Re: [Elecraft] OT: math question

2005-03-31 Thread AD5MA
ng it is driven with enough input signal) and will have 13 dB of gain. Al. - Original Message - From: "S55M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: math question &

Re: [Elecraft] OT: math question

2005-03-30 Thread David A.Belsley
Well, Bill, my first answer of zero feet width is, in fact, a correct answer, albeit rather degenerate. It was an answer that came immediately to mind. However, there is a nondegenerate answer, which is approximately 12.3119 feet. best wishes, dave belsley, w1euy That can't be right. Dra

Re: [Elecraft] OT: math question

2005-03-30 Thread Thom R. Lacosta
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, S55M wrote: Yes math is beautifull (callculating needed space for 3d antennas HI. But google can spare some time and paper. :) http://home.att.net/~numericana/answer/algebra.htm#quartic ANd now I know why my daughters always hated math, and why I never passed the test to

Re: [Elecraft] OT: math question

2005-03-30 Thread Larry Phipps
For convenience, Mini-Circuits has a nice printable conversion table at http://www.mini-circuits.com/dg03-110.pdf Larry N8LP Tom Hammond wrote: At 12:01 PM 3/30/05, you wrote: How would one calculate the amplifier gain (in dB) required to go from one power level to another? For exampl

Re: [Elecraft] OT: math question

2005-03-30 Thread Tom Hammond
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: math question At 12:01 PM 3/30/05, you wrote: How would one calculate the amplifier gain (in dB) required to go from one power level to another? For example from 5W to 100W. 10 log(P2/P1) = 10 log(100/5) = 10 log(20) = 1

Re: [Elecraft] OT: math question

2005-03-30 Thread Able2fly
That can't be right. Drawing it (roughly) on paper shows it to be around 13 feet wide, give or take a foot or so. But coming up with a precise equation takes more math skills than high school left me with... Bill K3UJ In a message dated 3/30/

Re: [Elecraft] OT: math question

2005-03-30 Thread David A.Belsley
I'll go with an alley of zero width. best wishes, dave belsley, w1euy On Mar 30, 2005, at 3:22 PM, Dan Barker wrote: I ran into a brain-teaser once, that had me baffled for hours (I won't say how many). Finally, I called my sister, the Rocket Scientist ("actually, we're not _Rocket_ scienti

RE: [Elecraft] OT: math question

2005-03-30 Thread Charles Mabbott
I like simple, 10Db gain will go from 5 to 50Watts; 3Db more will double 50 to 100 Watts. Approximately 13 Db -- 73 Chuck AA8VS www.aa8vs.org/aa8vs FP #113 MI-QRP #1212 SOC #445 Firebird #2117 TSARC #3952 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Beh

Re: [Elecraft] OT: math question

2005-03-30 Thread Andrea Borgia
James C. Hall, MD wrote: Hmmm ... never seen square root as O with dot-dot on top. Right, they should have printed it as dah-dah-dah-dit ;-P Sorry, couldn't resist this one 8-) B73, Andrea. -- Homepage: http://andrea.borgia.bo.it /Amateur radio: IZ4FHT ___

RE: [Elecraft] OT: math question

2005-03-30 Thread James C. Hall, MD
Hmmm ... never seen square root as O with dot-dot on top. Jamie WB4YDL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of S55M Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 2:47 PM To: Elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: math question Yes math is beautifull

Re: [Elecraft] OT: math question

2005-03-30 Thread AD5MA
feet. Al. - Original Message - From: "Dan Barker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Elecraft" Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 2:22 PM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] OT: math question > I ran into a brain-teaser once, that had me baffled for hours (I won&#

Re: [Elecraft] OT: math question

2005-03-30 Thread S55M
;Elecraft" Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:22 PM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] OT: math question > I ran into a brain-teaser once, that had me baffled for hours (I won't say > how many). Finally, I called my sister, the Rocket Scientist ("actually, > we're not _Rocket_

RE: [Elecraft] OT: math question

2005-03-30 Thread Dan Barker
I ran into a brain-teaser once, that had me baffled for hours (I won't say how many). Finally, I called my sister, the Rocket Scientist ("actually, we're not _Rocket_ scientists" - That's a quote from her husband) and asked her. She and Paul spent a few minutes on the problem, figured it out, but

Re: [Elecraft] OT: math question

2005-03-30 Thread Tom Hammond
At 12:01 PM 3/30/05, you wrote: How would one calculate the amplifier gain (in dB) required to go from one power level to another? For example from 5W to 100W. 10 log(P2/P1) = 10 log(100/5) = 10 log(20) = 10 (1.30103) = 13.0103dB An easy 'rule of thumb' way to get a good idea of such levels i

Re: [Elecraft] OT: math question

2005-03-30 Thread thom2
. > Why dBm? Because dBm is power related to 1mW=0dBm . > > S55M-Adi > > > - Original Message - > From: "W3FPR - Don Wilhelm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 8:23 PM > Subject: RE: [Elecraft] OT: mat

Re: [Elecraft] OT: math question

2005-03-30 Thread K6TFZ
In a message dated 3/30/2005 10:02:44 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How would one calculate the amplifier gain (in dB) required to go from one power level to another? For example from 5W to 100W. The formula is: dB = 10 log (P2 / P1) P2 / P1 = 100 / 5 = 20

Re: [Elecraft] OT: math question

2005-03-30 Thread S55M
ssage - From: "W3FPR - Don Wilhelm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 8:23 PM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] OT: math question > dB = 10 log (P2/P1) > For your example of 5 watts to 100 watts, is an increase of 13.01029996 dB -

RE: [Elecraft] OT: math question

2005-03-30 Thread W3FPR - Don Wilhelm
dB = 10 log (P2/P1) For your example of 5 watts to 100 watts, is an increase of 13.01029996 dB - pardon the rounding but that is all the digits my calculator shows :>). 73, Don W3FPR > -Original Message- > > How would one calculate the amplifier gain (in dB) required to go > from one > po