Re: [Elecraft] split pileup and listening was Pileups and KPA500/ST0R

2011-08-01 Thread KC6CNN
Thanks Ron AC7AC That explains alot. Ok I can see why now, after hearing a massive pileup and everyone stepping on each other. I appreciate you taking the time to explain it to me. Tony, it may have been done for alot of people, I have never experienced it. I like talking to DX, Finding out

Re: [Elecraft] split pileup and listening was Pileups and KPA500/ST0R

2011-08-01 Thread goldtr8
Thanks everyone who responded. I now have a basic understanding of split. I have spent time re-reading the manual, info below and pondered all the responses. Some off the list. I have spend time playing with the knobs on the K3 and think I now have the basics under control. To me this

Re: [Elecraft] split pileup and listening was Pileups and KPA500/ST0R

2011-08-01 Thread Tony Estep
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 7:11 PM, gold...@charter.net wrote: ...I now have a basic understanding of split. I have spent time re-reading the manual, info below and pondered... === Good for you, Don. Getting a grip on split operation will help you appreciate the genius of the design of

Re: [Elecraft] split pileup and listening was Pileups and KPA500/ST0R

2011-07-31 Thread goldtr8
Bob, I have never understood this whole split operation setup much less figuring out how to listen to someone working split and doing what you stated below. Would you please try and explain it to me.Others have tried but for some reason i just dont get it, or it wont sink in. I was on

Re: [Elecraft] split pileup and listening was Pileups and KPA500/ST0R

2011-07-31 Thread Mark Stennett
I have used this split technique quite successfully and the K3 makes it a breeze. The first secret is to wear your headphones. Put the K3 in split and you will hear the main receiver in your left ear while the right ear now has the sub receiver. Set up your filters to your liking. Listen on

Re: [Elecraft] split pileup and listening was Pileups and KPA500/ST0R

2011-07-31 Thread goldtr8
I dont have the two receivers so that is the first thing that puts me at a disadvantage. However, when someone is spotted and they say for example 2.4 UP, I assume that means something split. So if I listen on VFO A that would be their transmitt frq and I would transmitt on VFO B up 2.4 khz

Re: [Elecraft] split pileup and listening was Pileups and KPA500/ST0R

2011-07-31 Thread Mark Stennett
You can do this with RIT/XIT also but not as elegantly as with a second receiver running in split. You are correct in your assessment. On 07/31/2011 09:05 AM, gold...@charter.net wrote: I dont have the two receivers so that is the first thing that puts me at a disadvantage. However, when

Re: [Elecraft] split pileup and listening was Pileups and KPA500/ST0R

2011-07-31 Thread Don Wilhelm
Don, Using your example --- Yes, you put the K3 in split and move VFO B 2.4 kHz higher than VFO A. You should listen on your transmit frequency (he may not be listening exactly 2.4 kHz up), and you can do that by holding the REV button. 73, Don W3FPR On 7/31/2011 10:05 AM,

Re: [Elecraft] split pileup and listening was Pileups and KPA500/ST0R

2011-07-31 Thread Gerald Manthey
When I chased DX there was no split, we conserved bandwidth. Is there somewhere to see the split freq? Is it what the op wants? Is it limited to cw or ssb? Can someone explain it to me, I'm sure their are others wondering too. Thanks On Jul 31, 2011 9:16 AM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:

Re: [Elecraft] split pileup and listening was Pileups and KPA500/ST0R

2011-07-31 Thread Cady, Fred
Hi Don (et. al.) I put a fair amount of explanation of split operation in The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration and Operation. You can see some of it by going to http://www.ke7x.com/home/guide-to-the-k3/chapter-3-1 and scrolling down to section 3.2.10. Give it a try. It is very satisfying (at

Re: [Elecraft] split pileup and listening was Pileups and KPA500/ST0R

2011-07-31 Thread AB8XA
On Jul 31, 2011, at 10:13 AM, Mark Stennett wrote: You can do this with RIT/XIT also but not as elegantly as with a second receiver running in split. For the sake of those who don't understand that method… obviously, with one VFO and no split, we have no choice but to use RIT with the KX1.

Re: [Elecraft] split pileup and listening was Pileups and KPA500/ST0R

2011-07-31 Thread Wes Stewart
The first thing you need to do is live three or four skip zones closer to the DX so that you can say, Worked ST0R on the first call on six-meters using my wet string dipole and my K3 dialed down to only 10 watts...don't know why the rest of you are having so much trouble. Absent that, what

Re: [Elecraft] split pileup and listening was Pileups and KPA500/ST0R

2011-07-31 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Gerald, it seems that most DX uses split when it generates a pileup. That allows the calling stations to hear the DX stations even when some continue calling after DX station comes back to someone. In a perfect world everyone would listen before transmitting, but we are far from perfect.

Re: [Elecraft] split pileup and listening was Pileups and KPA500/ST0R

2011-07-31 Thread Tony Estep
...When I chased DX there was no split, we conserved bandwidth == This is a strange statement. I was licensed in 1958, and soon got interested in DX. In those days the DX columns of CQ and QST were filled with anguished pleas for stations to work split and never transmit on the DX

Re: [Elecraft] split pileup and listening was Pileups and KPA500/ST0R

2011-07-31 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
I normally operate my K2 and K3 exactly like I operated my separate transmitter and receiver pair in the past. I tune the RX to the frequency on which I plan to transmit. Zero beat with the TX, and transmit. With modern transceivers like the Elecraft rigs it's much, much faster and easier than

Re: [Elecraft] split pileup and listening was Pileups and KPA500/ST0R

2011-07-31 Thread N2TK, Tony
Mark, Very good advice. I normally run the bandwidth about 300HZ listening to the DX. But with the other VFO I open up the bandwidth to at least 1KHZ so I can tune around and more easily find the station the DX is working. After the DX works a few stations hopefully I get the feel of his/her

Re: [Elecraft] split pileup and listening was Pileups and KPA500/ST0R

2011-07-31 Thread gdaught6
Tony and others have advised... I can tune around and more easily find the station the DX is working. A sterling idea, but when the DX station is on the other side of the world, and hundreds are calling, there's very little chance I can locate the station he/she is working. I have a K3