Re: [Elecraft] OT: Kidde smoke detectors
FWIW, we use a Nest Protect here (hardwired into A/C, too) and haven't had problems with RFI. I imagine it'd be a different story if it didn't use Wi-Fi, though. Speaking of Wi-Fi, our Ubiquiti access point required at least four Ethernet chokes, a third party PoE injector and CAT7 shielded cable to get the RFI down to an acceptable level. That was a fairly surprising thing to have happen but I guess PoE in general is well known to be really bad for RFI (and the limited antenna possibilities at the QTH I'm sure didn't help either). -Mooneer K6AQ On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 9:02 PM Mark Goldberg wrote: > I have an older wired alarm system that uses serial data, and it is > indeed awful. The serial data is quite slow but it has no filtering. I > added an LC filter that works well enough to keep the RFI out of my > station, at least down to the level of what comes from my neighbors > and keeps my station from setting off the alarm system (most of the > time). > > At my son's house, he and neighbors have some SimpliSafe and other > wireless alarm systems and the HF Ham bands are wiped out by the RFI. > I have no idea what nominal frequency range or signalling they use. I > would expect for battery life they would not transmit often, but > whatever they do to create the RFI is continuous. > > I also have a hard wired smoke alarm from Kidde. That uses a DC > interconnect between units. I believe any unit that goes off pulls a > line up to about 9 V and they all go off. They are kind of cagey as to > exactly what the interconnect signal is though, so I may be a little > off. I have not detected any issues with RFI or susceptibility. Those > may indeed work for you. > > I do have a Spectrum Analyzer and multiple types of clamp on probes > and antennas but have not taken the time to do any quantitative > measurements of any of these. > > Having to tell the Fire Department that the fire alarm is false is not > a good thing. > > 73, > > Mark > W7MLG > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 7:38 PM Jim Brown > wrote: > > > > On 10/24/2020 6:53 PM, Harlan Sherriff via Elecraft wrote: > > > So, guess I’ll send these back and get some hardwired interconnected > units. > > > > That is probably a recipe for noise, radiated by that interconnected > > wiring. The security industry has long been notorious for EMC to and > > from their systems. WiFi interfacing should reduce both significantly, > > but before committing to anything, chat up engineers at the company > > about RFI. > > > > 73, Jim K9YC > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to marklgoldb...@gmail.com > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to moon...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: Kidde smoke detectors
I have an older wired alarm system that uses serial data, and it is indeed awful. The serial data is quite slow but it has no filtering. I added an LC filter that works well enough to keep the RFI out of my station, at least down to the level of what comes from my neighbors and keeps my station from setting off the alarm system (most of the time). At my son's house, he and neighbors have some SimpliSafe and other wireless alarm systems and the HF Ham bands are wiped out by the RFI. I have no idea what nominal frequency range or signalling they use. I would expect for battery life they would not transmit often, but whatever they do to create the RFI is continuous. I also have a hard wired smoke alarm from Kidde. That uses a DC interconnect between units. I believe any unit that goes off pulls a line up to about 9 V and they all go off. They are kind of cagey as to exactly what the interconnect signal is though, so I may be a little off. I have not detected any issues with RFI or susceptibility. Those may indeed work for you. I do have a Spectrum Analyzer and multiple types of clamp on probes and antennas but have not taken the time to do any quantitative measurements of any of these. Having to tell the Fire Department that the fire alarm is false is not a good thing. 73, Mark W7MLG On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 7:38 PM Jim Brown wrote: > > On 10/24/2020 6:53 PM, Harlan Sherriff via Elecraft wrote: > > So, guess I’ll send these back and get some hardwired interconnected units. > > That is probably a recipe for noise, radiated by that interconnected > wiring. The security industry has long been notorious for EMC to and > from their systems. WiFi interfacing should reduce both significantly, > but before committing to anything, chat up engineers at the company > about RFI. > > 73, Jim K9YC > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to marklgoldb...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: Kidde smoke detectors
K4HES wrote: > So, guess I'll send these back and get some hardwired interconnected units. That might be the wrong thing to do. We had a number of wired interconnected units in our house, but the one closest to the shack and antennas started alarming every time I transmitted on 40m with more than 100 W, and because they were interconnected, the alarm was heard everywhere in the house. I replaced that one detector with a battery-only, non-interconnected unit and the problem went away - the non-interconnected unit has no RFI problem, and neither does the interconnected part of the system elsewhere in the house. I would expect wireless interconnected units to be less of a problem than wired ones. If one of them did have an RFI problem, it would be easy to replace it with a no-interconnected unit at the vulnerable location to see if that fixed the problem. 73, Rich VE3KI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Kidde smoke detectors
On 10/24/2020 6:53 PM, Harlan Sherriff via Elecraft wrote: So, guess I’ll send these back and get some hardwired interconnected units. That is probably a recipe for noise, radiated by that interconnected wiring. The security industry has long been notorious for EMC to and from their systems. WiFi interfacing should reduce both significantly, but before committing to anything, chat up engineers at the company about RFI. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] OT: Kidde smoke detectors
