Re: [Elecraft] CW Mistakes

2008-04-29 Thread Kevin Cozens
Greetings, Frank. Before I get on the air. What are some of the most common errors for beginning CW Operators. Thanks When starting down the road to learn morse, I would toss any sheet that shows the characters as a bunch of dots and dashes. You would be better off with a sheet that shows

RE: [Elecraft] CW Mistakes

2008-04-29 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Kevin VE3SYB wrote: An A isn't .- it is didah. A C isn't -.-. but dahdidahdit. - Absolutely! It's the sound that's important. Similar cautions are found in the earliest handbooks I have dating back to the 1930's. I suspect that's been so since the beginning of telegraphy.

Re: [Elecraft] CW Mistakes

2008-04-28 Thread WA6L
I think the biggest mistake is to worry about making mistakes. Just get out there and do it! Get on between 14.050 and 14.058 (or 7.050 - 7.058) and call CQ or answer a call. There are many slow-speed ops out there who are happy to talk to you and who will probably be making some mistakes

RE: [Elecraft] CW Mistakes

2008-04-28 Thread Darwin, Keith
-Original Message- I think the biggest mistake is to worry about making mistakes. Just get out there and do it! Get on between 14.050 and 14.058 (or 7.050 - 7.058) and call CQ or answer a call. There are many slow-speed ops out there who are happy to talk to you and who will probably

RE: [Elecraft] CW Mistakes

2008-04-28 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one! I cannot easily switch between paddles/keyer and bug unless I take special precautions when using the keyer. I built an Accu-Keyer in the 1970s because it was new and interesting. But the day came, twenty years later, when I set it aside for 99% of my

RE: [Elecraft] CW Mistakes

2008-04-27 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
I'd like to add to the list of big mistakes: Learning to translate dits and dahs into letters and other characters. Slow code encourages translation! ... Rich NU6T --- Is that a mistake for most Hams? It wasn't for me. I am aware of many ops

Re: [Elecraft] CW Mistakes

2008-04-27 Thread N2EY
In a message dated 4/26/08 11:43:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Learning to translate dits and dahs into letters and other characters. Slow code encourages translation! I think what you mean is counting - hearing H as four dits rather than a single sound-group.

RE: [Elecraft] CW Mistakes

2008-04-27 Thread N4OI
I began to learn code at 50 (now 56) and got my ticket about 5 years ago. It has been a LOT OF FUN! The longest transition was from writing everything down to copying in my head, but it was certainly worth the effort. I am typically operating at about 25 wpm but try to slow down to match a

Re: [Elecraft] CW Mistakes

2008-04-27 Thread David Cutter
An old friend, G4AYP, now SK used to listen to 40m cw just before going to sleep using his Norcal 40. He tried to follow French and Spanish stations and said it kept his brain alive and stimulated. He was UK Director of Forensic Science, so I don't think it was an idle statement. David

RE: [Elecraft] CW Mistakes

2008-04-27 Thread Dave Van Wallaghen
Ron, as usual, you have succinctly put into words a real life experience that I can see, may parallel some of my limited experience. I have followed this thread closely as well as the comments about using the Farnsworth method and based on some of the comments, thought OMG - I've been doing it

RE: [Elecraft] CW Mistakes

2008-04-27 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Ken wrote: I have no problem slowing down as much as necessary (below 10 wpm gets a little tedious though!) But I would sure appreciate being told to cool it rather than just having the rag chew cut short. - Oh, s--l--o--w CW sure gets tedious for me too, but it's normally

Re: [Elecraft] CW Mistakes

2008-04-26 Thread David Pratt
In a recent message, Frank MacDonell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ... Before I get on the air. What are some of the most common errors for beginning CW Operators. Thanks The biggest mistake, Frank, is not going on the air and having QSOs on the key. Once you have learnt the code alphabet go on

