Re: [Elecraft] Noise, RFI ?

2014-02-20 Thread g8kbvdave
PLT/PLA and something (Smart TV?) using it to do an update? http://www.ban-plt.org.uk/what.php What it is http://www.ban-plt.org.uk/tests.php Some EMC test results. Graphic! Lots of other good info on that site. No affiliation whatosever. 73. Dave G0WBX. --- Original Message

Re: [Elecraft] Noise, RFI ?

2014-02-20 Thread Jim Brown
On 2/19/2014 7:48 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: My neighbors with the PTV are very busy, gone a lot, and while he understands what his TV does to my reception, I acknowledge his right to have that TV. He has a right to HAVE it, but not to cause interference to you when he turns it on. Yes, Part

Re: [Elecraft] Noise, RFI ?

2014-02-20 Thread Phil Hystad
Jim (and others)... From all the suggestions of the RFI, these are those that rank on the top of the list but the list below is not ordered in any way. 1. Some tool or machine operated by a neighbor or maybe even a construction/contractor guy working at a neighbor's house (really fits the use

Re: [Elecraft] Noise, RFI ?

2014-02-20 Thread Phil Wheeler
Drat, you left out 4. Old-time Luddite ham operating a rotary spark gap rig :-) 73, Phil w7ox (No, I'm not *that* old -- quite!) On 2/20/14, 10:25 AM, Phil Hystad wrote: Jim (and others)... From all the suggestions of the RFI, these are those that rank on the top of the list but the list

Re: [Elecraft] Noise, RFI ?

2014-02-19 Thread tom armour
I get this type of noise when my wife uses a laminator. I also get a lot of sporadic noise in the morning around the time people get up which I assume are hair driers and curling irons. It really could be anything, but probably something one of your neighbors has. Good luck finding it, if

Re: [Elecraft] Noise, RFI ?

2014-02-19 Thread Matt Zilmer
One of the items that many overlook is in-freezer ice makers. They can make a lot of broadband noise when the heater is running. Yes - heater. Once the ice cubes are frozen they need to be ejected. In order to do this smoothly, the tray is heated up just enough to let the cubes pop loose. The

Re: [Elecraft] Noise, RFI ?

2014-02-19 Thread Phil Hystad
Matt, Well, then that source of this RFI is ruled out. Ice maker is off and I don't think it has been on in years -- it may not even work anymore. About the only time we might need ice is when we have a party of some sort (which is also rare) that needs ice and we just buy a bag down at the

Re: [Elecraft] Noise, RFI ?

2014-02-19 Thread mcduffie
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 10:15:42 -0800, Phil Hystad wrote: Anyone have ideas of the cause. The first thing to look at is your own house, of course. If you can very temporarily power your radio from a battery, even a UPS (but not one you are currently using, just to make sure that isn't the

Re: [Elecraft] Noise, RFI ?

2014-02-19 Thread Phil Wheeler
From your message this sounds like a new one you've not heard before. If so, let's hope it's temporary so you won't have to locate it. If new, unlikely your house or some large facility. If new and persistent, could be a neighbor has a new TV or appliance -- or the hospital with some new

Re: [Elecraft] Noise, RFI ?

2014-02-19 Thread Vic Rosenthal K2VCO
Me too, as high as possible. Gets rid of a massive amount of clicks and transmitted phase noise! Sorry, couldn't resist. On 2/19/2014 12:43 PM, mcduf...@ag0n.net wrote: My favorite trick is to toss a small radio like a IC706 up -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/

Re: [Elecraft] Noise, RFI ?

2014-02-19 Thread Phil Wheeler
Just be careful it doesn't land on your head: The 706 is not what I would call a small radio. Better to use a KX1 (had to get an Elecraft rig into this to make it On Topic) :-) 73, Phil w7ox On 2/19/14, 1:25 PM, Vic Rosenthal K2VCO wrote: Me too, as high as possible. Gets rid of a massive

Re: [Elecraft] Noise, RFI ?

2014-02-19 Thread Phil Hystad
It is hard to describe this noise because it lacks any features at all. Think of atmospherics, like background noise that usually sits around S0 to S1 on the S-meter, more on 80 meters in the evening. That sort of thing. Now, make that noise a solid (no changes, no peaks, no features,

Re: [Elecraft] Noise, RFI ?

