Re: [Elecraft] IF shift

2007-04-10 Thread Don Wilhelm
Brett, Yes, the Kenwood TS-820 was a single conversion transceiver that implemented IF shift. To have IF shift in a single conversion receiver it is necessary to change both the VFO and BFO together in synch (and in the proper direction). I believe it could have been done in the K2 micropro

Re: [Elecraft] IF shift

2007-04-10 Thread VR2BrettGraham
No, this is not an LDE - I simply missed sending it originally. In the meantime, I would have sworn the TS-820 my father had did have an IF shift knob, turning that knob caused it to behave like the radio had IF shift & this IF shift functionality worked on all bands. As they say, live & learn.

Re: [Elecraft] IF shift

2007-02-09 Thread Bob Nielsen
Brett, that quote was from N6WG, not me. 73, Bob, N7XY On Feb 9, 2007, at 3:57 PM, VR2BrettGraham wrote: N7XY queried: "One of the strengths of the K2 is its single-conversion design. That is, in part, responsible for the extremely good specifications the receiver enjoys. However, i.f. s

Re: [Elecraft] IF shift

2007-02-09 Thread VR2BrettGraham
N7XY queried: "One of the strengths of the K2 is its single-conversion design. That is, in part, responsible for the extremely good specifications the receiver enjoys. However, i.f. shift such as other rigs often feature require a multiple-conversion design with all the issues that come with add

Re: [Elecraft] IF shift

2007-02-09 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Morning Dale, Passband Tuning can be incorporated into a single conversion receiver which uses a product detector. The method used in most commercial receivers for amateur use (putting aside DSP) is to have two IF filters in cascade along with mixers. By varying the injection frequencies to the

RE: [Elecraft] IF shift

2007-02-08 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Hi, Bob: Yes, I have learned about that one since posting my comment! I tend to forget that controllers today can do things that were not practical a few years ago. Stuart (I think it was) pointed out that Art Collins actually accomplished passband tuning by mechanically rotating the whole oscilla

Re: [Elecraft] IF shift

2007-02-08 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
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Re: [Elecraft] IF shift

2007-02-08 Thread Bob Tellefsen
Hi Ron "One of the strengths of the K2 is its single-conversion design. That is, in part, responsible for the extremely good specifications the receiver enjoys. However, i.f. shift such as other rigs often feature require a multiple-conversion design with all the issues that come with additional m

Re: [Elecraft] IF shift

2007-02-08 Thread David Wilburn
This article had a big impact on my choice of the rig. It was written from the user's point of view, and with extensive hands on experience. http://www.elecraft.com/TechNotes/ncjk2100.pdf David Wilburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] K4DGW Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy wrote: David Wilburn wrote: In the a

Re: [Elecraft] IF shift

2007-02-08 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
David Wilburn wrote: In the article from the contester on the Elecraft site, N6 something, he setup the SSB filters to act a bit like an IF shift. One filter to the left, one to the right, and one center. Thought that was interesting. ---

Re: [Elecraft] IF shift

2007-02-08 Thread David Wilburn
In the article from the contester on the Elecraft site, N6 something, he setup the SSB filters to act a bit like an IF shift. One filter to the left, one to the right, and one center. Thought that was interesting. David Wilburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] K4DGW Jeff Kinzli wrote: Hey friends, how h

Re: [Elecraft] IF shift--Don't Forget CW-Rev.

2007-02-08 Thread Jeff
Jeff and gang, If you're working CW, don't forget about the CW-Reverse feature of the K2. This feature accomplishes the same thing as IF shift, although the degree of passband frequency shift isn't adjustable in real time. 73 & 72, Jeff WB5GWB Long Island, NY

Re: [Elecraft] IF shift

2007-02-07 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
12:07 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] IF shift What is the point of IF shift? What purpose does it serve? Can't you do the same thing (or nearly so) with RIT? My understanding of IF shift is that it allows you to move an interfering signal to the edge of the passband and attenuate it by do

