Re: [Elecraft] Diversity speaker set for sale

2022-04-18 Thread Jim Brown

On 4/18/2022 12:06 PM, Walter Underwood wrote:

Well, I did have a problem with my Hafler DH-220 providing enough current to my 
2 Ω Magneplanars for the O-Daiko drum (biggest taiko drum). Had to turn it 
down. But that kind of bass is unlikely to be a problem with communications 
audio. And my son has the Maggies now, plus I’m currently replacing the power 
supply in the Hafler.


Exactly my point.

73, Jim K9YC
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[Elecraft] Diversity speaker set for sale

2022-04-18 Thread inventor61
Speakers are spoken for, thanks for the offers.

Steve kz1x
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Re: [Elecraft] Diversity speaker set for sale

2022-04-18 Thread Walter Underwood
> On Apr 18, 2022, at 11:45 AM, Jim Brown  wrote:
> 
> FALSE! Impedance matching has not been practiced in audio for at least 60 
> years -- it dates to the days of vacuum tube output stages. There's nothing 
> wrong with using 2 ohm speakers with gear rated 4-8 ohms -- indeed, they will 
> play a bit louder for the same volume setting!

Well, I did have a problem with my Hafler DH-220 providing enough current to my 
2 Ω Magneplanars for the O-Daiko drum (biggest taiko drum). Had to turn it 
down. But that kind of bass is unlikely to be a problem with communications 
audio. And my son has the Maggies now, plus I’m currently replacing the power 
supply in the Hafler.

These drums: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7HL5wYqAbU

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)

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Re: [Elecraft] Diversity speaker set for sale

2022-04-18 Thread jerry

On 2022-04-18 11:45, Jim Brown wrote:

On 4/18/2022 11:21 AM, KENT TRIMBLE wrote:
Many found at hamfests are 2 ohm speakers while amateur receivers and 
transceivers for the last 60 years have required 4-8 ohm speakers.


FALSE! Impedance matching has not been practiced in audio for at least
60 years -- it dates to the days of vacuum tube output stages. There's
nothing wrong with using 2 ohm speakers with gear rated 4-8 ohms --
indeed, they will play a bit louder for the same volume setting!


*** In fact, I seem to remember a feature of good audio amps - "damping 
factor".  It's basically a measure of
how low-low-low - much lower than the speaker impedance - the output 
impedance of the amp is.  A good damping factor
helps control inertia effects in the speaker cone - helps give you 
"tight bass".


   - Jerry KF6VB

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Re: [Elecraft] Diversity speaker set for sale

2022-04-18 Thread Jim Brown

On 4/18/2022 11:21 AM, KENT TRIMBLE wrote:
Many found at hamfests are 2 ohm speakers while amateur receivers and 
transceivers for the last 60 years have required 4-8 ohm speakers.


FALSE! Impedance matching has not been practiced in audio for at least 
60 years -- it dates to the days of vacuum tube output stages. There's 
nothing wrong with using 2 ohm speakers with gear rated 4-8 ohms -- 
indeed, they will play a bit louder for the same volume setting!


There is usually a marking on the magnet face indicating the impedance. 
While I've modified several 2-ohm units to a higher impedance, it's more 
fun to watch the expression of the flea-market guys as you pull out a 
Phillips screwdriver and open case after case looking for 4 and 8 ohm ones.


All of this is totally un-necessary.

73, Jim K9YC


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Re: [Elecraft] Diversity speaker set for sale

2022-04-18 Thread KENT TRIMBLE
Everything Steve says about the Motorola HSN speakers is true with the 
following caution:


Many found at hamfests are 2 ohm speakers while amateur receivers and 
transceivers for the last 60 years have required 4-8 ohm speakers.


There is usually a marking on the magnet face indicating the impedance.  
While I've modified several 2-ohm units to a higher impedance, it's more 
fun to watch the expression of the flea-market guys as you pull out a 
Phillips screwdriver and open case after case looking for 4 and 8 ohm ones.


73,

Kent  K9ZTV



On 4/18/2022 12:29 PM, inventor61 wrote:

For Sale:  matching pair of Motorola HSN6003B external speakers for K3 with
diversity mode.  These are the version of the classic Motorola
communications speaker, designed for use on police motorcycles.  Besides
being waterproof, they have superior acoustic characteristics ...

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[Elecraft] Diversity speaker set for sale

2022-04-18 Thread inventor61
For Sale:  matching pair of Motorola HSN6003B external speakers for K3 with
diversity mode.  These are the version of the classic Motorola
communications speaker, designed for use on police motorcycles.  Besides
being waterproof, which isn't a real need for use with the K3, they have
superior acoustic characteristics, as well as a top-mounted cutoff switch
and the superb factory mounting bracket.  These two were purchased new, and
then wired such that they connect via a standard 1/8" stereo splitter
adapter (which I will include).  Used them on my K3 in a smoke and pet free
environment, until I had to re-do the shack and there was nowhere to place
them.  Plug-n-play for the new happy owner.  $50 for the complete setup
plus shipping, which I am guessing would be ~$17 USPS Priority Mail.

Steve kz1x
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