[Elecraft] FOR SALE: K3S/100 and P3

2019-06-28 Thread W0FK
Excellent condition K3S/100 and P3. I’m the original owner and it has served me well. K3S/100. With KRX3A second receiver, KDVR3 digital voice recorder, KAT3A tuner, KTCXO3-1 TCXO, and 2.8 KHz filters in both the main and second receivers. $2749 P3 Panadapter. Comes with cblp3y cable to

Re: [Elecraft] ALC implementation

2019-06-28 Thread Jim Brown
Right.  Almost ten years ago, I used an audio FFT to measure the harmonics in a Thinkpad's line level (also used for headphones) output. The distortion decreased by 10 dB when the output was first set just below clip and then reduced by 6 dB (half the output voltage).  Just below clip, the

Re: [Elecraft] ALC implementation

2019-06-28 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
Among other issues, this article is incorrect when calling for the "Device" (Master) volume level in Windows to be set to 100%. Nearly every sound card for which I've seen test results has increased distortion above the 70 - 80% level (-1 to -2 dB or -3 to -6 dB depending on the driver

Re: [Elecraft] Tune Button with ATU off

2019-06-28 Thread Rich
Perfect, that is what I thought but wanted to verify with the group Rich On 6/28/2019 17:11 PM, Walter Underwood wrote: Yes, that is the purpose of the TUNE button. "One measure of how close an antenna is to resonance is its SWR (standing wave ratio). The KX3 displays SWR in TUNE mode (pg.

Re: [Elecraft] Tune Button with ATU off

2019-06-28 Thread Walter Underwood
Yes, that is the purpose of the TUNE button. "One measure of how close an antenna is to resonance is its SWR (standing wave ratio). The KX3 displays SWR in TUNE mode (pg. 14). “KX3 manual, page 6 "TUNE is used to put out a CW signal at the power level selected by the PWR control. This is

[Elecraft] Tune Button with ATU off

2019-06-28 Thread Rich
I am working with a resonant 20m vertical. With the ATU off, when I press the Tune button I see an SWR reading, is that the SWR the rig is seeing with the ATU in bypass? I assume it is, but I thought I would ask the masses to be sure. Thanks Rich K3RWN

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 batteries

2019-06-28 Thread Mark Goldberg
LiFePO4s will stay at high enough voltage for most of the discharge cycle to keep the KX3 above 15W. 9Ah will run it a long time. Regards, Mark On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 1:14 PM Chris Waldrup wrote: > Will the Bioenno batteries have enough terminal voltage to get the 15W? > I'm looking at a

Re: [Elecraft] ALC implementation

2019-06-28 Thread Wes
Analog ALC is a fully closed loop too. And Elecraft measuring the output and generating feedback isn't without flaw either. There is an ADC in that output measurement system that introduces low-level power jitter easily observed on a spectrum analyzer. Wes  N7WS On 6/28/2019 12:04 PM, Don

Re: [Elecraft] K4 and TX monitor

2019-06-28 Thread George Thornton
I have the TX monitor feature in my K3/P3. I find that feature very useful. Will that same capability be built into the K4, and can I use the same sensor? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] ALC implementation

2019-06-28 Thread Don Wilhelm
Richard, When you put the KX3 into DATA A mode, the mic gain is reduced to something resembling Line level. Depending on your soundcard output, you may still need an attenuator. Strive for each audio control in the computer and application to be at 30 to 50%, and then if you have too much

Re: [Elecraft] ALC implementation

2019-06-28 Thread Wes
Depends on the time constants. Wes  N7WS On 6/28/2019 11:51 AM, Dr. William J. Schmidt wrote: It's very nature causes the resulting overall transfer function to become non-linear, leading to distortion and other unwanted by products when active. -Original Message- From:

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 batteries

2019-06-28 Thread Chris Waldrup
Will the Bioenno batteries have enough terminal voltage to get the 15W? I'm looking at a 9Ah unit and if so will stop by Gigaparts on the way home from work today and pick one up. Chris KD4PBJ > On Jun 25, 2019, at 9:46 AM, Walter Underwood wrote: > > That may be, though the discharge curves

Re: [Elecraft] ALC implementation

2019-06-28 Thread Andy Durbin
" which measures the actual power output, compares it with the set power and adjusts the RF drive accordingly. This is a fully closed loop system. As far as I know, Elecraft is the only amateur transceiver using that type of system." I think you will find that is exactly how TS-590 power

