Re: [Elecraft] Requirements for keying a KXPA100

2014-01-15 Thread John Marvin
I got a variety of suggestions, and decided to go the easiest route (since it worked) of removing the current limiting resistor and switching the diode to a schottky diode. The extra diode is required in my case because the PTT also keys an internal TX preamp whose keying circuit is run on

[Elecraft] Requirements for keying a KXPA100

2014-01-14 Thread John Marvin
So, I got my KXPA100 kit and have assembled it. But I'm having trouble keying it with my transceiver (HPSDR Hermes with alterations to support driving the KXPA100). My circuit didn't have any trouble keying my previous amp (a HFPacker V4). If I manually short the KXPA100 key input things

Re: [Elecraft] Requirements for keying a KXPA100

2014-01-14 Thread Lyle Johnson
John, The diode drop is likely the primary culprit. If you must use a series diode, use a Shottky diode (like a 1N5711) and not a silicon diode (like a 1N4148). The key input goes to a microprocessor digital I/O pin inside the KXPA100, and a diode drop - especially with a significant

Re: [Elecraft] Requirements for keying a KXPA100

2014-01-14 Thread John Marvin
Lyle, Thanks. I would have thought that a transistor driver would have been used to drive the I/O pin. Anyway, I measured the voltage drop across the key input of the KXPA100 when the transceiver was attempting to key the amp. The drop was 2.1 volts. Since the voltage for the circuit is

Re: [Elecraft] Requirements for keying a KXPA100

2014-01-14 Thread John Marvin
On 1/14/2014 2:08 PM, John Marvin wrote: Lyle, Thanks. I would have thought that a transistor driver would have been used to drive the I/O pin. Anyway, I measured the voltage drop across the key input of the KXPA100 when the transceiver was attempting to key the amp. The drop was 2.1 volts.

Re: [Elecraft] Requirements for keying a KXPA100

2014-01-14 Thread John Marvin
Oops, sorry for the prior mistaken posting. I just realized I can try an experiment directly shorting the key input of the KXPA100 through a variable resistor, in order to find what is required to trigger it. I can then do the math and add another .1v safety margin in order to determine

Re: [Elecraft] Requirements for keying a KXPA100

2014-01-14 Thread Don Wilhelm
John, For reliable operation, the input to a CMOS device must see a low level of 1.5 volts or less. Your 2.9 volts is in the indeterminate region. As a side note, a high level should be at least 3.5 volts (up to 5 volts), but in this case, the high level is determined by the pullup

Re: [Elecraft] Requirements for keying a KXPA100

2014-01-14 Thread Don Wilhelm
John, Rather than rely on the particular switching point of a sample of 1 KXPA100, why not measure the voltage across the variable resistor - when it is 1.3 volts or lower (1.0 volt if you are adding the voltage drop of a schottky diode), measure the value of the resistor - that is the