Re: [Elecraft] Digital mode power handling for KAT3

2023-10-13 Thread john
I agree that the KAT3(a) can run 100 watts for quite a while. I have run 100 watts in RTTY contests with both of my K3S(s) without issue. I have never used FT8, I am sure that my RTTY transmissions are shorter than a 13 second FT8 transmission however the non-transmit time in-between RTTY

Re: [Elecraft] Digital mode power handling for KAT3

2023-10-13 Thread Ray
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Re: [Elecraft] Digital mode power handling for KAT3

2023-10-13 Thread Rick NK7I
The answer is in the results of simple questions: Who, if any, has had their KAT3 fail and for what cause?  What was actual (r,x,c) antenna load, that was being attempted? I suspect the failures are low, it's smart enough to quit trying if the match is too extreme.  The same components

Re: [Elecraft] Digital mode power handling for KAT3

2023-10-13 Thread David Gilbert
I am reasonably certain that the KAT3 can handle 100 watts for a lengthy period to time (enough for normal FT8 purposes) if the SWR it is trying to match is low enough.  But the original query didn't say how high an SWR he was trying to match.  The KAT3 is certainly capable of matching some

Re: [Elecraft] Digital mode power handling for KAT3

2023-10-13 Thread Linda M
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Re: [Elecraft] Digital mode power handling for KAT3

2023-10-13 Thread Bill Frantz
I have frequently used my K3 at 100 watts with FT8 and RTTY. I haven’t had anything which would indicate that components are getting overstressed (e.g. bad smells). Now, I don’t think I have given a full 100 watts when something isn’t connected in the antenna system, although the KAT3 does

Re: [Elecraft] Digital mode power handling for KAT3

2023-10-12 Thread David Gilbert
e: Message: 17 Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 21:40:19 -0700 From: David Gilbert To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Digital mode power handling for KAT3 Message-ID: <53d23883-e9e2-451d-cb5e-38e78b991...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed FT8 is

Re: [Elecraft] Digital mode power handling for KAT3

2023-10-12 Thread Geert Jan de Groot
FWIW: I use my K3/KAT3 at 100 W in RTTY contests with no issues.? % derating could be a function of the complex impedance at the end of your transmission line ... my match on all bands is not terrible. Be aware that the KAT3 has a IF trap (C10/L10) which may catastrophically fail depending

[Elecraft] Digital mode power handling for KAT3

2023-10-12 Thread Bob McGraw
: [Elecraft] Digital mode power handling for KAT3 Message-ID: <53d23883-e9e2-451d-cb5e-38e78b991...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed FT8 is definitely full duty cycle for its 13 second transmit period, but of course then it is idle for the last two period an

[Elecraft] Digital mode power handling for KAT3

2023-10-12 Thread Bob McGraw
...@mailman.qth.net wrote: Message: 7 Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 12:50:38 -0400 From: To: Subject: [Elecraft] Digital mode power handling for KAT3 Message-ID: <06cf01d9fc63$10461310$30d23930$@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello. I recently bought a very nice K

Re: [Elecraft] Digital mode power handling for KAT3

2023-10-11 Thread David Gilbert
key-down at 25 C ambient I think this answers the question. 73, Mark, WB9CIF -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of ken.k...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 16:51 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Digital mode power handling

Re: [Elecraft] Digital mode power handling for KAT3

2023-10-11 Thread Mark Musick
16:51 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Digital mode power handling for KAT3 Hello. I recently bought a very nice K3 from a friend. It has the KAT3 auto-tuner installed. Due to the duty cycle of most digital modes, most, if not all, external auto tuners are "de-rated"

Re: [Elecraft] Digital mode power handling for KAT3

2023-10-11 Thread David Gilbert
FT8 is definitely full duty cycle for its 13 second transmit period, but of course then it is idle for the last two period and idle for the 15 seconds it is receiving. Dave   AB7E On 10/11/2023 8:20 PM, Ken WA8JXM wrote: Not just the tuner, the K3 is not rated for full power on 100% duty

Re: [Elecraft] Digital mode power handling for KAT3

2023-10-11 Thread Ken WA8JXM
Not just the tuner, the K3 is not rated for full power on 100% duty cycle modes. Just like it's not rated or 100% key down CW. But realize that many of the modes are half transmit and half listen. Different digital modes have different duty cycles. From the W1HKJ.com website: 100% duty cycle:

Re: [Elecraft] Digital mode power handling for KAT3

2023-10-11 Thread Fred Jensen
FWIW: I use my K3/KAT3 at 100 W in RTTY contests with no issues.  % derating could be a function of the complex impedance at the end of your transmission line ... my match on all bands is not terrible. 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County ken.k...@gmail.com wrote on

[Elecraft] Digital mode power handling for KAT3

2023-10-11 Thread ken.kj9b
Hello. I recently bought a very nice K3 from a friend. It has the KAT3 auto-tuner installed. Due to the duty cycle of most digital modes, most, if not all, external auto tuners are "de-rated" for digital modes. I haven't been able to find any reference to this for the KAT3. Does anyone know