This was on the Tower Talk reflector. Note a nice shack photo on his
web page.
73, Jim K9YC
Forwarded Message
De Tom, AK4EH,
I sincerely hope my request is not overbearing for you at this time. After a
great deal of
Maybe it's just me, but after the first couple of sentences all I can
hear in my head is SCAM! Run!!!
On 12/12/2014 8:38 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
This was on the Tower Talk reflector. Note a nice shack photo on his
web page.
73, Jim K9YC
Forwarded Message
De Tom,
Where do you even get a hint that this is a Scam! I mean, guys offer up things
for sale all the time and the sales are successfully completed all the time. I
see nothing in this posting that suggests anything other than what the author
claims: failing health forcing the sale of ham radio
From the very first sentence of the forwarded message: I sincerely
hope my request is not overbearing for you at this time.
I meant no disrespect to K9YC. He probably jumped to the list of items
for sale and didn't really read the first paragraph. From the subject,
it applies to this list,
His address checks out on the FCC database. He also offers to allow
prospective buyers to not only see but also operate the equipment - with
proof of license: Interested parties must show their license and
enter call sign, operation times/modes/freq’s in my logbook.
I'd say he's legit - take
I agree that the text style is suspicious. Anyone interested can Google
the address and view the street side photos. It does not verify the
seller but there does appear to be some ham radio antennas on the
property. Plus the call sign lookup corresponds with the address. The
phone number is a
Seems a bit off to me, too. He calls the K3 a
K-3 and the P3 a P-3 -- but at his listing in
qrz.com they are K3 and P3. It's like the ad was
not written by the purported seller, AK4EH. And
then there is the first sentence.
Not to say it's a scam; but there is something
unusual going on.
Could be, but not too many scammers would invite you to come operate the
equipment in his home.
Eric
KE6US
On 12/12/2014 9:23 AM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote:
Maybe it's just me, but after the first couple of sentences all I can
hear in my head is SCAM! Run!!!
On 12/12/2014 8:38 AM, Jim
It just begins in a older formal style that happens to have been
adopted to the infamous Nigerian scammers. That doesn't mean that it
was created by the same process.
On the Internet, as in our day-to-day lives, people often focus on
details while missing the larger context. Similarly, they often
I'd say SCAM. Sounds like the 'seller' has somehow gained access to
this property and so is willing to offer the 'come and test' option.
Makes the scam all the more convincing.
If anyone on the list knows the real AK4EH they should get in touch
with him and verify. He may be in the
On Fri,12/12/2014 11:31 AM, Phil Wheeler wrote:
Not to say it's a scam; but there is something unusual going on.
You guys sure are suspicious, and with no good reason. Look at his
qrz.com listing, and read the first paragraphs of his email. I read it
as a guy who is quite stressed about his
Being suspicious is one thing but to impinge the reputation of someone
(especially someone you don't even know) without the slightest bit of evidence
is wrong. In fact, it is demeaning to this ham radio community in my opinion.
Someone posted evidence as writing K-3 and P-3 instead of K3 and
Pardon me, Phil, but please read better before you
erupt.
I said Not to say it's a scam; but there is
something unusual going on. Please note the Not.
Unusual yes; if you read his bio in at qrx.com the
text style is totally different than in the ad,
which I seriously doubt was written by
Why wouldn't they?
If someone tries to take them up on the offer, they can give some excuse
(like already sold).
If someone sees that as a sign that it's legitimate, and sends payment,
then it's a win for the scammer.
Remember that it costs very little for a scammer to do something like
Phil,
OK. I still say that to reference the K-3 versus K3 is flimsy at best and
definitely not suspicious or that unusual. The message very well may be
written by someone else. If the person is poor health (and, may have to move
to assisted living) having someone else write for him who is
It is fascinating how seemingly benign reflector subjects can contain
unstable hidden fissionable material ;o)
73 Joe K2UF
-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil
Hystad
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 3:43 PM
To: Phil Wheeler
Cc:
Hi Again, Lynn:
OK.. now that you pointed out the phraseology of the message... it is
rather stilted, compared to how most of us would express the same
thing. In any event, I'm sure most of us would be careful. I'd ask
things like, where did you buy the MFJ Antenna analyzer.. or some
I agree completely.