RE: [Elecraft] IF shift

2007-02-07 Thread Don Wilhelm
gt; From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeff Kinzli > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 6:50 PM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] IF shift > > > Hey friends, how hard would it be to implement something along the > lines of an IF

RE: [Elecraft] IF shift

2007-02-07 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
One of the strengths of the K2 is its single-conversion design. That is, in part, responsible for the extremely good specifications the receiver enjoys. However, i.f. shift such as other rigs often feature require a multiple-conversion design with all the issues that come with additional mixers, os

Re: [Elecraft] IF shift

2007-02-07 Thread Fred Jensen
dave wrote: What is the point of IF shift? What purpose does it serve? Can't you do the same thing (or nearly so) with RIT? My understanding of IF shift is that it allows you to move an interfering signal to the edge of the passband and attenuate it by doing so. Seems that nearly the same

Re: [Elecraft] IF shift

2007-02-07 Thread dave
What is the point of IF shift? What purpose does it serve? Can't you do the same thing (or nearly so) with RIT? My understanding of IF shift is that it allows you to move an interfering signal to the edge of the passband and attenuate it by doing so. Seems that nearly the same result can be

[Elecraft] IF shift

2007-02-07 Thread Jeff Kinzli
Hey friends, how hard would it be to implement something along the lines of an IF shift, ala the TS830S IF shift? That's something I really like about my 830 and it seems like it would be a nice addition to the K2. Along the same lines, would it be feasible to have an outboard S-meter needle? I

Re: [Elecraft] IF Shift, PB Tuning, and why neither completely eliminates QRM

2006-08-09 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
On Wednesday, August 09, 2006 at 7:18 AM Wayne Burdick wrote: A much better approach to the "Filter Shifing" problem would be to actually *narrow* the first crystal filter, protecting all subsequent stages. --- May I second Way

Re: [Elecraft] IF Shift, PB Tuning, and why neither completely eliminates QRM

2006-08-09 Thread Darrell Bellerive
Could the SSB filter on the SSB Option board be made into a variable-passband filter rather than modifying the CW filter? On August 8, 2006 11:18 pm, wayne burdick wrote: > You could also modify the K2's variable-passband CW filter to optimize > for wide bandwidths (SSB/DATA) rather than narrow.

RE: [Elecraft] IF Shift vs. Passband Tuning?

2006-08-09 Thread jmeade
The first time I saw the term "passband tuning" was on the Collins 75A4 receiver. It shifted the BFO in one direction and the main PTO in the other direction. The two were linked together with a mechanical strap. The idea was that the pitch of the received signal would not change nor would the act

Re: [Elecraft] IF Shift, PB Tuning, and why neither completely eliminates QRM

2006-08-09 Thread Ken Alexander
--- wayne burdick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > These terms are often used interchangeably. It's > like the terms > "biannual" and "semi-annual." One is supposed to > mean "every six > months" and the other "every other year," but some > dictionaries list > them as synonyms, because you can make

[Elecraft] IF Shift, PB Tuning, and why neither completely eliminates QRM

2006-08-08 Thread wayne burdick
These terms are often used interchangeably. It's like the terms "biannual" and "semi-annual." One is supposed to mean "every six months" and the other "every other year," but some dictionaries list them as synonyms, because you can make a case for either word having either definition. Similar

RE: [Elecraft] IF Shift vs. Passband Tuning?

2006-08-08 Thread Don Wilhelm
Jeff, As far as I know, IF shift and Passbasnd Tuning are the same thing - just different names for the advertizing hype folks to enjoy. The major benefit of Passband tuning is that an interfering signal can be moved off the edge of that reciever passband without changing the pitch of the receive

[Elecraft] IF Shift vs. Passband Tuning?

2006-08-08 Thread Jeff
Hi gang, Are IF shift and passband tuning (PBT) the same thing? I assume that they produce the same effect. I have a Ten-Tec Argonaut V that has PBT, but I have never used that feature, thus I don't miss it on my K2. I guess I just don't grasp what PBT would do for me that I can't do with RI