Re: [Elecraft] KATxxx Remote Tuner

2020-04-20 Thread CUTTER DAVID via Elecraft
For those with antennas that are "nearly right," eg provide <1.5:1 in a sweet spot but not the entire band, like a beam or a dipole, a commercial matcher that covers a huge range is not justified. A simple multi-tapped transformer would satisfy those needs. A relay-switched unit should be

Re: [Elecraft] KATxxx Remote Tuner

2020-04-19 Thread W2xj
Please don’t talk down to me or many other of us. I’ve been in this hobby for over 60 years and I know how things worked both then and now. To answer your question about broadcast, many systems consist of series fed towers. In a practical world a tower presenting zero reactance is about 35

Re: [Elecraft] KATxxx Remote Tuner

2020-04-19 Thread ab2tc
Hi, I know nothing about BC transmitters and antennas but in our world of amateur radio solid state transmitters it is imperative that the transmission line presents a load close to 50 ohms resistive to the transmitter. The transmitter doesn't care how this is accomplished as long as it sees a

Re: [Elecraft] KATxxx Remote Tuner

2020-04-19 Thread Lyn Norstad
] On Behalf Of David Gilbert Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2020 1:17 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KATxxx Remote Tuner Why? Specifically (numbers please), what would it gain you that would be cost effective versus other alternatives? 73, Dave AB7E On 4/19/2020 8:52 AM

Re: [Elecraft] KATxxx Remote Tuner

2020-04-19 Thread W2xj
you get what you pay for. Sent from my iPad > On Apr 19, 2020, at 5:58 PM, Grant Youngman wrote: > > At a “mere” $3K each, the AT-615B might be a great product, but is hardly > what I would call a universally accessible solution … > > Grant NQ5T > >> On Apr 19, 2020, at 5:13 PM, W2xj

Re: [Elecraft] KATxxx Remote Tuner

2020-04-19 Thread Grant Youngman
At a “mere” $3K each, the AT-615B might be a great product, but is hardly what I would call a universally accessible solution … Grant NQ5T > On Apr 19, 2020, at 5:13 PM, W2xj wrote: > > You can get an AT-615B from Array Solutions now and do this. I put 10 in a > club station for our various

Re: [Elecraft] KATxxx Remote Tuner

2020-04-19 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
I agree. Match the antenna, whatever the Z may be, to the feed line. This is most efficiently done at the antenna feed-point. However with good loss coax on HF, matching at the transmitter end is easier and less complex and less expensive. Bob, K4TAX Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 19,

Re: [Elecraft] KATxxx Remote Tuner

2020-04-19 Thread W2xj
You can get an AT-615B from Array Solutions now and do this. I put 10 in a club station for our various wire arrays. They do everything you need. BTW I disagree about this 50 Ohm antenna thing. In my world of commercial high powered broadcasting 30 MHz and under, there are almost never

Re: [Elecraft] KATxxx Remote Tuner

2020-04-19 Thread David Gilbert
Why?  Specifically (numbers please), what would it gain you that would be cost effective versus other alternatives? 73, Dave   AB7E On 4/19/2020 8:52 AM, Lyn Norstad wrote: That being said, a “remote” version of the KAT500 (or a KAT1500) would be of immense interest to me – so I will

Re: [Elecraft] KATxxx Remote Tuner

2020-04-19 Thread David Gilbert
I don't think that's actually true in most cases.  For example, a load of 35 - j45 gives a 3:1 SWR at the load for 50 ohm coax, and the additional line loss at 14 MHz due to SWR over 200 feet of LMR-400 (moderate cost) is about 0.5 dB. In most cases with typical antennas and decent

Re: [Elecraft] KATxxx Remote Tuner

2020-04-19 Thread Jim Brown
On 4/19/2020 8:51 AM, ab2tc wrote: I totally agree with your last statement about the tuner placement. The importance of a tuner being at the feedpoint depends entirely on the antenna, the frequency(ies), and the feedline. The lower the operating frequency, and lower the feedline loss

Re: [Elecraft] KATxxx Remote Tuner

2020-04-19 Thread Lyn Norstad
craft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Richard Thorne Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2020 7:40 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] KATxxx Remote Tuner Eric/Wayne, Has there been any work done for a potential dedicated remote antenna tuner? A remote tuner that could handle 500 or

Re: [Elecraft] KATxxx Remote Tuner

2020-04-19 Thread ab2tc
Hi Rich, I totally agree with your last statement about the tuner placement. I can't answer for Eric and Wayne and I am sure they will chime in in due time. I haven't heard of any plans to introduce a weatherproofed version of any of their tuners. But the KAT500 is very easy to remote control

[Elecraft] KATxxx Remote Tuner

2020-04-19 Thread Richard Thorne
Eric/Wayne, Has there been any work done for a potential dedicated remote antenna tuner? A remote tuner that could handle 500 or 1500 watts to match up with amps power wise (Or just a barefoot K3/K4). Maybe a black box between the LAN on the K4 or ACC on the K3 so control signals could be