the other can be a real port or USB to Serial adapter

Re: [Elecraft] Digital Mode Interface for the KX3 for WSJT modes

2012-07-13 Thread Bill Conkling
- From: Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com To: Bob Cunnings bob.cunni...@gmail.com Cc: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Fri, Jul 13, 2012 18:05:11 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Digital Mode Interface for the KX3 for WSJT modes What is missing is that the KXSER serial cable carries

Re: [Elecraft] Digital Mode Interface for the KX3 for WSJT modes

2012-07-13 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Digital Mode Interface for the KX3 for WSJT modes Given that the KX3 supplied cables only have RXD and TXD signals, using the serial port to generate PTT requires that either you use 2 serial ports (one may be the KX3 USB cable and the other can be a real port or USB

Re: [Elecraft] Digital Mode Interface for the KX3 for WSJT modes

2012-07-13 Thread W7GJ, Lance
Hi Gary, If it is still available, I would be interested. PSE let me know, and I will send you cash tmrw by mail. VY 73, Lance On 7/13/2012 3:12 AM, Gary K9GS [via Elecraft] wrote: Or just buy one of these: http://www.unifiedmicro.com/sci6.htm Hard to beat for $25.00. BTWI

Re: [Elecraft] Digital Mode Interface for the KX3 for WSJT modes

2012-07-13 Thread Bob Cunnings
Yes, I *know* that the KXSER serial cable carries only wires for TXD and RXD. That's why I said that the KXSER cable would run between the KX3 and the interface box. As the original message stated, a *full* serial port would run from the computer to the interface box, where PTT and CW would be

Re: [Elecraft] Digital Mode Interface for the KX3 for WSJT modes

2012-07-13 Thread Don Wilhelm
Sorry Bob, I did not mean to ignore your initial offerings, but there were others chiming in with information that simply would not work, and assumptions that the KXUSB cable could provide PTT via RTS or DTR. The folks at Elecraft support have also been asked questions about RTS or DTR PTT

[Elecraft] Digital Mode Interface for the KX3 for WSJT modes

2012-07-12 Thread Edward R. Cole
Lance, Still on my to-dolist, but today is devoted to finishing my semi-annual shack clean-up and working up a presentation to demo the KX3 this Saturday at our local hamfest (which I am chairman). Oh, and somehow dig out all the stuff I wanted to unload at the flea-market session. Only

Re: [Elecraft] Digital Mode Interface for the KX3 for WSJT modes

2012-07-12 Thread Don Wilhelm
Ed, Lance, I have constructed my digital interface, but have not tried it yet. The basis was the interface designed by Skip Teller KH6TY Classic Universal Soundcard Interface from QST July 2010. That interface is small and fits into the housing of a large DB-9 backshell. I purchased some 3

Re: [Elecraft] Digital Mode Interface for the KX3 for WSJT modes

2012-07-12 Thread Holger Schurig
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Re: [Elecraft] Digital Mode Interface for the KX3 for WSJT modes

2012-07-12 Thread Don Wilhelm
Thanks, yes that is the one that produces the PTT from the audio stream. I note that Skip no longer has kits and boards, but he has supplied a complete parts list and the circuit is simple enough to wire on perfboard. The photos provide a nice layout guide. Contrary to K9YC's statements, I

Re: [Elecraft] Digital Mode Interface for the KX3 for WSJT modes

2012-07-12 Thread Edward R. Cole
Don, After making several sound-card interfaces (never have used a commercially made one), I deduced the surest way to avoid audio problems was by total isolation of computer ground and radio ground. East to accomplish using isolation transformers for audio and opto-isolators for dc

Re: [Elecraft] Digital Mode Interface for the KX3 for WSJT modes

2012-07-12 Thread Don Wilhelm
Ed, For use with the KX3, I would believe the audio generated PTT signal such as shown in Skip Teller's interface at https://sites.google.com/site/kh6tyinterface/ would be the preferred PTT solution. My reason is that the KX3 USB data cable includes only TXD and RXD. If you use RTS or DTR

Re: [Elecraft] Digital Mode Interface for the KX3 for WSJT modes

2012-07-12 Thread Gary K9GS
Or just buy one of these: http://www.unifiedmicro.com/sci6.htm Hard to beat for $25.00. BTWI have a brand new one for sale, already assembled, never used. Will sell for $20.00 including shipping to the lower 48 states. Note this is NOT set up for the KX3...strictly stock using the

[Elecraft] Digital Mode Interface for the KX3 for WSJT modes

2012-07-11 Thread Lance Collister, W7GJ
I am still waiting for my KX3, but I imagine with over 600 of them out in the field, SOMEBODY must have experimented with an interface for running WSJT modes. I will need to build up the custom interface cables as soon as my KX3 eventually arrives, and I won't have much time left to

Re: [Elecraft] Digital Mode Interface for the KX3 for WSJT modes

2012-07-11 Thread Jim Brown
On 7/11/2012 9:48 AM, Lance Collister, W7GJ wrote: I am planning to connect the computer LINE OUT to the tip and sleeve of the KX3 MIC jack. However, in K9YC's interface manual, he suggests, putting a 4700 ohm resistor in series with the tip, and putting a 470 ohm resistor from tip to