Re: [Elecraft] CW Mistakes

2008-04-26 Thread GW0ETF
Just one thing I can think of that hasn't already been mentioned:- ...Try to avoid the temptation of sending from a pre-written sheet of words; that way you send from your head just like speaking normally and inter-word spaces appear naturally. Sending from a sheet of words will probably cause

Re: [Elecraft] CW Mistakes

2008-04-26 Thread N2EY
In a message dated 4/25/08 8:08:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 2) Letting a self-important bad operator discourage you because he/she can't or won't QRS to your speed or tells you that you don't have the skills to get on CW, or to operate on a specific band. (I

RE: [Elecraft] CW Mistakes

2008-04-26 Thread Richard Hill
I'd like to add to the list of big mistakes: Learning to translate dits and dahs into letters and other characters. Slow code encourages translation! Learning code from a book or other visual source. (Not including learning about code from a book such as Pierpont: The Art Skill of Radio

Re: [Elecraft] CW Mistakes

2008-04-25 Thread John
At 04:26 PM 25/04/08, you wrote: Before I get on the air. What are some of the most common errors for beginning CW Operators. Thanks Hi Frank, No such things as CW errorsthe biggest error is not getting on. I've been at it for 50 years and still have problems. Some day maybe I'll be

RE: [Elecraft] CW Mistakes

2008-04-25 Thread DeniseWerner
, 2008 6:33 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW Mistakes At 04:26 PM 25/04/08, you wrote: Before I get on the air. What are some of the most common errors for beginning CW Operators. Thanks Hi Frank, No such things as CW errorsthe biggest error is not getting on. I've

Re: [Elecraft] CW Mistakes

2008-04-25 Thread Eric Fairbank
Failure to zero-beat when answering a call. This is one that many veteran's also fail on. Once you get the hang of it, you can easily and quickly get within 10 cycles of the other station. Eric N3EF --- On Fri, 4/25/08, Frank MacDonell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Frank MacDonell

Re: [Elecraft] CW Mistakes

2008-04-25 Thread n4lq
Frank Is you question related to errors am Elecraft rig in CW mode or CW in general? It seems like a rather vague question. Of course this is generating a lot of answers. Steve Ellington [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Frank MacDonell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

RE: [Elecraft] CW Mistakes

2008-04-25 Thread NZ8J
Frank, One of the biggest mistakes I've seen over the years is new operators trying to send too fast, in other words much faster than you can comfortably copy. Most cw operators will try to answer a CQ at (or close to) the speed at which it is sent. If you try to send too fast the other op will

RE: [Elecraft] CW Mistakes

2008-04-25 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
That's not always possible, which is why I consider it the mark of a good operator to tune around the frequency after calling CQ. The numbers are not great compared to the other rigs, but there are a significant number of crystal controlled rigs out there: solid state and tube type. Ron AC7AC

RE: [Elecraft] CW Mistakes

2008-04-25 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Yep, there are no mistakes bigger than: 1) Being afraid to get on. 2) Letting a self-important bad operator discourage you because he/she can't or won't QRS to your speed or tells you that you don't have the skills to get on CW, or to operate on a specific band. (I worked a guy who told me he

Re: [Elecraft] CW Mistakes

2008-04-25 Thread N2EY
In a message dated 4/25/08 6:27:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What are some of the most common errors for beginning CW Operators. WELCOME! In no particular order: 1) Not getting on the air. While it is a good idea to do some practice off-air and get some basic

Re: [Elecraft] CW Mistakes

2008-04-25 Thread Sandy
which is, by the waystill very useful in spite of it's antiquity! 73, Sandy W5TVW - Original Message - From: Ron D'Eau Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Frank MacDonell' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 7:02 PM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] CW Mistakes

Re: [Elecraft] CW Mistakes

2008-04-25 Thread WA7CS
Practice a bit with a partner, or a recording device. It is very important to get the spacing between elements, letters, and words correct. A bad fist will not attract as many QSOs as a good one. Sloppy sending, or a fist with too much swing is a genuine pain to copy. A good fist is a thing