Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-06-01 Thread drewko1
On Sat, 31 May 2008 23:35:39 -0400, Joe, W4TV wrote: > > > >The key are dedicated "band select" buttons that allow random >access (direct switching) selection with the ability to choose >alternate saved frequencies (generally, on the other modes) >with successive presses of the specific band b

RE: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-31 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
ith successive presses of the specific band button. 73, ... Joe, W4TV > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Rasmussen > Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 6:32 PM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject

[Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-31 Thread Don Rasmussen
ve offset - if these were the last three spots on 10 meters where you were operating. You never have to press "save", you have an automatic "bread crumb" trail of all the most recent places you've been [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate... Brian Ll

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-31 Thread drewko1
On Sat, 31 May 2008 10:17:24 -0700, Brian, WB6RQN wrote: > >As I tune across the band I often hear a signal that sounds >interesting, e.g. a station in QSO that I want to go back to or a pile- >up I don't want to try to deal with now, but I don't want to stop >there. I want to keep going. So

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-31 Thread Dave KQ3T
That sounds like a ring, or circular queue, in CS terms. I'm another who has never quite understand what a band-stacking memory is, or does. 73, Dave KQ3T David Woolley (E.L) wrote: What they want is a stack, for each band as well as a button for each band. The stack isn't a true stack, a

Re: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-31 Thread Fred Jensen
Don Wilhelm wrote: If you are referring to something different, then please do not call it a stack - the definition of a memory stack has been quite clear since the first days of microprocessors. Actually, well before the first u-processors. The first stack architecture computers I can r

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-31 Thread Brian Lloyd
The biggest problem with all of this is that different manufacturers have given different names to the same thing and the same name to different things. We can talk about "band stacking registers" (no clue as to what those do even tho' I have them in my Icom rig), "memories," etc., until we

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-31 Thread Don Wilhelm
Mark Bayern wrote: "The Art of Computer Programming" was written in the mid-60s, and would certainly have fixed the usage of the term by then. _was_ written in the mid-60s? ... volume 1 maybe. Volume 4 is currently shown as 'in preparation'. When I first realized that the work had expand

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-31 Thread Mark Bayern
>"The Art of Computer Programming" was written in the mid-60s, and > would certainly have fixed the usage of the term by then. _was_ written in the mid-60s? ... volume 1 maybe. Volume 4 is currently shown as 'in preparation'. When I first realized that the work had expanded to 7 volumes I was afra

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-31 Thread David Woolley (E.L)
Don Wilhelm wrote: Do you really want band *stacking* memories? A stacking memory is first-in, last out, so you have to drill down through the stack to get the one you want. That seems likea much worse situation than the normal band up/down switch which is a double ended stack. I find it

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-30 Thread Mike Harris
Hi Drew, - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate... |I don't have a K3 yet but I'm happy with the Band+ and Band- buttons | on my K2. I pretty much know how many

[Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-30 Thread Don Rasmussen
ossible, but there are 5 DVR keys, which could be reassigned to allow 2X or 3X stacking of your 5 favorite bands. Some will ask - what's the point if PowerSDR can make up the difference?, others would suggest they'd rather leave the computer off most of the time. [Elecraft] K3 Band changi

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-30 Thread W6NEK
From: "Dave Van Wallaghen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Don Rasmussen'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 5:35 AM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate... Amen to that Don. As a non-contesting

[Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-30 Thread Don Rasmussen
Don (fpr type), The TS-930 is a 25 year old design - post Y2K those memories (registers) are tunable, accessed randomly, and stacked to some level. > John, If you assign the 'Quick Memories' to the bands as suggested in the manual (and per Windy's solution on the reflector), then you ha

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-30 Thread Don Wilhelm
John, If you assign the 'Quick Memories' to the bands as suggested in the manual (and per Windy's solution on the reflector), then you have exactly the same function as your TS-930 provides. In addition, the K3's band up/down buttons will take you to the last used frequency on any band rath

[Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-30 Thread Don Rasmussen
Nobody should confuse my comments to be negative, I truly love this radio. [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate... Don Wilhelm w3fpr at embarqmail.com Fri May 30 08:11:38 EDT 2008 Previous message: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate... Next message: [Elecraft] K3 Band c

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-30 Thread Dave KQ3T
I'm starting to think that if, historically, all rigs had come with Band+ and Band- buttons, plus dedicated GoToBandXY buttons, we'd be seeing posts asking for a knob connected by a shaft to a multi-gang rotary switch, hooked to a big air-wound coil with multiple taps. I'm confident the Elecra

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-30 Thread drewko1
I don't have a K3 yet but I'm happy with the Band+ and Band- buttons on my K2. I pretty much know how many pushes I'll need to get from one band to another, usually only one or two away. Anyhow, the display changes instantly with each button push before the relays get a chance to switch, so you c

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-30 Thread W7TEA
My K3 should be arriving in a 2-3 weeks so I'll obviously pass on making suggestions until I can play with it awhile. My Omni VII's band stacking registers are not FIFO but rather like having four sets of VFO's for each band at the push of one button. So VFO A could be at 14.001 and VFO B ope