Re: [Elecraft] ALC implementation

2019-06-28 Thread Don Wilhelm
Brian, ALC should never be used for power control doing so usually causes RF compression and distortion. Many of the digital application instructions tell you to set for NO ALC as a *maximum* audio level, set the power control for the maximum desired and then reduce the audio level to

Re: [Elecraft] ALC implementation

2019-06-28 Thread Richard Corfield
That's interesting thanks. It means that by aiming for no ALC indication I've been under modulating. I assume the input stage in the KX3 can take higher levels? On Fri, 28 Jun 2019, 16:35 Bob McGraw K4TAX, wrote: > Well written generic paper for operation of FT-8 and other digital > signals of

Re: [Elecraft] Sending KX3 to Elecraft for repair from Canada

2019-06-28 Thread Richard Corfield
Did you pay VAT on the repair? On Fri, 28 Jun 2019, 19:08 Roger Stein, wrote: > Brian, > I used Canada Post to send my K3 #75 in for repair. Elecraft used USPS for > return. Documents were marked “for repair”. No hassle, no brokerage fees, > just return shipping fees. Tracked package online

Re: [Elecraft] Sending KX3 to Elecraft for repair from Canada

2019-06-28 Thread Richard Corfield
You'd think they'd include the predictable fees in the price to the sender. It will be really bad if they charged the recipient, especially if the parcel went through customs ok. On Fri, 28 Jun 2019, 19:35 Don Wilhelm, wrote: > Brian, > > Use the postal system. There are no "brokerage fees"

Re: [Elecraft] ALC implementation

2019-06-28 Thread Dr. William J. Schmidt
It's very nature causes the resulting overall transfer function to become non-linear, leading to distortion and other unwanted by products when active. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Brian Denley Sent:

Re: [Elecraft] ALC implementation

2019-06-28 Thread Jim Brown
On 6/28/2019 11:38 AM, Brian Denley wrote: I have always thought that ALC is not appropriate for power control. It’s a protection system. Over use of ALC acts like compression. You are absolutely right. ALC should never be used between a transceiver and an amplifier for power control.

Re: [Elecraft] ALC implementation

2019-06-28 Thread Brian Denley
I have always thought that ALC is not appropriate for power control. It’s a protection system. Over use of ALC acts like compression. No? Brian KB1VBF Sent from my iPad > On Jun 28, 2019, at 1:11 PM, Jim Rhodes wrote: > > Yes Andy, I used a TS590 at field day. But this is the Elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] Sending KX3 to Elecraft for repair from Canada

2019-06-28 Thread Don Wilhelm
Brian, Use the postal system. There are no "brokerage fees" charged by the postal system. UPS and FedEX do charge "brokerage fees" Customs is a different matter - usually properly marked customs forms will go through with no problem. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/28/2019 11:48 AM, Brian “VE3BWP”

Re: [Elecraft] KIO3B USB Surge Suppressor

2019-06-28 Thread Jim Brown
On 6/28/2019 9:37 AM, Paul Christensen wrote: Looking for input from anyone who has successfully installed a surge-suppression device on a USB port. I am in the process of repairing a KIO3B board after a recent thunderstorm. Paul, The usual cause of destructive failures like these from

Re: [Elecraft] Sending KX3 to Elecraft for repair from Canada

2019-06-28 Thread Roger Stein
Brian, I used Canada Post to send my K3 #75 in for repair. Elecraft used USPS for return. Documents were marked “for repair”. No hassle, no brokerage fees, just return shipping fees. Tracked package online going and return. Worked just fine. All the best. 73, Roger VA1RST Halifax Sent from my

Re: [Elecraft] ALC implementation

2019-06-28 Thread Jim Rhodes
Yes Andy, I used a TS590 at field day. But this is the Elecraft reflector. These rigs work differently. Use my K3 for FT8 often. I built an interface for my Kenwood rig too. But you treat them differently. Jim Rhodes K0XU On Fri, Jun 28, 2019, 11:21 Andy Durbin wrote: > I strongly disagree

Re: [Elecraft] KIO3B USB Surge Suppressor

2019-06-28 Thread hbjr
Paul... This is not exactly what you are describing, but it fails open. https://hifimediy.com/usb-isolator I've used one at a digipeater site and it took a static hit think - nearby strike - it protected the TNC and PC. It was open on every line. I have used them for ground loops with sound

[Elecraft] KIO3B USB Surge Suppressor

2019-06-28 Thread Paul Christensen
Looking for input from anyone who has successfully installed a surge-suppression device on a USB port. I am in the process of repairing a KIO3B board after a recent thunderstorm. The KIO3B uses an ST Microelectronics USBLC6-2 ESD protection device at the front end of the K3's USB connector.

