Re: [Elecraft] More KX2 recieve questions

[David Gilbert]

What are you doing with your RF gain set to zero??

Dave   AB7E



On 1/18/2017 9:23 PM, Paul Smith wrote:

I called the 4SQRP net tonight on 3564. I had my KX2 for a transmitter and my 
old tribander for receive. Here is what things are set at.

As I was instructed earlier the pre amp was on although the word pre on the 
screen went off 4 times during the net and the button took a couple taps to get 
the pre back on the screen. Is this normal?

The BW is at 2.80

RF gain is 0

NR is off

the APF is off when the button is held a narrow filter kicks in.

I am ocnfused what to do and or to look for. I could hear checkins on my 
Tribander and not a peep heard on the KX2

The antennas as before were 102 ft doublet and a zepp

Any ideas what to check next?

Thanks

de PAul N0NBD


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Re: [Elecraft] More KX2 recieve questions

[na5n]

Paul Smith writes:

I called the 4SQRP net tonight on 3564. I had my KX2 for a transmitter  
and my old tribander for receive. Here is what things are set at.




The BW is at 2.80


I'm confused.  Are you working CW or SSB?  3564 is CW and your filter  
should be like .25, .30 or whatever you set it at in CW mode.  A filter BW  
of 2.80 is an SSB filter BW.  Do you have your KX2 in the wrong mode or  
some split mode?  (I.e., TX on one VFO, RX on another?)


What mode are you trying to work?

I am ocnfused what to do and or to look for. I could hear checkins on my  
Tribander and not a peep heard on the KX2


My KX2 is more than sufficiently sensitive and yours should be too with  
100' of wire in the air.  Most signals are quite clear and distinct with  
the audio set 8-12, and higher than that only for very weak signals.


So check that you are in the right mode, ensure RIT and XIT are turned off  
(for no offsets), and RX and TX both on VFO-A, then tune around and you  
should hear signals.  If not, let us know.  I've only used the KX2 on CW,  
but I've never seen the PREamp change to something else on its own without  
hitting the PRE button.  It should be in PRE mode for most work.


GL es 73, Paul NA5N
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[Elecraft] More KX2 recieve questions

[Paul Smith]

I called the 4SQRP net tonight on 3564. I had my KX2 for a transmitter and my 
old tribander for receive. Here is what things are set at.

As I was instructed earlier the pre amp was on although the word pre on the 
screen went off 4 times during the net and the button took a couple taps to get 
the pre back on the screen. Is this normal?

The BW is at 2.80

RF gain is 0

NR is off

the APF is off when the button is held a narrow filter kicks in.

I am ocnfused what to do and or to look for. I could hear checkins on my 
Tribander and not a peep heard on the KX2

The antennas as before were 102 ft doublet and a zepp

Any ideas what to check next?

Thanks

de PAul N0NBD


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Re: [Elecraft] Source for K3 weighted knobs

[Chortek Bob via Elecraft]

Honestly VFO A is perfect with the neoprene ring, but VFO B is a just a tad too 
small and needs a neoprene ring too, IMHO.  For my taste, a neoprene ring for 
VFO B would solve the size issue.  But then, I am just a user of the product.  
:-)
73,
Bob/AA6VB

  From: Wayne Burdick 
 To: Harry Yingst  
Cc: Elecraft Reflector 
 Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 10:36 AM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Source for K3 weighted knobs
   
Both the stock VFO A knob and VFO B knob are weighted. The VFO A knob also has 
a soft-touch rubber ring.

I have to admit I'm a little baffled as to why any different knobs would be 
desirable. We tried to optimize for both function and aesthetics. But hey, I'm 
just an engineer :)

Wayne
N6KR


   
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Re: [Elecraft] Source for K3 weighted knobs

[Don Wilhelm]

Bill,

I fear if detented encoders would be used, there would be many who would 
complain about the lack of analog control between the encoder steps.  I 
for one prefer the non-detented controls.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/18/2017 2:59 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:

I am quite happy with the knobs that Elecraft supplies, although I might
like a ball bearing dimple.