2014-02-19 Thread Bill W2BLC
Based on my past experience - I would be thinking an arc welder (or wire or some such similar). If not that, then you might want to check for carbon trails on HV insulators along the road (usually very effected by the weather). As a third guess - and a worst case scenario - a serious problem

Re: [Elecraft] Noise, RFI ?

2014-02-19 Thread Phil Kane
On 2/19/2014 2:23 PM, Bill W2BLC wrote: If not that, then you might want to check for carbon trails on HV insulators along the road (usually very effected by the weather). When we suspected a power line leak, the noise was usually continuous, not intermittent.To verify which pole it came

Re: [Elecraft] Noise, RFI ?

2014-02-19 Thread Phil Wheeler
How do you recommend he go about eliminating the latter, which appears to be a nearby neighbor? ;-) 73, Phil w7ox -- K2#380, K1#18, K3/P3 shipping this week :-) On 2/19/14, 2:23 PM, Bill W2BLC wrote: Based on my past experience - I would be thinking an arc welder (or wire or some such

Re: [Elecraft] Noise, RFI ?

2014-02-19 Thread Phil Hystad
All of our electricity comes out of the ground. Everything is underground here except for a few poles a number of blocks away. I have heard that kind of noise before from insulators (dirt, carbon, etc.) and this is definitely not that. Besides, that would just not have this exact on off

Re: [Elecraft] Noise, RFI ?

2014-02-19 Thread Ray Sills
I'm beginning to like that arc welder theory. 73 de Ray K2ULR On Feb 19, 2014, at 5:48 PM, Phil Hystad wrote: All of our electricity comes out of the ground. Everything is underground here except for a few poles a number of blocks away. I have heard that kind of noise before from

Re: [Elecraft] Noise, RFI ?

2014-02-19 Thread Fred Jensen
I can't tell you what it is, but I can describe a few things for you: Neighbor has a plasma TV. The noise is very broad and at low P3 spans looks just solid as you describe. With a 200 KHz span, you can clearly see the changing video, it's very apparent. Plasma TV's radiate off the screen,

Re: [Elecraft] Noise, RFI ?

2014-02-19 Thread Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
In my case, I walked next door and explained that his Plasma TV was interfering with my radio reception. I then asked him to come to my shack to see what the problem was. I showed him the signal from the PTV on my monitor which is connected to the P3 and asked if we could go to his home and turn

Re: [Elecraft] Noise, RFI ?

2014-02-19 Thread riese-k3djc
I had local power line noise so Send a letter / form you can download from the ARRL to both CalTran and the FCC local office you will get results,, send to the in charge office of caltran spend a buck and use USPS ceritfied letter with a return rcpt it works Bob K3DJC My current noise source

Re: [Elecraft] Noise, RFI ?

2014-02-19 Thread Phil Wheeler
So how did he eliminate the noise from the PTV? Phil w7ox On 2/19/14, 3:57 PM, Amateur Radio Operator N5GE wrote: In my case, I walked next door and explained that his Plasma TV was interfering with my radio reception. I then asked him to come to my shack to see what the problem was. I

Re: [Elecraft] Noise, RFI ?

2014-02-19 Thread Ray Sills
Maybe he took it back to the store where he purchased it and got a refund. That would be the best outcome. 73 de Ray K2ULR On Feb 19, 2014, at 7:22 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote: So how did he eliminate the noise from the PTV? Phil w7ox

Re: [Elecraft] Noise, RFI ?

2014-02-19 Thread Matt Zilmer
I suggest you contact your electric utility. Most utiltiies have a power quality department, and in general the staff are *very* well equipped and trained to locate RF noise if it's on their system. Some utilities call this their Amateur Radio division or department. Years ago, I had symptoms

Re: [Elecraft] Noise, RFI ?

2014-02-19 Thread Bill W2BLC
My experience in Virginia and in New York was excellent with the power companies. Their quality control section had a couple of hams as team members - meaning we all spoke the same language. It might pay to ask if any team members are hams. Utility companies are loath to electricity loss,

Re: [Elecraft] Noise, RFI ?

2014-02-19 Thread Fred Jensen
On 2/19/2014 3:57 PM, Amateur Radio Operator N5GE wrote: I then asked him if he was experiencing interference from my radio transmitter, to which he replied no. Problem solved. Ummm ... and how? This is the conundrum [or maybe fallacy] in Part 15. Unsuspecting and un-knowledgable