Re: [Elecraft] ALC implementation

2019-06-28 Thread Andy Durbin
I strongly disagree that ALC should be zero for FT8 but that is based only on my experience with the TS-590S. My draft paper on FT8 harmonics can be found here - https://www.dropbox.com/s/85aoc937kz235iq/FT8%20audio%20harmonics%20draft%20d%20k3wyc.pdf?dl=0 ALC must be in the control range for

Re: [Elecraft] Sending KX3 to Elecraft for repair from Canada

2019-06-28 Thread Richard Corfield
I used UPS and need to write up my experience. Your question will encourage that! I found that UPS's Customs Forms generator produced a Sales Invoice even though I asked it to produce a Temporary Export for Repair. So I crossed out the Sales part and wrote in pen that this was a repair and will

[Elecraft] Sending KX3 to Elecraft for repair from Canada

2019-06-28 Thread Brian “VE3BWP” Pietrzyk
I’m hoping to hear from any Canadian HAMs who have successfully sent their radio (KX3 in my case) to Elecraft USA for repair and got it back with the least amount of brokerage hassles. Which carrier did you use? How did it go? I ask because I once had to send a Yaesu in for a warranty repair

Re: [Elecraft] ALC implementation

2019-06-28 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Well written generic paper for operation of FT-8 and other digital signals of like mode.   It does not totally nor correctly apply to Elecraft radios as power management is handled by a totally different means.   And those means and methods suggested in this paper are not applicable to

[Elecraft] [K3] FS: PR6 Preamp

2019-06-28 Thread T.H. Bauer
Surplus to my needs, a PR6 preamp for K3. Includes all necessary connectors and cabling for plug-and-play addition to your K3. $60 shipped to US, CAN addresses. If interested, please inquire off list. Tnx for reading. 73 --- Ted WA3AER

Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 AND THE 403A 1A2R

2019-06-28 Thread Ken K6MR
I don’t specifically use the 4O3A switch, but I do have single amp SO2R using a KPA1500 and two K3s. I’m using a MK2R to generate the band data with a set of 4 TopTen A-B switches to handle the RF switching. An Arduino handles the AuxBus messages between the amp and the radios. The amp

Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 AND THE 403A 1A2R

2019-06-28 Thread Richard Zalewski
Excellent point on the band data issue John. I was holding out for the Flex amp but no tuner is an issue for me with my low band antennas. If they ever put the tuner in the amp I will consider it. Will have to study the band data issue. Richard *W7ZR* ex:5C5Z, CN2ZR, K2JSP, W6SBZ, W7KXR,

[Elecraft] ALC implementation

2019-06-28 Thread Andy Durbin
Does anyone know of any rig that uses "compression" rather than linear gain control to implement ALC? ref - https://www.dropbox.com/s/f4uaop5tqwzaweu/FT8Noise6.docx?dl=1 73, Andy, k3wyc __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 AND THE 403A 1A2R

2019-06-28 Thread john
I think the biggest obstacle would be switching the band data to the KPA-1500. If you operate 2BSIQ it really pushes the amp duty cycle, especially on RTTY. The Flex amp is already set up for this. John KK9A Richard Zalewski W7ZR wrote: Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ]

[Elecraft] Australian Parliament: An inquiry into truth in political advertising

2019-06-28 Thread marjannorm
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Re: [Elecraft] All knobs at max ...

2019-06-28 Thread Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE)
Radio amateurs have agreed to use one time only: It was called GMT and now UTC and uses a 24 hour format... Let's stick to that folks, wherever you live! 73, Peter, PA0PJE Op 27-06-19 om 22:36 schreef Bob McGraw K4TAX: Indian Chief said;    "White man stupid.  Thinks he can cut 12" off of