The question isn't one of impinging the reputation of AK4EH, but
pointing out that it seems likely that AK4EH (or anyone associated with
him) isn't the one behind the posting.
The same is true of everyone who cross-posted the message.
I could probably pick any name and
Well,
I just verified the phone number as being a wireless line in the city of
Crestview, Florida, which the city of AK4EH...
And, his QRZ page is listing some of the same equipment for sale as listed in
the message posted by Jim. He even spelled K3 without the hyphen. I am
thinking that he
Has this not reached the end of its usefulness, if indeed, it ever was? It's
certainly wasting my (expensive) bandwidth here in C6.
73 de John, 9H5G
On Dec 12, 2014, at 3:34 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
k...@coldrockshotbrooms.com wrote:
Why wouldn't they?
If someone tries to take them
Yeaythanks Phil for confirming a genuine sale.
Now maybe some well intentioned ham will purchase the station and bring
some relief to a fellow ham facing perhaps a very difficult future.
Gary
Vk1ZZ
K3, KX3, KPA500-FT, KAT500-FT,P3.
On 13/12/2014 7:42 AM, Phil Hystad phys...@mac.com wrote:
One can only hope...:-)
Gary
Vk1ZZ
K3, KX3, KPA500-FT, KAT500-FT,P3.
On 13/12/2014 7:45 AM, John, 9H5G kk4...@gmail.com wrote:
Has this not reached the end of its usefulness, if indeed, it ever was?
It's certainly wasting my (expensive) bandwidth here in C6.
73 de John, 9H5G
On Dec 12,
Regardless of all the arguments about the potential for a scam, the
final message should be proceed with eyes wide open.
Nick
N1KMP
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On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 3:44 AM, Ian White gm3...@ifwtech.co.uk wrote:
That list would be a reasonable 'industry-wide benchmark' for the
keying/timing modes that a premium CW transceiver like the K3 should
offer as built-in options.
/rant mode on/
[Medical warning: delete this message now
As a 6 month Elecrafter (k3+p3) I have never seen any discussion nor requests
for a legal limit compatible Elecraft amplifier with the seamless attributes of
the kpa500 . It would seem that the now extablished 1000 w devices could form
the basis for a commercially viable amplifier. Perhaps no
Well said, thank you!
Bill W2BLC K-Line
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I realize that this topic has been beaten to death, but I wouldlike to point
out one factoid. Down here in Florida - I'm down inthe southeastern part, and
AK4EH is way up in the Panhandle -there have been a number of instances in
which homeownerswere unpleasantly surprised to discover that
I'd be a buyer.
Rich - N5ZC
On 12/12/2014 6:17 PM, CenturyLink Customer wrote:
As a 6 month Elecrafter (k3+p3) I have never seen any discussion nor requests for a legal
limit compatible Elecraft amplifier with the seamless attributes of the kpa500 . It would
seem that the now extablished
So how do we resolve this? Anyone live close enough to visit? Might a letter to
AK4EH alert him to our concern? Other options?
Nick
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It's my understanding that Elecraft did indeed have such an amplifier on
display at Dayton a few years ago. I don't recall the reason it wasn't
brought to market.
73
Ken Kopp - K0PP
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A 1.5 KW, RTTY capable 160 - 6 Meter Amp, WITH an Antenna Tuner AND priced
around $5K would sell like hotcakes.
As long as you don't try to recoup all the RD costs on the first
hundred you could
have another Heath SB-220 !!
73 es HH, Dick, W1KSZ
On 12/12/2014 6:20 PM, Ken G Kopp wrote:
Ken -
They had two, the KPA800 and the KPA1600. There was some problem with
meeting FCC specs with the higher power version, as I remember, but the
bottom line was in fact the bottom line - they were not convinced they
could sell enough of them to recoup costs.
Even then the projected
Well, for one thing, if he bought his K-line new Elecraft should be able to
verify that much. I would think that other hams who live in that area and
know him could confirm or deny whether this is a legitimate posting.
Per one of Jim K9YC's follow ups the original post to Tower Talk was by
As others have mentioned, there were two amps built and put on display a number
of years
ago. One was legal limit and I think the other was about half that (I remember
more than the
current 500 Watt KPA500 though).
