Of course, you were referring to the fact that us types worked on old time
computers, not that we are old time ourselves.
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From: Douglas Westover [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Amazing the number of old time computer types on the reflector!
73,
Doug
W6JD
I bet they kicked up a stink about that rule.
I understand, for safety reasons, the Farragut Amateur Radio
Transmitting Society was forbidden using spark equipment.
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Doug
W6JD
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From: Kevin Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Robert McGwier [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Elecraft Mail
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Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 2:04 PM
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I never was a Vaxen. I've worked with dozens of operating systems
I just got back in town from a Long Weekend at the Visalia DX convention. Looks
like we've had a lot of emails on the list this weekend! (It always seems to
happen when I'm off line..)
In any case, lets end this non-K1/K2/T1 etc OT thread for now to relieve the
email pressure on others ;-)
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Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 11:34 AM
To: Robert McGwier; Elecraft Mail; Kevin Rock
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Now that we know
Jeeez, all you guys are just kids! I cut my teeth on an IBM 650 as a
Stanford undergrad. OS
I never was a Vaxen. I've worked with dozens of operating systems over
the years but not that one. I live in a cloistered world mostly writing
my own software to go with the wire wrapped CPU and memory card kluge
works I have as boxes :) One day I may try VMS and see what I've been
missing.
Heh, another thing that I've seen happen quite frequently is the
re-invention of terms for many many common computer and network concepts
as the technology hits parts of the general population that have had no
introduction to prior terms. I was recently asked to join a friend's
yahoo
The first use of Exploder I know was the TI Explorer Lisp Machine, which
was licensed from MIT in about 1981. People called them the TI
Exploder. TI was the third licensee after Symbolics (the first .com
domain ever) and LMI, and they built variatoins of the MIT CADR Lisp
Machines.
There
We have Powell's Books in Portland. I rarely go to the big store but hang
out in the Technical book store. There is a shelf of 'old' computers.
There are only two I have not written software for, built, or rebuilt.
The memories are good ones but I realize the kids working the store were
Aha, you are using VMS then! NT is VMS: DEC sent David Cutler to
Microsoft to write a new OS for the Alpha. MSFT put the WIN16 and later
WIN32 API on top, but it's very much like VMS inside.
On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 3:04 pm, Kevin Rock wrote:
My current OS is Win2K. The splash screen says it was
I thought it was all CP/M underneath ;) Now the latest Mac OS is Linux
underneath with Apple's APIs stapled on top. Is there nothing new under
the sun?
On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 15:09:50 -0700, Leigh L Klotz, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Aha, you are using VMS then! NT is VMS: DEC sent David
Kevin wrote:
The memories are good ones but I realize the kids working
the store were not born when those computers were first
considered obsolete.
I spent many a happy evening with Ga. Tech's Univac 1108 scientific mainframe
35 years ago, and their older but clever stack machine known as
Today, we are most of us computer appliance operators, who learn
application programs, but know little about the hardware and firmware
beneath the application.
Well, there are folks who build wonderful pianos. There are very talented
piano tuners.
And then there are very fine piano players.
I
On Monday 18 April 2005 17:45, Robert Tellefsen wrote:
Well, there are folks who build wonderful pianos. There are very
talented piano tuners.
And then there are very fine piano players.
I think of myself as a piano player :-)
73, Bob N6WG
Never thought of it that way. I like your
On Apr 17, 2005, at 6:04 PM, Kevin Rock wrote:
My current OS is Win2K.
Boy, Kevin, you'd think in all those years you could have gotten
further than that.
best wishes,
dave belsley, w1euy
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On Monday 18 April 2005 17:45, Robert Tellefsen wrote:
Well, there are folks who build wonderful pianos. There are very
talented piano tuners.
And then there are very fine
Walking down memory lane here...
I started on an IBM 1620 writing Fortran in the late 60's. You first had to
punch the source cards/deck then load the compiler deck then run the source
deck. It output to an object deck (card punch). You then ran an absolute
loader then loaded the object deck
I feel that way about my car. I have no desire to get under the hood let
alone under the chassis. Motorcycles yes, four wheeled vehicles no.
Computers are a different matter. I enjoy building, programming, and
using my own or other's software to get them to perform.
Thus I can build the
Did you know you can tune a piano but you can't tune a fish
I couldn't help it. :-[
Lou - W6UR
K2/100 #3578
Kevin Rock wrote:
I feel that way about my car. I have no desire to get under the hood
let alone under the chassis. Motorcycles yes, four wheeled vehicles
no. Computers are a
You guys bring up memories. I think I was a bit behind you. My first
experience at school was with an IBM 360 at the Univ. of Mich., running
a proprietary language known as MAD (Michigan Algorith Decoder), plus
the usual COBOL/SNOBOL/Fortran, etc. I remember punch cards and batch
output
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Kevin wrote:
The memories are good ones but I realize the kids working
the store were not born when those computers were first
considered
Forth Love ? IF Honk :)
On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 17:36:48 -0500 (GMT-05:00), Mike Morrow
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Honk if you love JCL!
73,
Mike / KK5F
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On Apr 17, 2005, at 6:27 PM, Kevin Rock wrote:
I thought it was all CP/M underneath ;) Now the latest Mac OS is
Linux underneath with Apple's APIs stapled on top. Is there nothing
new under the sun?
The latest MacOS (MacOS X has been out of 4 years now) has Unix
underneath. Not
According to IBM (big Add in Computerworld, when NT came out after Big Blue
and Uncle Billy split over OS/2), in HUGE LETTERS, they proclaimed it meant
Nice Try.
Dan / WG4S / K2 #2456
snip
I thought NT meant New Technology?
/snip
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I can carry a briefcase but I can't carry a tune...
Did you know you can tune a piano but you can't tune a fish
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Kevin Rock wrote:
Forth Love ? IF Honk :)
Er, I think Forth Love = IF Honk
The definition of ? is
: ? @ . ;
And of course, we need a simple TTY honk:
: Honk 7 emit 1 0 DO LOOP ;
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Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco
You are correct Vic. I should have defined Love? But then if you look in
the OED love takes a whole bunch of pages!
A loop of 10,000 honks may be a bit excessive however ;)
Kevin.
On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 19:43:44 -0700, Vic Rosenthal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kevin Rock wrote:
Forth
I understand, for safety reasons, the Farragut Amateur Radio
Transmitting Society was forbidden using spark equipment.
dave belsley, w1euy
On Apr 17, 2005, at 10:16 PM, Stephen W. Kercel wrote:
Craig:
Funny you should mention that. In Tennessee, between Knoxville and Oak
Ridge there is a
A prudent precaution.
Steve
AA4AK
At 11:09 PM 4/17/2005 -0400, you wrote:
I understand, for safety reasons, the Farragut Amateur Radio Transmitting
Society was forbidden using spark equipment.
dave belsley, w1euy
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Good grief guys, Eric is going to go ape when he sees us writing code on
his Reflector now you want it to be perfect? It was supposed to be a
bumper sticker not an app ;)
: Honk 7 EMIT ;
: Cheers Forth Love? IF 10 0 DO Honk LOOP THEN ;
Funny thing about Forth is it is very close to assembly
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