Given that most of the adjustments are digital in nature, what I would
really like is tactile feedback whenever the radio moves to the next
step, like I have on the heater controls in my car, and have had on the
controls for some stereo equipment. For example, I could then adjust
RIT/XIT by feel without having to look at the radio. I don't know if the
many-step encoders Elecraft uses can be had with tactile feedback, but I
would be very nice.

73 Bill AE6JV

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 on 60m (K60XV)

[Don Wilhelm]

Heinz,

Not true - the bandpass filters are extended when the K60XV option is 
added.  Note that there are two trimmer capacitors on the K60XV board 
for exactly that purpose.
These additional capacitors are switched in so the bandpass filter can 
be peaked on 60 meters.


The cutoff for the 40 meter Low Pass filter is well below the 2nd 
harmonic of 60 meters, and can be used on 60 meters without signal 
attenuation.


In other words, the K2 on 60 meters has the same RX sensitivity as the 
other bands.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/18/2017 3:13 PM, Heinz Baertschi wrote:

Based on the fact that the K2 has 5 BPF and LPF only to cover 9 bands I
wonder

1) if/to what extent the RX performance on the existing bands is influenced
by the addition of the 60m band (K60XV)?

2) what RX performance can be expected on 60m (compared to the K2 standard
bands)?

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[Elecraft] K2 on 60m (K60XV)

[Heinz Baertschi]

Based on the fact that the K2 has 5 BPF and LPF only to cover 9 bands I
wonder 

1) if/to what extent the RX performance on the existing bands is influenced
by the addition of the 60m band (K60XV)?

2) what RX performance can be expected on 60m (compared to the K2 standard
bands)?

73, Heinz HB9BCB




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Re: [Elecraft] Source for K3 weighted knobs

[Bill Frantz]

I am quite happy with the knobs that Elecraft supplies, although 
I might like a ball bearing dimple.


Given that most of the adjustments are digital in nature, what I 
would really like is tactile feedback whenever the radio moves 
to the next step, like I have on the heater controls in my car, 
and have had on the controls for some stereo equipment. For 
example, I could then adjust RIT/XIT by feel without having to 
look at the radio. I don't know if the many-step encoders 
Elecraft uses can be had with tactile feedback, but I would be 
very nice.


73 Bill AE6JV

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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 Receive problem!?

[Wayne Burdick]

Paul,

First thing to check is to make sure the preamp is on, and the attenuator 
turned off. Both are selected using the PRE switch. The KX2 is an SDR, and 
typically such rigs have about -120 dBm MDS with preamp off, and -135 dBm with 
preamp on. This can make a huge difference on a quiet band. 

The dynamic range is good enough that you can probably leave the preamp on all 
or most of the time. 

Let me know if your received signals are still down after turning on the 
preamp. If that doesn't fix it, you could have APF turned on (very narrow audio 
peaking filter), or NR turned on (noise reduction), or you could have a problem 
with a bandpass filter, etc.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Jan 18, 2017, at 8:32 AM, Paul Smith  wrote:

> I have a KX2 nr 855 I bought in August.This is my first venture in in a 
> sophisticated radio. I have been operating kit built rigs for years. My KX2 
> has the latest firmware  MCU revision 02.69.
> 
> The receive seems to be down quite a bit. My antennas are a 102 ft doublet at 
> 50 ft and a Zepp at 50 feet. Each fed with 450 ladder line. On the 4SQRP nets 
> I have been frequently been told they can hear me and I hear NO ONE.
> 
> The question is could someone share the setup information with me for filters 
> and such. My ears do not require much filtering as my old ELMER used to YELL 
> at me use the filter between ur ears. I have made some contacts but I would 
> like to hear more.
> 
> Thanking in advance de Paul N0NBD
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Re: [Elecraft] Narrow Transmit bandwith

[KV5J via Elecraft]

This has been asked for for years.

Keith, KV5J



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[Elecraft] KX2 Receive problem!?

