[Elecraft] Background Noise with Mike Plugged in to Rear, , , Mike Jack

2021-11-26 Thread Bob McGraw
raft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Background Noise with Mike Plugged in to Rear, , Mike Jack Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed In my experience, the single most important factor in reducing RFI problems is to prevent RF from flowing back into the sta

Re: [Elecraft] Background Noise with Mike Plugged in to Rear, , Mike Jack

2021-11-26 Thread Jim Brown
Hi Vic, I'm quoting only the lead sentence for context, but ALL of this post is absolutely right! The only thing I would add is that proper bonding in the shack and in the home is also critical. BTW -- you and I have been working each other since about 1957! 73, Jim K9YC (ex-W8FNI) On

Re: [Elecraft] Background Noise with Mike Plugged in to Rear, , Mike Jack

2021-11-26 Thread Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP
In my experience, the single most important factor in reducing RFI problems is to prevent RF from flowing back into the station via common mode current on the feedline. This is easiest to do with balanced antennas. If they are coax-fed, then you need the appropriate choke at the feedpoint. And

[Elecraft] Background Noise with Mike Plugged in to Rear, , Mike Jack

2021-11-25 Thread JR
Re - Bob, K4TAX,  on whether to use ferrite beads to solve station issues ... ___ Several years ago, when I was a new ham, Bob K4TAX encouraged me to solve RFI/EMI and other issues, instead of populating the station with ferrite beads, and this admonition

Re: [Elecraft] Background Noise with Mike Plugged in to Rear, Mike Jack

2021-11-24 Thread David Herring
Correction: “bonded and grounded” not “bounded and grounded.” Sorry for typo…. ;-) 73, Dave - N5DCH > On Nov 24, 2021, at 11:49 AM, David Herring wrote: > > I don’t disagree with K4TAX. It’s up to the operator to work out RFI at > one’s station. > > But for the sake of clarity to

Re: [Elecraft] Background Noise with Mike Plugged in to Rear, Mike Jack

2021-11-24 Thread David Herring
I don’t disagree with K4TAX. It’s up to the operator to work out RFI at one’s station. But for the sake of clarity to those that may read this thread later… The rigs in question in this part of the thread are the K4. Every component of my station is bounded and grounded per K9YC’s

[Elecraft] Background Noise with Mike Plugged in to Rear, Mike Jack

2021-11-24 Thread Bob McGraw
Running my K3S, KPA500 and working 160M - 6M at 500 watts, using either a mike into the front of the radio, or my headset into the back, I experience NO RFI issues.  I don't have any toroids on any cables either.   I also run digital modes with a single USB cable between the computer and the

Re: [Elecraft] Background Noise with Mike Plugged in to Rear Mike Jack

2021-11-23 Thread Bill Frantz
The failure that lead me to a new CM-500 was a broken microphone attachment to the headphone. If I was CW/digital only, no microphone might be an improvement. :-) BTW, I got the replacement from B sales who listed it as a dynamic microphone. It isn't dynamic. It is electret and requires a

Re: [Elecraft] Background Noise with Mike Plugged in to Rear Mike Jack

2021-11-22 Thread Pete Smith N4ZR
Yes, I kind of think you are right, Jim.  I did not know about the requirement to set Lin In with Lin In selected, and Mic Gain with Mic selected.  I had been doing adjustments in Mic+Lin with the front panel Mic Gain only, assuming that in Mic +Lin it controlled both.  Whew - good to know

Re: [Elecraft] Background Noise with Mike Plugged in to Rear Mike Jack

2021-11-21 Thread Jim Brown
On 11/21/2021 9:50 PM, Wes wrote: If I wasn't the first, I was the second, person to recommend the CM-500. As far as I know, W6XU, who runs a consumer/semi-pro audio mfg biz, introduced the CM500 to ham radio with a large group purchase for the Northern California Contest Club. I'm guessing

Re: [Elecraft] Background Noise with Mike Plugged in to Rear Mike Jack

2021-11-21 Thread Wes
If I wasn't the first, I was the second, person to recommend the CM-500.  I've used them on both my original K3 and a new K3S.  IIRC I've gone through three of them; buying new ones when the pads wear out.  I have never had RFI issues with them (or anything else for that matter).  The only

Re: [Elecraft] Background Noise with Mike Plugged in to Rear Mike Jack

2021-11-21 Thread Jim Brown
On 11/21/2021 7:55 PM, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote: I don't think RFI is implicated.  I can hear the loud background noise even with the RF turned way down.  This is something else, I believe, perhaps something about the way the gain is distributed, or??? Hi Pete, I suspect you may be right. When

Re: [Elecraft] Background Noise with Mike Plugged in to Rear Mike Jack

2021-11-21 Thread Pete Smith N4ZR
I don't think RFI is implicated.  I can hear the loud background noise even with the RF turned way down.  This is something else, I believe, perhaps something about the way the gain is distributed, or??? 73, Pete N4ZR Check out the new Reverse Beacon Network web server

Re: [Elecraft] Background Noise with Mike Plugged in to Rear Mike Jack

2021-11-21 Thread Rick Tavan
Interesting. I tried a ferrite and, although it reduced the problem, it didn't cure it. I'm not sure it was a #31 mix, though, and I didn't wrap that many turns. Will try again. Sure wish toroids were labeled! Thanks, /Rick N6XI On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 5:55 PM David Herring wrote: > I also

Re: [Elecraft] Background Noise with Mike Plugged in to Rear Mike Jack

2021-11-21 Thread David Herring
I also had RF problems with the CM-500 plugged into the rear mic jack. The solution I’ve implemented so far was to wrap about 13 turns of the CM-500’s cord around a #31 toroid. It both shortened the cord which was way too long for my shack and eliminated the RF problem. A two-for-one solution.

Re: [Elecraft] Background Noise with Mike Plugged in to Rear Mike Jack

2021-11-21 Thread Rick Tavan
Hi, Pete. Try a dynamic mic or use the front panel (ugh) mic connector. I've had RFI problems at high power using a CM-500 on the rear panel mic jack. Elecraft are working on a fix. My Heil headset with dynamic mic works fine. 73, /Rick N6XI On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 5:32 PM Pete Smith N4ZR

[Elecraft] Background Noise with Mike Plugged in to Rear Mike Jack

2021-11-21 Thread Pete Smith N4ZR
I don't normally operate phone, but wanted to contribute a few QSOs to my club in SS SSB.  So I recorded messages on my external USB sound card, using Audacity.  They sounded fine, both on a speaker and on my K3's monitor.  So then I plugged my Yamaha CM-500 condenser mike headset into the