Re: [Elecraft] Power Measurement Question

2009-05-09 Thread Don Wilhelm
Bob, The answer is - It all depends ... -- read on if you want the rest of the story. I constantly rely on the RF voltage produced across a known accurate 50 ohm resistor for my power measurement calculations, so that is the method I depend on. The W1 is quite accurate, but there is one

RE: [Elecraft] Power Measurement

2006-11-07 Thread Don Wilhelm
Ed, Yes, the formula in the DL1 manual is off a bit - there was some discussion about that on the reflector about 6 months ago. As I calculate, the correct formula is P(watts)=(1.414(V(volts)+0.15))^2/50 Or easier expressed as P=2(V+0.15)^2/50 (I am not certain why the square root of 2 (1.414)

Re: [Elecraft] Power Measurement

2006-11-07 Thread Larry Phipps
Larry Phipps wrote: You can also fine tune the formula based on DC measurement of the resistance of the bottom half of the load. The formula assumes an exact 25.0 ohms for the bottom half of the load. Also, measure the resistance at the temperature you will be using for testing. You can

RE: [Elecraft] Power Measurement - Where am I wrong?

2005-02-22 Thread W3FPR - Don Wilhelm
Fran, You have the calculations correct - I use Vp-p^2/400 all the time for a 50 ohm load. I use the 'scope probe connected directly across the dummy load (the 'scope probe has a short grounding lead). It is quite unlikely that the power output really climbs with power, so there must be

Re: [Elecraft] Power Measurement - Where am I wrong?

2005-02-22 Thread Francis Belliveau
All, Thanks to all who answered me either direct or on the list. Based upon the answers I would guess that I need to pay better attention to lead length. I did not make any attempts to keep things short. I will also think about Ron's suggestion to bypass the KAT2. I'll post the final results

RE: [Elecraft] Power Measurement - Where am I wrong?

2005-02-21 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Yes, you have the right formula, Fran. Power = (Vpk-pk)^2/8R Where R is the load resistance. It is *not* frequency sensitive, but hardware often is. Either your scope probe is not properly frequency-compensated or your load is not a good, solid 50 ohm non-reactive dummy load. Note that it's