RE: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-30 Thread John W2XS
I haven't used the K3 receiver enough to really comment, but I like the way the TS-930 works (with the PIEXX board installed). There are 99 memories available which are accessed via the RIT knob (similar to the K3 and the VFO B knob). In addition, there are 9 individual band buttons on the front

RE: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-30 Thread Dave Van Wallaghen
Original Message- > From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 9:02 AM > To: Dave Van Wallaghen > Cc: 'Don Rasmussen'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate... > > Dave, > > I be

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-30 Thread Don Wilhelm
Dave, I believe what is really wanted is "random access" band buttons - in other words a single button press for each band. For the life of me, I cannot figure out how this ever has been construed in ham circles to use the term "band stacking memories" - perhaps someone can tell me how 'rand

RE: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-30 Thread Dave Van Wallaghen
Wilhelm > Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 8:12 AM > To: Don Rasmussen > Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate... > > Don, > > Do you really want band *stacking* memories? A stacking memory is > first-in, last out, so you have

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-30 Thread Don Wilhelm
Don, Do you really want band *stacking* memories? A stacking memory is first-in, last out, so you have to drill down through the stack to get the one you want. That seems likea much worse situation than the normal band up/down switch which is a double ended stack. If you are referring to s

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...

2008-05-30 Thread David Woolley
Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: I've often looked at modern components and realized how easy it'd be to homebrew a phasing exciter. As a 99.9% CW buff, I've not been highly I believe that most, if not all, DSP (i.e. both K3 type and PC type SDRs) SSB modulators are essentially digital version of the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...

2008-05-30 Thread David Yarnes
%), and life was good! Kind of a brick though, compared to my 8 pound K3! Dave W7AQK - Original Message - From: "Alan Bloom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Bob Nielsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "elecraft List" Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 6:04 P

[Elecraft] K3 Band changing...Devils Advocate...

2008-05-29 Thread Don Rasmussen
10 if you include HOLD. But I'll not malign the K3 for missing what was on the 756Pro and the OMNI VI+, because once I find a frequency with the K3 it's a more enjoyable place to be. [Elecraft] K3 Band changing... ab2tc ab2tc at arrl.net Thu May 29 17:35:19 EDT 2008 Previous message

RE: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...

2008-05-29 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Great Alan! One of the wonderful things about the phasing exciters was that the bandwidth was not arbitrarily limited by a filter. It was limited *only* by the audio bandpass of the speech amps. Now, one could *not* do what today is called real ESSB with it because the phasing accuracy failed if

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...

2008-05-29 Thread Alan Bloom
Many (many, many) years ago my station consisted of a Heathkit Apache TX1 transmitter, Mohawk RX-1 receiver, and SB-10 SSB adapter. I figured that I had to switch or adjust a minimum of ---12--- controls to change bands. If I needed to change between LSB and USB, add two more for a total of 14.

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...

2008-05-29 Thread ab2tc
We are indeed spoiled. If Elecraft could just fix the disappearing of ham bands on the BAND button when tuning to a non-ham-band frequency, I would be happy as punch. Not all radios have a dedicated button for each band (at least 11), which is really a waste of panel space. I have been happy band-

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...

2008-05-29 Thread Mark Bayern
> You forgot to add changing the coils in the HRO receiver :^) Also forgot changing the crystal ... but you get the point. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Ch

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...

2008-05-29 Thread Bob Nielsen
You forgot to add changing the coils in the HRO receiver :^) Bob, N7XY On May 29, 2008, at 1:23 PM, Mark Bayern wrote: Sure sounds easier than turning off the plate supply, opening the top of the cabinet, changing the coil(s), closing it up, turning the HV on again, then tuning the rig for the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...

2008-05-29 Thread Mark Bayern
Sure sounds easier than turning off the plate supply, opening the top of the cabinet, changing the coil(s), closing it up, turning the HV on again, then tuning the rig for the new band. Mark AD5SS On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 3:04 PM, David Ferrington, M0XDF <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 5 presses?

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band changing...

2008-05-29 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
5 presses? -- A good cook is like a sorceress who dispenses happiness. -Elsa Schiaparelli, fashion designer (1890-1973) On 29 May 2008, at 20:28, Dave G. wrote: What's wrong with "FREQ ENT" -> '1' -> '4' -> '.' -> 'ENTER' ? -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Real stupidity be

[Elecraft] K3 Band changing...

2008-05-29 Thread Dave G.
What's wrong with "FREQ ENT" -> '1' -> '4' -> '.' -> 'ENTER' ? -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time." Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather' ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@m

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Band Changing

2008-05-07 Thread Brian Alsop
Heaven forbid. The "bandswitch" belongs on the radio. I waiting for the day the Elecraft decides to drill a hole an the front panel and add a real bandswitch. I'm a bit dismayed by all the extra "dongles" I will now have to connect to interface the K3 to existing equipment-- e.g. an externa

[Elecraft] K3 Band Changing

2008-05-07 Thread Phil & Debbie Salas
OK - How about one of you smart PIC guys building a keypad that plugs into the RS232 port. The keys could be marked with the bands. Multiple presses of the individual band keys would provide for band stacking. This would make a great accessory for the K3, would make a great QST article, and m