Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 frequency memories question

[Lyn Norstad]

I subscribe to all the Elecraft lists and use individual downloads.  Then my 
mail app puts them all into one folder, so I can scan them all or just look for 
the subject line.

Works well for me.

73
Lyn, WØLEN




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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 frequency memories question

On the multiple lists vs. one list:
As long as the individual product is placed in the subject line, 
multiple products are easily dealt with using filters.
Filter the posts any way you want (including deleting them) - learn how 
to use filters in your email client and you can do things such as moving 
the particular post to a specific folder in your email client list.

It is not hard, just read the section of your email client instructions 
on filters.

I would prefer one list - I have been working that way for at least 10 
years.
As Jack said, it depends on putting the product in the subject line - if 
not, you can move it manually.
BTW, I use Thunderbird for my email client, and I receive individual 
posts.  Working with the digest is another problem entirely.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/2/2022 5:22 PM, Jack Brindle via Elecraft wrote:
> Rick;
>
> While I agree that it is pretty much critical to have the device name in the 
> subject line, it would be a nightmare for the Elecraft support / development 
> folks to follow multiple email lists. This is the reason that just a few 
> lists were set up (I believe just one until the K4 came out).
>
>

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 frequency memories question

[john]

As Don said it is not difficult to sort by subject. I also prefer a single
list and often find it educational and enjoyable to read about Elecraft
products that I do not own. Towertalk does not have separate lists for
verticals, Beverages, Yagis, rotators, towers, grounding, etc. One list is
easy to follow, especially if posts are on topic. Last month there were
about 200 posts on this list so it is not that difficult to even manually
pick the ones of interest. 

John KK9A

Don Wilhelm W3FPR wrote:

On the multiple lists vs. one list:
As long as the individual product is placed in the subject line, 
multiple products are easily dealt with using filters.
Filter the posts any way you want (including deleting them) - learn how 
to use filters in your email client and you can do things such as moving 
the particular post to a specific folder in your email client list.

It is not hard, just read the section of your email client instructions 
on filters.

I would prefer one list - I have been working that way for at least 10 
years.
As Jack said, it depends on putting the product in the subject line - if 
not, you can move it manually.
BTW, I use Thunderbird for my email client, and I receive individual 
posts.  Working with the digest is another problem entirely.

73,
Don W3FPR

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 frequency memories question

[Don Wilhelm]

On the multiple lists vs. one list:
As long as the individual product is placed in the subject line, 
multiple products are easily dealt with using filters.
Filter the posts any way you want (including deleting them) - learn how 
to use filters in your email client and you can do things such as moving 
the particular post to a specific folder in your email client list.


It is not hard, just read the section of your email client instructions 
on filters.


I would prefer one list - I have been working that way for at least 10 
years.
As Jack said, it depends on putting the product in the subject line - if 
not, you can move it manually.
BTW, I use Thunderbird for my email client, and I receive individual 
posts.  Working with the digest is another problem entirely.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/2/2022 5:22 PM, Jack Brindle via Elecraft wrote:

Rick;

While I agree that it is pretty much critical to have the device name in the 
subject line, it would be a nightmare for the Elecraft support / development 
folks to follow multiple email lists. This is the reason that just a few lists 
were set up (I believe just one until the K4 came out).




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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 frequency memories question

[Jack Brindle via Elecraft]

Rick;

While I agree that it is pretty much critical to have the device name in the 
subject line, it would be a nightmare for the Elecraft support / development 
folks to follow multiple email lists. This is the reason that just a few lists 
were set up (I believe just one until the K4 came out). 

There is a lot of overlap between the various devices, so it is good to list 
each involved.

It is quite understandable for users to have set up external email lists for 
the devices, but don’t expect us to know about them, which explains my surprise 
(and delight) when I discovered the iogroups KPA500 list.
Learning things from other users is always good and mostly enjoyable!