I probably would never spend the money for a full legal limit solid-state amp
Other issues, too. For example, not all of us have
240 VAC available in our shacks -- at least I
don't. And I suspect such an amp would want the
higher line voltage.
Phil W7OX
On 12/12/14 6:06 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:
As others have mentioned, there were two amps built and put on display a
And I suspect such an amp would want the higher line voltage.
It's not a matter of wanting a higher line voltage ... you simply
can't pull enough current through a typical 120V circuit to provide
enough power for a 1600W *output* amplifier. Such an amplifier is
going to need about 4 KVA or
Done!
This is an elecraft list, not one for solving all this injustices in the world
or anything else. I'm done here and perhaps when a moderator wakes up and is
prepared to moderate all this junk I'll subscribe again.
If you wanted a lesson in how to reduce a valuable resource to worthless,
Count me in
On 12/12/2014 6:58 PM, Richard Thorne wrote:
I'd be a buyer.
Rich - N5ZC
On 12/12/2014 6:17 PM, CenturyLink Customer wrote:
As a 6 month Elecrafter (k3+p3) I have never seen any discussion nor
requests for a legal limit compatible Elecraft amplifier with the
seamless
I have in the past suggested a 1500 watt amplifier constructed in 500 watt
modules.
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 6:50 PM, Gary K9GS garyk...@wi.rr.com wrote:
Count me in
On 12/12/2014 6:58 PM, Richard Thorne wrote:
I'd be a buyer.
Rich - N5ZC
On 12/12/2014 6:17 PM, CenturyLink Customer
A Troika? Interesting concept.
Phil W7OX
On 12/12/14 6:57 PM, Bob wrote:
I have in the past suggested a 1500 watt amplifier constructed in 500 watt
modules.
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 6:50 PM, Gary K9GS garyk...@wi.rr.com wrote:
Count me in
On 12/12/2014 6:58 PM, Richard Thorne wrote:
I'd
Platinum-clad hotcakes, perhaps.
On the other hand, they could work with a well-respected manufacturer to make
an “Elecraft Edition” amp that was tightly coupled.
Either way, out of my price range.
wunder
K6WRU
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On Dec 12, 2014, at 5:45 PM, Richard
Check the ACOM website. They have a setup that uses a hybrid coupler to
parallel 3 of their ACOM 2000A amplifiers. I know from experience that
an ACOM 2000A will deliver about 2300 watts forward power before it
kicks off on excess grid current. It would do more if the guard circuit
was
My scamdar is on high alert. The offer itself seems benign but there is
something just not right. I will bet that when you get into the
details, this will get fishier and fishier. Someone got just enough
information to seem legitimate. The offer to see the equipment will
never occur for
Can we let this one go?
If your interested in what he has, give him a call and work it out.
If you aren't sure, then move on.
Many thanks!
Mike va3mw
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:05 PM, K4ia via Elecraft
elecraft@mailman.qth.net wrote:
My scamdar is on high alert. The offer itself seems
Decided to make the move.
I am looking for a K3 in the Northern Illinois / Southern Wisconsin area.
Frank KG9H
kg9hfr...@gmail.com
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On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Bob rtk...@gmail.com wrote:
I have in the past suggested a 1500 watt amplifier constructed in 500 watt
modules.
A while back someone talked about a way to put three KPA 500's (or two) in
parallel and still force equal power out of the individual amps. Buy
On Fri,12/12/2014 10:00 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
Two
stations with only one S-unit difference headed to the antennas will always
come down to antenna systems and operators.
Several comments. First, while the official definition of an S-unit is
6dB, one S-unit on most receivers is more like
Well, I'm with you, but the dB's you are referencing have to be *radiated*
power in the needed direction and elevation. I have worked with hams with
wonderful, immaculate stations that made errors in the antenna system that
cost them a lot if not most of what they sent toward the antenna. This is
On Fri,12/12/2014 10:41 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
Given who your club is, the universe of scores in use by your stat guy
is a special case on the good side, that's for sure. I would never
expect to see that result at large.
Obviously, this is an all things being equal sort of analysis.
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