Re: [Elecraft] 200 Hz 5-pole filter

2015-07-28 Thread ok1rp
Hi all, I found over there the Plots for the Elecraft filters http://www.elecraft.com/K3/K3_filter_plots.htm but KFL3A-200 is missing. Is it possible to find somewhere the Plot also for this filter please? Thank You, 73 - Petr, OK1RP - http://ok1rp.blogspot.com -- View this message in

Re: [Elecraft] 200 Hz 5-pole filter

2015-07-26 Thread Bill Breeden
On 7/25/2015 1:47 PM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote: Message: 27 Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 11:04:20 -0700 (MST) From: XE3/K5ENS via Elecraftelecraft@mailman.qth.net To:elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 200 Hz 5-pole filter Message-ID:1437847460881-7605322.p...@n2.nabble.com

Re: [Elecraft] 200 Hz 5-pole filter

2015-07-26 Thread Jim Brown
On Sun,7/26/2015 5:33 PM, Bill Breeden wrote: The point I am trying to make is that a K3 with a 2.7 KHz filter and the DSP cranked down to 400 Hz will not perform as well for CW during crowded band conditions as a K3 with a 400 Hz filter. Hi Bill, That point is not lost on anyone, and is

Re: [Elecraft] 200 Hz 5-pole filter

2015-07-26 Thread Bill Breeden
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Re: [Elecraft] 200 Hz 5-pole filter

2015-07-26 Thread Bill Breeden
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Re: [Elecraft] 200 Hz 5-pole filter

2015-07-26 Thread Chortek Bob via Elecraft
...@cableone.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 200 Hz 5-pole filter Since Sherwood's Dynamic Range Narrow Spaced measurement is of great interest to CW operators, it only makes sense to make the measurement using a CW filter, optional

Re: [Elecraft] 200 Hz 5-pole filter

2015-07-26 Thread Jim Brown
On Sun,7/26/2015 2:02 PM, Bill Breeden wrote: Since Sherwood's Dynamic Range Narrow Spaced measurement is of great interest to CW operators, it only makes sense to make the measurement using a CW filter, optional or not. The measurement would be meaningless to CW operators if made using the

Re: [Elecraft] 200 Hz 5-pole filter

2015-07-26 Thread Wes (N7WS)
Why? On 7/26/2015 2:02 PM, Bill Breeden wrote: Since Sherwood's Dynamic Range Narrow Spaced measurement is of great interest to CW operators, it only makes sense to make the measurement using a CW filter, optional or not. The measurement would be meaningless to CW operators if made using

Re: [Elecraft] 200 Hz 5-pole filter

2015-07-25 Thread Bob McGraw - K4TAX
Oh but Rob does.See the notes at the bottom of the page for his Receiver Test Data. These reference p and q. These identify the filters used. Elecraft states what are optional vs. standard filters. */p/* with 200 Hz 5-pole filter /*q*/ with 400 Hz 8-pole filter 73 Bob, K4TAX

Re: [Elecraft] 200 Hz 5-pole filter

2015-07-25 Thread Bob McGraw - K4TAX
One can download the Sherwood list and save it to an EXCEL file. Then sort it by your own choosing. The Sherwood list is presented on one parameter only being dynamic range, narrow spaced. There's multiple other parameters that make for a fine receiver. 73 Bob, K4TAX On 7/25/2015 3:20 PM,

Re: [Elecraft] 200 Hz 5-pole filter

2015-07-25 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
On 2015-07-25 2:04 PM, XE3/K5ENS via Elecraft wrote: Apples and oranges. Nonsense. The IMDDR3 of a conventional transceiver will improve significantly if one turns on the attenuator. Reducing overall input to the Flex series 6 to keep the level below the ADC limit is no different than adding

Re: [Elecraft] 200 Hz 5-pole filter

2015-07-25 Thread XE3/K5ENS via Elecraft
That is not the Sherwood receiver list that everyone covets. Taking this data the K3 would be about 11th or 12th on the list with the stock 2.7hz filter. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/200-Hz-5-pole-filter-tp7605299p7605328.html Sent from the Elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] 200 Hz 5-pole filter

2015-07-25 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Not in most cases, since turning on the attenuator significantly reduces the MDS (sensitivity) of the RX. IMDDR3 is the difference between the input RX sig levels that created the IMD and the MDS of the RX. It may increase IMDDR3 slightly, or even reduce it, depending on which RX stages go into

Re: [Elecraft] 200 Hz 5-pole filter

2015-07-25 Thread Wayne Burdick
We're hoping to add the 200-Hz filter back to our product line as soon as possible. Meanwhile, the 400-Hz and 250-Hz filters also do an excellent job. As I've mentioned before, any radio with 2-kHz IMDDR3 numbers in the 100-dB-plus range is going to be a solid performer on the air. A dB here

Re: [Elecraft] 200 Hz 5-pole filter

2015-07-25 Thread Scott Manthe
No, and it's also from 2009, but that's not the point. The point is that there isn't going to be much difference between the 250hz 8 pole filter and the 200hz 5 pole filter. But think about your comment for a moment. A stock K3 with no additional filters is that good enough to rank that high.

Re: [Elecraft] 200 Hz 5-pole filter

2015-07-25 Thread XE3/K5ENS via Elecraft
Why are you talking about the Flex? I don't care where it is at on Sherwood's list. I never plan to own one. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/200-Hz-5-pole-filter-tp7605299p7605324.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Elecraft] 200 Hz 5-pole filter

2015-07-25 Thread Scott Manthe
Take a look at Table 2 on the bottom of page 4 of this PDF: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_arrl_review_jan09.pdf Scott N9AA On 7/25/15 1:45 PM, XE3/K5ENS via Elecraft wrote: That kinda voids Sherwood's no 2 ranking for the radio? -- View this message in context:

Re: [Elecraft] 200 Hz 5-pole filter

2015-07-25 Thread Phil Wheeler
Somehow what I like on the air, how it sounds, is of more interest to me that what's in an xls file, Bob. So I'm in accord with In any case, far too many people are far too concerned about the Sherwood rankings. The data is interesting, but not of primary interest -- to me. 73, Phil W7OX

[Elecraft] 200 Hz 5-pole filter

2015-07-24 Thread Dan Atchison via Elecraft
Am looking for a K3, 200 Hz 5-pole filter since Elecraft no longer sells them. Anyone out there have a spare? 73, Dan - N3ND __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:

Re: [Elecraft] 200 Hz 5-pole filter

2015-07-24 Thread Scott Manthe
I noticed this as well. Does anyone know why Elecraft has stopped selling them? I was looking to put one in my sub-rx. (Sorry I can't help you with your request, Dan) 73, Scott N9AA On 7/24/15 7:18 PM, Dan Atchison via Elecraft wrote: Am looking for a K3, 200 Hz 5-pole filter since Elecraft no

Re: [Elecraft] 200 Hz 5-pole filter

2015-07-24 Thread brian
This filter was my secret weapon when the going got tough-- especially on 160/80/40 M during contests. Wonder if it will make a comeback. The 250 Hz filter is really something like 350 Hz and really too wide at times. 73 de Brian/K3KO On 7/25/2015 0:08 AM, Scott Manthe wrote: I noticed

Re: [Elecraft] 200 Hz 5-pole filter

2015-07-24 Thread Wayne Burdick
Hi Scott, I'm hoping we can offer them again in the future. We were looking at possible design/manufacturing changes about the time we all got really busy with the K3S. 73, Wayne N6KR On Jul 24, 2015, at 5:08 PM, Scott Manthe scott.man...@gmail.com wrote: I noticed this as well. Does