73,
Jack, W6FB


> On Oct 2, 2022, at 2:51 PM, Rick Bates, NK7I  wrote:
> 
> It is, here.  The device being commented on, should be part of the header 
> when a thread is started so folks can read it or skip it.
> 
> But it's MUCH nicer to have separate groups for each item.  One may not have 
> a KX2, KAT500 or other Elecraft device and the often numerous and ponderously 
> long threads can add up to a LOT of email to be deleted.
> 
> Being a member of the specific device lists, limits that and the email noise 
> floor.  Being on a targeted list improves the chances of getting an accurate 
> answer or solution.
> 
> Having a varied interest in many things, I get a low of 50 emails a day, 
> sometimes peaking near 300 per day or more.  By limiting to the specific 
> groups of interest I find I can manage it better and when it gets too noisy 
> on a topic, I can drop out of that thread (if the list is on groups.io, most 
> of mine are).  Thankfully the lists don't 'blow up' often so the daily 
> average is under 100 most times.
> 
> Almost ALL of them are quickly deleted, less than 5% are answered and under 
> 1% get saved for future reference (that's what archive diving is all about).
> 
> 73,
> Rick nk7i
> 
> 
> On 10/2/2022 12:38 PM, j...@kk9a.com wrote:
>> It would be so nice if everything Elecraft related was in a single list.
>> 
>> John KK9A
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 frequency memories question

[Jim Brown]

On 10/2/2022 12:38 PM, j...@kk9a.com wrote:

It would be so nice if everything Elecraft related was in a single list.


YES! I own vintage K3s with P3/SVGAs, a KX3, a KAT500, a KPA500, and a 
KPA1500, and just got an email that my K4D is ready to ship.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 frequency memories question

[Rick Bates, NK7I]

It is, here.  The device being commented on, should be part of the 
header when a thread is started so folks can read it or skip it.


But it's MUCH nicer to have separate groups for each item.  One may not 
have a KX2, KAT500 or other Elecraft device and the often numerous and 
ponderously long threads can add up to a LOT of email to be deleted.


Being a member of the specific device lists, limits that and the email 
noise floor.  Being on a targeted list improves the chances of getting 
an accurate answer or solution.


Having a varied interest in many things, I get a low of 50 emails a day, 
sometimes peaking near 300 per day or more.  By limiting to the specific 
groups of interest I find I can manage it better and when it gets too 
noisy on a topic, I can drop out of that thread (if the list is on 
groups.io, most of mine are).  Thankfully the lists don't 'blow up' 
often so the daily average is under 100 most times.


Almost ALL of them are quickly deleted, less than 5% are answered and 
under 1% get saved for future reference (that's what archive diving is 
all about).


73,
Rick nk7i


On 10/2/2022 12:38 PM, j...@kk9a.com wrote:

It would be so nice if everything Elecraft related was in a single list.

John KK9A

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 frequency memories question

[john]

It would be so nice if everything Elecraft related was in a single list.

John KK9A


Jack Brindle W6FB wrote:

There is a KPA500 group?

73,
Jack, W6FB

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 frequency memories question

[Mike Dodd]

On 10/1/2022 11:37 PM, Jack Brindle wrote:

There is a KPA500 group?


It's on groups.io: 

--- Mike N4CF

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 frequency memories question

[Jack Brindle via Elecraft]

There is a KPA500 group?

73,
Jack, W6FB


> On Oct 1, 2022, at 9:37 PM, Mike Dodd  wrote:
> 
> I asked this in the KPA500 group, but it probably was too far off-topic, so 
> I'll try here.
> 
> I have a K4D/KPA500/KAT500. If I use the KAT utility program to save the 
> configuration, are the frequency memories' settings also save in the config 
> file?
> 
> So, if for some reason I need to restore a saved configuration to the KAT500, 
> will that restore the L/C settings to the frequency memories?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 73, Mike N4CF
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 frequency memories question

[Dick Dievendorff]

Yes
73 de Dick, K6JR

> On Oct 1, 2022, at 19:39, Mike Dodd  wrote:
> 
> I asked this in the KPA500 group, but it probably was too far off-topic, so 
> I'll try here.
> 
> I have a K4D/KPA500/KAT500. If I use the KAT utility program to save the 
> configuration, are the frequency memories' settings also save in the config 
> file?
> 
> So, if for some reason I need to restore a saved configuration to the KAT500, 
> will that restore the L/C settings to the frequency memories?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 73, Mike N4CF
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[Elecraft] KAT500 frequency memories question

[Mike Dodd]

I asked this in the KPA500 group, but it probably was too far off-topic, 
so I'll try here.


I have a K4D/KPA500/KAT500. If I use the KAT utility program to save the 
configuration, are the frequency memories' settings also save in the 
config file?


So, if for some reason I need to restore a saved configuration to the 
KAT500, will that restore the L/C settings to the frequency memories?


Thanks.

73, Mike N4CF
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