[Elecraft] K3 RX spurs

2010-11-23 Thread Ramiro Aceves
Hello K3 fans I am a bit stranged and frustrated cause nobody has answered a single word to my email K3 RX spurs posted on november the 20th. No comments, no ideas After some tests I have concluded that the spurs are 3rd order intermodulation products. They only occur in DATA or CW. ¿Can

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX spurs

2010-11-23 Thread Julian, G4ILO
What output are you taking the audio from to plot these results? The line output signal goes through an isolating transformer. I think this saturates at quite a low audio level introducing non-linearity. You need to turn LIN OUT down to 2 or as low as you can get. I haven't done the test you

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX spurs

2010-11-23 Thread Ramiro Aceves
Hi Julian I am very glad to see that someone has replyied to my email. I have LINE_OUT= nor 019 If I go down to 002 I need to rise gain at the sound card, and the intermods are the same. http://ea1abz.ure.es/spurs.jpeg This spurs seem to produce only if both test signals are close, closer

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX spurs

2010-11-23 Thread Igor Sokolov
Is this about 3rd order inband IMD? The subject was widely discussed some time ago. Just try to search the archaive. 73, Igor UA9DC - Original Message - From: Ramiro Aceves ea1...@gmail.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 3:20 PM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 RX

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX spurs

2010-11-23 Thread Ramiro Aceves
, but I have not found IMD measurements made with very closed test sigs. 73, Ramiro. EA4NZ 73, Igor UA9DC - Original Message - From: Ramiro Aceves ea1...@gmail.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 3:20 PM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 RX spurs Hello K3

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX spurs

2010-11-23 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Ramiro, Are you using a hybrid to combine the SW carrier and the signal generator's output before sending them to the K3, and how strong are these two signals (dbm)? If you are not using some type of hybrid, could you please let me know how you are adding these signals. It is possible that

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX spurs

2010-11-23 Thread Ramiro Aceves
For comparison, sigs of FT-897 and K3. Notice the increase in IMD on DATA mode. FT-897 and K3 on USB have got similar IMD. http://ea1abz.ure.es/k3_vs_ft897.jpeg I have seen worst IMDs but I have not registered them 73, Ramiro. __

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX spurs

2010-11-23 Thread Ramiro Aceves
A more evident difference in IMD between DATA and USB modes. http://ea1abz.ure.es/cw_vs_data.jpeg Thanks, Ramiro, EA4NZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX spurs

2010-11-23 Thread Ramiro Aceves
Lyle Johnson escribió: Hello Ramiro! O, Yes, yess, yess Lyle, you are a genius! I must go out home now, I will tell you later!! It may be AGC pumping due to the close spaced signals having a beat note that is slower than the AGC

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX spurs

2010-11-23 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Thank you. My suspicion is that the IMD is being generated outside of the radios, but I need to take a closer look at your data. I see that there are many more IMD products below 990 Hz than above 1000 Hz in the top half of the waterfall in your CW vs DATA comparison, which could suggest that

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX spurs

2010-11-23 Thread Graham Kimbell G3TCT
Ramiro I don't see any difference here between USB, CW and Data. Third order products are about 45-50dB down here, whereas yours seem to be about 20dB down (difficult to see on the spectrum though). Maybe your sound card input is being over-driven? Graham On 19:59, Ramiro Aceves wrote:

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX spurs

2010-11-23 Thread Igor Sokolov
@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX spurs Igor Sokolov escribió: Is this about 3rd order inband IMD? The subject was widely discussed some time ago. Just try to search the archaive. Many information there, thanks http

Re: [Elecraft] K3 RX spurs

2010-11-23 Thread Ramiro Aceves
Thank you very much for all who reply to may problem and gave ideas and suggestions. http://ea1abz.ure.es/agcF-agcS.jpeg Notice the 3rd order spur suppression after changing from AGC-F to AGS-S settings in DATA A mode. Igor, very interesting article, what a pitty that is in russian

[Elecraft] K3 RX spurs?

2010-11-20 Thread Ramiro Aceves
Hi all, I am going to describe a problem that I have found recently. Several days ago, I was encouraged by another ham to see aircraft doppler radio reflections. I wired my K3 to Linrad (www.sm5bsz.com) FFT waterfall Linux program. I tuned a spanish broadcast station on 21610 KHz (REE, Radio