[Paul Smith]

I have a KX2 nr 855 I bought in August.This is my first venture in in a 
sophisticated radio. I have been operating kit built rigs for years. My KX2 has 
the latest firmware  MCU revision 02.69.

The receive seems to be down quite a bit. My antennas are a 102 ft doublet at 
50 ft and a Zepp at 50 feet. Each fed with 450 ladder line. On the 4SQRP nets I 
have been frequently been told they can hear me and I hear NO ONE.

The question is could someone share the setup information with me for filters 
and such. My ears do not require much filtering as my old ELMER used to YELL at 
me use the filter between ur ears. I have made some contacts but I would like 
to hear more.

Thanking in advance de Paul N0NBD


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Re: [Elecraft] WSJT-X Problem with K3S

[David Anderson via Elecraft]

> On 17 Jan 2017, at 16:48, John Stengrevics  wrote:
> 
> Many thanks to all who provided their suggestions.
> 
> I decided to try Joe's (W4TV) suggestion and elect RTS.  That appears to have 
> solved the problem of the transmit staying on.
> 
> My only remaining problem is a 100 to 200 millisecond spillover into the next 
> sequence.  I have synched my Mac to time.nist.gov  and 
> the time.is  site shows that I am dead on. If anyone has any 
> suggestions, they would be much appreciated.


The Mac can be quite difficult to keep accurately time syncd using NTP, as it 
doesn’t always check the time from the best server and many other little snags 
like not checking very often sometimes.

If you have a reasonably modern version of the Mac OS then add some other NTP 
servers for your region to the Date & Time preferences, after the standard 
Apple one, separated by a comma. For example just add:

1.pool.ntp.org, 2.pool.ntp.org after whatever Apple has chosen.

In Europe I use

time.euro.apple.com, 1.uk.pool.ntp.org, 2.uk.pool.ntp.org

Please use your own region's ntp pool 

Uncheck "Set date and time automatically" and recheck it, it should update it.

Open a terminal window and type ntpq -p

You will get a list of the servers and their offsets (in ms) as well as other 
nerdy stuff. You will notice that NTP slowly drift corrects the clock. It only 
polls slowly so you have to be patient, but the good thing is it should learn.

Hope that helps

73

David GM4JJJ











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Re: [Elecraft] Source for K3 weighted knobs

[W0MU Mike Fatchett]

Thank all for the info on the knobs.  I have ordered  the Neogrip to 
give them a try first.


W0MU


On 1/17/2017 3:53 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
For those who have the K3 and want to upgrade the knob, the only thing 
you need to order is the Neoprene Soft Grip Ring - p/n NEOGRIP


The underlying knob is the same as used on the K3S.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/17/2017 4:51 PM, lmarion wrote:

Ditto that,  the K3s/KPOD  knobs are deluxe!

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Re: [Elecraft] FS: KRC-2 w/cables-- SOLD

[Ralph McClintock]

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Re: [Elecraft] WSJT-X Problem with K3S

[David Anderson via Elecraft]

In MSK144 the T/R periods for meteor scatter are normally 15 seconds on 50 MHz, 
so it is important for all stations to have their clocks as accurate as they 
can, within half a second will do, but the closer the better.

Just to explain further, on meteorscatter it is possible for many stations to 
share the same frequency, as bursts are short and one station may not hear the 
same burst as another if they are in a slightly different location. We use 
conventions for which transmit period to use based on where we are beaming in 
one of the 4 quadrants. For example if beaming East or South we transmit on the 
second period so start at 15 secs after the top of the minute. 

This allows a couple of locals to both call CQ or work another station on the 
same frequency without hearing each other, but they are both able to hear and 
respond to any callers. If their clocks are a second or more out then there 
will be a slight overlap and the locals will interfere with each other for that 
short overlap time period. 

There will have to be a slight delay for relays and sequencers of course. There 
is a 200 ms software TX Delay between PTT being asserted and data sending in 
WSJT-X by default to allow relays to settle, though a hardware sequencer is a 
safer solution.