Heads up! Keeping with the suggested 10 year smoke detector replacement, and wanting to add a couple more and have them all alarm if one alarms, I bought Kidde wireless interconnected detectors. Well, start installation, read the manual. Under Locations To Avoid: Near amateur radios or other devices known to transmit an RF signal. So, guess I’ll send these back and get some hardwired interconnected units. Harlan K4HES 73 Sent from my iPhone __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] help with writing a macro for the KPA 1500
Howard: The KPA1500 PF1 and PF2 buttons are programmed from the KPA1500 Utility. Choose the Configuration tab, and the PF Keys tab. Enter the macros for PF1 and PF2, then "APPLY" or "OK". The macros might be something this for PF1: ^DTRADIO TYPE K3;^XI0; And this for PF2:^DTFLEX SERIAL;^XI3; The ^DT text shows on the LCD screen when you hold the PF button to remind you what it was intended to do. 73 de Dick, K6KR -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Howard Sherer Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2020 12:13 To: elecraft Subject: [Elecraft] help with writing a macro for the KPA 1500 I am trying to write macros for the PF 1 & 2 keys for the KPA 1500. My objective is: Have the PF1 button switch the Input to the K3s with the command ^PF1^XI0; Have the PF2 button change the input type to serial (for Flex) with the command ^PF2^XI3; Neither one is working, where am I going wrong? I assume that after I have these working with the command tested in the 1500 util, that saving them will send them to program the buttons on the 1500? Is this correct? Howard __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to d...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] help with writing a macro for the KPA 1500
To elaborate, the ^PF0 and ^PF1 are not valid commands. If you want to string multiple commands on a button, each command must be followed by a semicolon with no spaces. Dave wo2x -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Howard Sherer Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2020 3:13 PM To: elecraft Subject: [Elecraft] help with writing a macro for the KPA 1500 I am trying to write macros for the PF 1 & 2 keys for the KPA 1500. My objective is: Have the PF1 button switch the Input to the K3s with the command ^PF1^XI0; Have the PF2 button change the input type to serial (for Flex) with the command ^PF2^XI3; Neither one is working, where am I going wrong? I assume that after I have these working with the command tested in the 1500 util, that saving them will send them to program the buttons on the 1500? Is this correct? Howard __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rocke...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] help with writing a macro for the KPA 1500
Use the KPA1500 Utility program. In the PF box for PF1 just put ^XI0; In the PF2 box put ^XI3; No need to put PF1 and PF2 in front. Dave wo2x -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Howard Sherer Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2020 3:13 PM To: elecraft Subject: [Elecraft] help with writing a macro for the KPA 1500 I am trying to write macros for the PF 1 & 2 keys for the KPA 1500. My objective is: Have the PF1 button switch the Input to the K3s with the command ^PF1^XI0; Have the PF2 button change the input type to serial (for Flex) with the command ^PF2^XI3; Neither one is working, where am I going wrong? I assume that after I have these working with the command tested in the 1500 util, that saving them will send them to program the buttons on the 1500? Is this correct? Howard __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rocke...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] help with writing a macro for the KPA 1500
I am trying to write macros for the PF 1 & 2 keys for the KPA 1500. My objective is: Have the PF1 button switch the Input to the K3s with the command ^PF1^XI0; Have the PF2 button change the input type to serial (for Flex) with the command ^PF2^XI3; Neither one is working, where am I going wrong? I assume that after I have these working with the command tested in the 1500 util, that saving them will send them to program the buttons on the 1500? Is this correct? Howard __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Training the KPA-1500
"How do I know what the tuner has finished tuning for a particular band?" You can't train for a "band". You have to train (establish a tuning solution for) each "bin" within each band. For each bin you have to chose whether you want to chose the upper edge, lower edge, center, or some commonly used frequency within that bin 's range. Each bin tune needs to handled as a complete autotune sequence. Lots of manual steps that could be automated (except for reservations about the legality). All comments based on experience with KAT500 not KPA1500. Andy, k3wyc __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Training the KPA-1500
I have read and attempted to follow the instructions in the manual for training the ATU in the KPA-1500, however I am not sure that I am doing it correctly. For instance, what mode should I use to produce a signal into the amplifier? Should I provide the signal continuously while the amplifier is tuning? How do I know what the tuner has finished tuning for a particular band? It appears that I have tuned my Cushcraft R7 for both 20 and 17 meters, but would like someone to give me detailed step by step instructions for the process. Thank you. Mike, N1VE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KDVR3 + N1MM Help Needed
Hello Eric,
The entries look ok. Maybe in N1MM you have "cq repeat" checked to be "on"
AND the "Set CQ Repeat time" set to short. Try 10 secs or longer ... hope
this helps.
