Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-14 Thread David Cutter
Hello Ed I tried adding further attenuators to a low output sig gen several times in the past and found that the enclosure leakage was higher than the output signal. My solution was to place the sig gen several feet away in a deep metal housing with very good coax and then use the attenuators

Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-14 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Wayne, will the software to do this be available for Mac OSX? 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108 -- Ideas are like rabbits. You get a couple and learn how to handle them, and pretty soon you have a dozen. --John Steinbeck, novelist, Nobel laureate (1902-1968) On 13 Apr 2011, at 21:31, Wayne Burdick

Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-14 Thread Adrian
As far as I know, no one on our staff has made a QSO on an XG3 yet. But keep in mind that 0 dBm is only 30 dB below 1 watt. So if your 1-W QRP rig is S9 at the receiving end, the XG3 would be about S3. Suitable antenna design is left to the reader. 73, Wayne N6KR Wayne would it be

Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-14 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
go look at the manual : http://www.elecraft.com/manual/XG3%20Owner%27s%20Manual%20Rev%20B.pdf - front page has BIG picture 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108 -- Sometimes I think we're alone in the universe, and sometimes I think we're not. In either case, the idea is quite staggering. -Arthur C

Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-14 Thread Terry Schieler
:10 PM To: ab2tc Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source RS-232. The cable is included. 73, Eric On 4/13/2011 3:33 PM, ab2tc wrote: Hi, Very interesting. Perhaps somewhat hastily I placed an order for one as I have been

Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-14 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
I will add this this morning. Eric On 4/14/2011 2:08 AM, Adrian wrote: As far as I know, no one on our staff has made a QSO on an XG3 yet. But keep in mind that 0 dBm is only 30 dB below 1 watt. So if your 1-W QRP rig is S9 at the receiving end, the XG3 would be about S3. Suitable

Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-14 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
The image of the XG3 on the order form is now clickable and opens a high resolution picture of the XG3 (1.8 MB). The direct link to the picture is: http://www.elecraft.com/images/XG3_1200%20.jpg 73, Eric WA6HHQ www.elecraft.com On 4/14/2011 9:34 AM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:

Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-14 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Its now up on the web site on the new XG3 info page: http://www.elecraft.com/XG3/xg3.htm 73, Eric WA6HHQ www.elecraft.com On 4/14/2011 10:11 AM, Jim Sheldon wrote: Eric, would you please see that the XG3 utility program gets posted somewhere on the site if it hasn't been already. Went

Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-14 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Eric, are there plans to make a OSX version? 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108 Success is the ability to go from failure to failure without losing your enthusiasm. - Winston Churchill (1874 - 1965). On 14 Apr 2011, at 23:25, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: Its now up on the web site on the

Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-14 Thread n5ge
Cycles are oscillation measurements. Mr Herz was a man who passed away many years ago. I prefer the use of cycles, because they indicate the exact type of the measurement, but I'm just an old geezer who prefers many aspects of the old days. Glad to hear that my selling of the old HP Analog

Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-14 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
I sympathize with Tom. We honor people by adopting their name for measurements and thereby lose what the original designations provided. Of course back in the 50's and 60's there were many who objected if we didn't use the complete designation including the time as in cycles per second, and so

Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-14 Thread Kevin Rock
Not many people at all would understand the measure of inverse seconds. Hz or cps are measured in 1/s increments. Kevin. KD5ONS On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 19:41:41 -0700, Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz wrote: I sympathize with Tom. We honor people by adopting their name for measurements and

Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-14 Thread James Maynard
You are an old English-speaking geezer (or at least an American-speaking geezer.) But the modern metric system (SI, the International System of Units) tries to name derived units after people so as to avoid the problem of cycle per second not translating well into other languages. (In not

Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-14 Thread Wes Stewart
You mean like kilo Megacycles per second. --- On Thu, 4/14/11, Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz wrote: From: Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz I sympathize with Tom. We honor people by adopting their name for measurements and thereby lose what the original designations provided. Of course

[Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Wayne Burdick
The XG3 is a miniature, programmable, 160-2 meter (and higher) synthesized RF signal source that puts out highly accurate levels of -107 dBm (1 uV), -73 dBm (50 uV or S9), -33 dBm (S9+40), and 0 dBm. You can find the XG3 on our order page: http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_prod_list.htm

Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Wayne Burdick
The XG3 manual link in my last email may have been broken. Here it is again: http://www.elecraft.com/manual/XG3%20Owner%27s%20Manual%20Rev%20B.pdf Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Jim Sheldon
That thing really looks nice -- I need one and have already downloaded the manual and placed my order. Perfect piece of test equipment for the shack and portable operations. Jim - W0EB __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Wayne Burdick
Jim Sheldon wrote: That thing really looks nice Perfect piece of test equipment for the shack and portable operations. It'll do the job of a 50-pound wide-range signal generator in many cases. That may be why everyone at Elecraft headquarters keeps borrowing them from everyone else.

Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Also note that the XG3 is computer controllable and that we provide a control and download utility that will be down-loadable from the web site. 73, Eric On 4/13/2011 1:31 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: The XG3 is a miniature, programmable, 160-2 meter (and higher) synthesized RF signal source

Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread David Gilbert
Any chance the XG3 utility could also control the K3? Set frequency on both pieces of gear and read K3 S-meter or dbV values, saving them to a log file ... like a tracking generator. You'd have to be able to communicate via two ports, of course. 73, Dave AB7E On 4/13/2011 1:43 PM,

Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Rick Dettinger
0 dbm. OK, how do I key this QRP transmitter. Is it type accepted? :-) 73, Rick Dettinger K7MW On Apr 13, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: The XG3 is a miniature, programmable, 160-2 meter (and higher) synthesized RF signal source that puts out highly accurate levels of -107 dBm

Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Wayne Burdick
Rick Dettinger wrote: 0 dbm. OK, how do I key this QRP transmitter You could key it from a PC with a couple of RS232 commands, although the keying won't be shaped unless you do it externally. As far as I know, no one on our staff has made a QSO on an XG3 yet. But keep in mind that 0

Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
:29 PM To: Wayne Burdick Cc: Elecraft Elecraft; QRP-L; elecr...@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source 0 dbm. OK, how do I key this QRP transmitter. Is it type accepted? :-) 73, Rick Dettinger K7MW

Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread ab2tc
Hi, Very interesting. Perhaps somewhat hastily I placed an order for one as I have been looking for something like this for a while. I couldn't figure out from the manual what's needed to connect to the computer interface. What is the type of connector and does Elecraft sell a special cable for

Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread pcbyrne
Got my order in for both the XG3 and the phase lock board for the 2 meter module. One nice mod for the XG3 would be the capability to input a precision 10 megacycle reference in place of the internal oscillator. I have a new XG2 kit that I will sell for $55.00 shipped anywhere in the CONUS.

Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Wes Stewart
It says RS-232 on p.8 of the manual. --- On Wed, 4/13/11, ab2tc ab...@arrl.net wrote: From: ab2tc ab...@arrl.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Wednesday, April 13, 2011, 4:33 PM Hi, Very interesting. Perhaps

Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Greg
It also says the RS232 cable is included. 73 Greg On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Wes Stewart n...@yahoo.com wrote: It says RS-232 on p.8 of the manual. --- On Wed, 4/13/11, ab2tc ab...@arrl.net wrote: From: ab2tc ab...@arrl.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All

Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Palmer C Byrne
Got my order in for both the XG3 and the phase lock board for the 2 meter module. One nice mod for the XG3 would be the capability to input a precision 10 megacycle reference in place of the internal oscillator. I have a new XG2 kit that I will sell for $55.00 shipped anywhere in the CONUS.

Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Oops, an oversight. I don't know if it's supplied with the XG3, but the interface cable is the same as that used for the W2 wattmeter. See: http://www.elecraft.com/manual/W2_Owners_Manual_Rev_B.pdf Page 25 (last page in the manual). Ron AC7AC -Original Message- Hi, Very

Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
, 2011 3:33 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source Hi, Very interesting. Perhaps somewhat hastily I placed an order for one as I have been looking for something like this for a while. I couldn't figure out from the manual what's

Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Doug Person
10 megacycle? Did you just step through a time portal from the 60's? Doug -- K0DXV On 4/13/2011 4:33 PM, pcbyrne wrote: 10 megacycle __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:

Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread FredJensen
On 4/13/2011 10:54 PM, pcbyrne wrote: One nice mod for the XG3 would be the capability to input a precision 10 megacycle reference in place of the internal oscillator. I think this is a first for the list. XG3 announced and in less than 24 hours [actually I think less than 12], a mod

Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Greg Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 3:54 PM To: Wes Stewart Cc: ab2tc; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source It also says the RS232 cable is included. 73 Greg

[Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Edward R. Cole
Very Nice and a lot cheaper and more portable than most signal generators. 432.66 is third harmonic of 144.22 and 9th harmonic falls on 1297.98 (a little high for 1296 but may be usable). But if the frequency can be moved by computer control, then very useful. I like that it will go down to

Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
RS-232. The cable is included. 73, Eric On 4/13/2011 3:33 PM, ab2tc wrote: Hi, Very interesting. Perhaps somewhat hastily I placed an order for one as I have been looking for something like this for a while. I couldn't figure out from the manual what's needed to connect to the computer

Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Bill (K9YEQ)
Elecraft; QRP-L; elecr...@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source Rick Dettinger wrote: 0 dbm. OK, how do I key this QRP transmitter You could key it from a PC with a couple of RS232 commands, although the keying won't be shaped unless you do

Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Jim Rhodes
Looks like the same cable as the W1?? Seems to be same type of jack anyway. Jim K0XU Sent from my Droid X On Apr 13, 2011 5:33 PM, ab2tc ab...@arrl.net wrote: Hi, Very interesting. Perhaps somewhat hastily I placed an order for one as I have been looking for something like this for a while. I

Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Eric Champine
Quick question. So I can use the XG3 for alignment on all of my kits rather than using another transceiver for that. Correct? Sounds like it to me and if so, I am going to love it. I like to build kits a lot. Have to hold off till next payday to order one, I was thinking about getting the XG2 for

Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Yes, and its included with the XG3. 73, Eric On 4/13/2011 5:16 PM, Jim Rhodes wrote: Looks like the same cable as the W1?? Seems to be same type of jack anyway. Jim K0XU On Apr 13, 2011 5:33 PM, ab2tcab...@arrl.net wrote: I couldn't figure out from the manual what's needed to

Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Hi Eric, That's exactly the idea. :-) 73, Eric WA6HHQ On 4/13/2011 5:27 PM, Eric Champine wrote: Quick question. So I can use the XG3 for alignment on all of my kits rather than using another transceiver for that. Correct? Sounds like it to me and if so, I am going to love it. I like

Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Edward R. Cole Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 4:16 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source Very Nice and a lot cheaper and more portable than most signal generators

[Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source

2011-04-13 Thread Johnny Siu
) 10:37:15 AM 主題: Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft product: XG3 All-Band RF Signal Source Yes, the 12 frequencies selectable from the front panel buttons can be stored using your computer for stand-alone use, or the computer can operate the XG3, giving you access to any frequency in from 1.5 to 200 MHz