All of the above is covered in the online documentation for WSJT-X

http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx-doc/wsjtx-main-1.7.1-devel.html#SYSREQ

73 from David GM4JJJ

> On 17 Jan 2017, at 18:02, Nr4c  wrote:
> 
> Mine only transmits for around 42 seconds.   So should not impact the rec on 
> next minute. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
> 
> 
>> On Jan 17, 2017, at 11:48 AM, John Stengrevics  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Many thanks to all who provided their suggestions.
>> 
>> I decided to try Joe's (W4TV) suggestion and elect RTS.  That appears to 
>> have solved the problem of the transmit staying on.
>> 
>> My only remaining problem is a 100 to 200 millisecond spillover into the 
>> next sequence.  I have synched my Mac to time.nist.gov 
>>  and the time.is  site shows that I 
>> am dead on.  If anyone has any suggestions, they would be much appreciated.
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> John
>> WA1EAZ
>> 
>>> On Jan 13, 2017, at 1:53 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Can't argue entirely with success, but often folks just want to put the 
>>> trouble In a cage so they can get on with having fun. I get that, it's a 
>>> hobby. For sure, been there done that. 
>>> 
>>> But all you have done for the moment is put the snarling dog in a cage 
>>> where it can't bite. If you ever run an amp the trouble is likely to return 
>>> in some form. You still have the snarling dog. 
>>> 
>>> And there are unanswered oddities like why the RFI only affected the one 
>>> sequence of commands. 
>>> 
>>> For others reading this thread, the exhortations for VOX or PTT are very 
>>> well taken, particularly where deciding on methodology is part of planning. 
>>> 
>>> Having a PTT and not-PTT signal available to the station *system* can be 
>>> very useful for such things as shutting off remote RX amps during transmit. 
>>> Many PC station programs like N1MM+ can add transfer delays only where they 
>>> apply, as do WinKey equipped devices which can apply CW key speed related 
>>> "word space" intervals. 
>>> 
>>> Not-PTT drives a simple circuit to supply a keyed 12 VDC supply that is 
>>> only on when it's safe from TX induced voltages, and can drive relays to 
>>> detune towers and de-resonate wires when RX. 
>>> 
>>> Given that the K3S board has both a USB/serial chip and a sound card on it, 
>>> no workable scheme proven robust for the K3 has to be discarded for the 
>>> K3S. 
>>> 
>>> All that aside, glad you you managed to cage the snarling dog, by whatever 
>>> means.  :>)
>>> 
>>> 73, Guy K2AV 
>>> 
>>> On Thursday, January 12, 2017, John Stengrevics >> > wrote:
>>> Three turns of the USB cable through a #43 ferrite and I am good to go at 
>>> full power (95 watts).
>>> 
>>> John
>>> WA1EAZ
>>> 
 On Jan 12, 2017, at 2:40 PM, Edward R Cole > wrote:
 
 Now that the thread has morphed to RFI:
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 - Earthing Post

[Alan. G4GNX]

FWIW they should be easy to find in the UK at Namrick - The Nut and Bolt 
Shop, in Hove.


http://www.namrick.co.uk/

73,

Alan. G4GNX

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On 18/01/17 01:31, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:

Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 - Earthing Post
Message-ID: <567cd1bd-c0de-d7d7-2b35-17c30d268...@embarqmail.com>
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According to the parts list in the manual, the thread size is 8-32.

73,
Don W3FPR


For the uninitiated, that's a number 8 size, 32 threads per inch.

American threads (non metric) are not that common outside the US, unless
one works for a US subsidiary.

73.

Dave G0WBX 


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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 - Earthing Post

[Dave B via Elecraft]

On 18/01/17 01:31, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 - Earthing Post
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>
> According to the parts list in the manual, the thread size is 8-32.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR

For the uninitiated, that's a number 8 size, 32 threads per inch.

American threads (non metric) are not that common outside the US, unless
one works for a US subsidiary.

73.

Dave G0WBX

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