73, Ad (pe1ftv)
Op za 24 okt. 2020 om 15:38 schreef Jim McDonald :
> Here's what I have:
>
> F1 CQ,{CATA1ASC SWT21;}
> F2 Exch,{CATA1ASC SWT31;}
> F3 Thanks!,{CATA1ASC SWT35;}
> F4 {MYCALL},{CATA1ASC SWT39;}
>
> 73, Jim N7US
>
> -Original Message-
>
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> It looks just like this:
>
> F1 CQ,{CATA1ASC SWT21;}{CATA2ASC SWT21;}
>
> F2 Exch,{CATA1ASC SWT31;}{CATA2ASC SWT31;}
>
> F3 Thanks!,{CATA1ASC SWT35;}{CATA2ASC SWT35;}
>
> F4 {MYCALL},{CATA1ASC SWT39;}{CATA2ASC SWT39;}
>
>
> Only my call is in F1 M1, CQ is in F4 M4
>
>
> 73 Eric WD6DBM
>
> >
> > > On Oct 24, 2020, at 6:44 AM, Eric Norris
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm using macros inside N1MM logger function keys (wicked cool), to
> > play M1
> > > memory from the KDVR3, but no matter how I record my call on the
> > > KDVR3, when played on an N1MM function call, I get something that
> > > sounds almost like a squelch tail. Any ideas on how to fix it?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > 73 Eric WD6DBM
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Re: [Elecraft] KDVR3 + N1MM Help Needed
Here's what I have:
F1 CQ,{CATA1ASC SWT21;}
F2 Exch,{CATA1ASC SWT31;}
F3 Thanks!,{CATA1ASC SWT35;}
F4 {MYCALL},{CATA1ASC SWT39;}
73, Jim N7US
-Original Message-
Hi Bill,
It looks just like this:
F1 CQ,{CATA1ASC SWT21;}{CATA2ASC SWT21;}
F2 Exch,{CATA1ASC SWT31;}{CATA2ASC SWT31;}
F3 Thanks!,{CATA1ASC SWT35;}{CATA2ASC SWT35;}
F4 {MYCALL},{CATA1ASC SWT39;}{CATA2ASC SWT39;}
Only my call is in F1 M1, CQ is in F4 M4
73 Eric WD6DBM
>
> > On Oct 24, 2020, at 6:44 AM, Eric Norris
> wrote:
> >
> > I'm using macros inside N1MM logger function keys (wicked cool), to
> play M1
> > memory from the KDVR3, but no matter how I record my call on the
> > KDVR3, when played on an N1MM function call, I get something that
> > sounds almost like a squelch tail. Any ideas on how to fix it?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > 73 Eric WD6DBM
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[Elecraft] K3/0 direct connect to K3s within a Jeep (no Internet, no RemoteRIG). Is it feasible?
I have been operating from within my Jeep and primarily from the passenger seat. I spent a lot of effort perfecting a KX3/PX3 system where two of these are mounted on my dash. https://nomadic.blog/2019/10/22/suitcase-dxpedition-so2r-why-drive-a-boring-bmw-m-series-when-you-can-have-a-ferrari/ Works great but as an SSB guy I’d like a little more oomph and hence a KPA500 enters the picture. My question is whether its possible/feasible to direct connect a K3s to a K3/0 mini. The use case is to leave the K3s/KPA500 in the back of the Jeep and have a K3/0 mounted on the dash. I really don’t want to use the RemoteRig boxes and wondered if its feasible to do this? Paul Gacek W6PNG/M0SNA www.nomadic.blog __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KDVR3 + N1MM Help Needed
Hi Bill,
It looks just like this:
F1 CQ,{CATA1ASC SWT21;}{CATA2ASC SWT21;}
F2 Exch,{CATA1ASC SWT31;}{CATA2ASC SWT31;}
F3 Thanks!,{CATA1ASC SWT35;}{CATA2ASC SWT35;}
F4 {MYCALL},{CATA1ASC SWT39;}{CATA2ASC SWT39;}
Only my call is in F1 M1, CQ is in F4 M4
73 Eric WD6DBM
On Sat, Oct 24, 2020, 4:11 AM Nr4c wrote:
> More info?
>
> What does the function key file look like?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
>
>
> > On Oct 24, 2020, at 6:44 AM, Eric Norris
> wrote:
> >
> > I'm using macros inside N1MM logger function keys (wicked cool), to
> play M1
> > memory from the KDVR3, but no matter how I record my call on the KDVR3,
> > when played on an N1MM function call, I get something that sounds almost
> > like a squelch tail. Any ideas on how to fix it?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > 73 Eric WD6DBM
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Re: [Elecraft] KDVR3 + N1MM Help Needed
More info? What does the function key file look like? Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Oct 24, 2020, at 6:44 AM, Eric Norris wrote: > > I'm using macros inside N1MM logger function keys (wicked cool), to play M1 > memory from the KDVR3, but no matter how I record my call on the KDVR3, > when played on an N1MM function call, I get something that sounds almost > like a squelch tail. Any ideas on how to fix it? > > Thanks! > > 73 Eric WD6DBM > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n...@widomaker.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] KDVR3 + N1MM Help Needed
I'm using macros inside N1MM logger function keys (wicked cool), to play M1 memory from the KDVR3, but no matter how I record my call on the KDVR3, when played on an N1MM function call, I get something that sounds almost like a squelch tail. Any ideas on how to fix it? Thanks! 73 Eric WD6DBM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
