Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Bill]

I bite my tongue on this, but I wanted a matching speaker for my K3-Line 
back when I first go it. So - to my shop I went. The box was a size 
match for the P3 with a PHONE plug installed. I used 1/8 and 1/4 
plywoods for some of it and 1" pine for the bottom. I installed a Bose 
speaker found on eBay (very heavy magnet). The box was not filled with 
any deadening material, as it was constructed of wood. The back was 
sealed - with a single 1" hole on the rear.  Carefully finished (lots of 
hand sanding, filling, and several coats of black stain and flat 
varnish) and carefully labeled, the design looked perfect on the desk 
with the K3-Line. Performance was great - best sounding external speaker 
I ever used. Didn't cost much either - but, many many hours invested in 
building it. Kind of makes the new speaker from Elecraft look much 
better than building one.


Do I use my speaker now? No. I gave it away and now use Behringer MS40 
powered speakers. No design match, much bigger and heavier, two stereo 
inputs, built-in equalizer, and better sounding. Cost is comparable with 
the new Elecraft speaker. AFX rag chew sounds super on them.


It is all about choices.
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

Hi William,

The enclosure was designed as an integral part of the acoustic system to 
generate a desired SP3 response. Placing additional items inside the case will 
distort this response. 

Also, The case is totally filled with speaker 'filler' material to properly 
acoustic load the driver. This will negatively impact P.S. cooling. Also there 
is no venting in the box for heat removal.

73,

Eric
elecraft.com
_..._

> On Sep 15, 2015, at 9:39 AM, William Lagerberg PE1BSB  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I like the Speaker its looks far better then the SP8 from Yaesu i am using 
> now….., it’s for what it is a little bit expensive including tax and 
> transport to get it to holland, it will be i think around 260 dollars, but i 
> assume the quality wil make that right. And when the USB interface for the K3 
> is available it’s two for one freight costs.
> 
> But my comments:
> 
> First I would have liked a 3,5 mm headphone plug at the front. Some body 
> mentioned it and it is really a good idea.  
> 
> Next i have seen on question about room in the case for a power supply, i do 
> really like to investigate if it is possible to put a 25 / 30A power supply 
> into that empty housing. Perhaps even the one that Elecraft comments and 
> sells on it’s site SS30DV.
> 
> Is it possible somebody send a picture of the unit open.. perhaps the guys at 
> Elecraft…
> -
> Pe1bsb
> William lagerberg
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Jerry Moore]

If they did a stand alone UHF/VHF I'd suggest it have dual receivers, cross
band tx/rx capability and VFO tracking based on Doppler built in for SAT
work.

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim
Lowman
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 9:48 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

We should be grateful that we are dealing with a company like Elecraft,
where the principals listen to what their customers want and, wherever
possible, accommodate these requests.
Having a matching speaker was a requested item some time ago, if memory
serves.

If it's not possible for an individual to justify the cost, then the simple
answer is not to buy it.

My one request to Eric, last year at his presentation at Pacificon, was for
a standalone, all-mode transceiver for 2m and above.
My rationale was that, since Elecraft sells transverters for 2m, 220 MHz and
432 MHz, they already have the technology to make this possible.
It came down to the fact that there may not be a large enough market for
such a transceiver.  Makes sense.

73 de Jim - AD6CW

On 9/15/2015 6:46 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
> Manufacturers make those things because customers want them and buy them. 
73, Guy
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[ae4pb]

I still believe it may be possible with the K3S, KRX3 and transceivers to do 
Full cross band duplex. I'll look more closely after my rig is built and on the 
air. Makes for an expensive stand alone UHF/VHF rig tho unless you want HF too. 
But then it's probably overkill just to work SATs. I'll bet with the correct 
transverter we could hear the mars rovers tho. 

Jerry Moore
AE4PB, K3S SN# ARRIVES TODAY!!!


-Original Message-
From: Andy McMullin [mailto:a...@rickham.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 7:22 AM
To: Jerry Moore
Cc: Jim Lowman; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

I’d be interested in that spec too! 

Built-in soundcard for digital modes (with one USB connection for it and rig 
control) would be nice as well.

Regards
Andy, G8TQH


> On 16 Sep 2015, at 12:06, Jerry Moore <je...@carolinaheli.com> wrote:
> 
> If they did a stand alone UHF/VHF I'd suggest it have dual receivers, 
> cross band tx/rx capability and VFO tracking based on Doppler built in 
> for SAT work.
> 
>> [deletia]
>> 
>> My one request to Eric, last year at his presentation at Pacificon, 
>> was for a standalone, all-mode transceiver for 2m and above.
>> My rationale was that, since Elecraft sells transverters for 2m, 220 
>> MHz and
>> 432 MHz, they already have the technology to make this possible.
>> It came down to the fact that there may not be a large enough market 
>> for such a transceiver.  Makes sense.
>> 
>> 73 de Jim - AD6CW
>> 



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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Andy McMullin]

I’d be interested in that spec too! 

Built-in soundcard for digital modes (with one USB connection for it and rig 
control) would be nice as well.

Regards
Andy, G8TQH


> On 16 Sep 2015, at 12:06, Jerry Moore  wrote:
> 
> If they did a stand alone UHF/VHF I'd suggest it have dual receivers, cross
> band tx/rx capability and VFO tracking based on Doppler built in for SAT
> work.
> 
>> [deletia]
>> 
>> My one request to Eric, last year at his presentation at Pacificon, was for
>> a standalone, all-mode transceiver for 2m and above.
>> My rationale was that, since Elecraft sells transverters for 2m, 220 MHz and
>> 432 MHz, they already have the technology to make this possible.
>> It came down to the fact that there may not be a large enough market for
>> such a transceiver.  Makes sense.
>> 
>> 73 de Jim - AD6CW
>> 


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Bob]

I've made no decision yet on the purchase.

However I note with interest that the email title says "Speaker details".  But 
this thread has had none other than Wayne's statement of SPL.   I'm curious as 
to the response curve.  Is it flat or Communications?   I'd be looking for flat 
as in my opinion the K3 should deliver the desired response  and the SP3's job 
is to just make a faithful reproduction of it


More technical "details" are needed

73,
Bob
K2TK  ex KN2TKR (1956) & K2TKR

On 9/15/2015 11:06 PM, Alan wrote:

On 09/15/2015 07:17 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:

I am truly stunned that a simple speaker could generate this much
interest. :-)


Considering the endless discussions of headphones and microphones, I'm not 
surprised.  :=)


Alan N1AL




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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Wayne Burdick]

Hi Bob,

Here's an expanded list of specs on the SP3:

  Weight:  4 lb, 8.4 oz ( 2.5 kg)

  Speaker Size:  3” x 5” (77 x 127 mm)

  Speaker Impedance:  4 ohms   (note: the K3's internal speaker is also 4 ohms)

  Magnet Type:  Neodymium

  Power Handling Capability:  15 W

  Frequency Response:  100-20,000 Hz

  Sensitivity:  90 dB SPL

I will post a link to the frequency response curve shortly.

Wayne
N6KR



On Sep 16, 2015, at 9:36 AM, Bob  wrote:

> I've made no decision yet on the purchase.
> 
> However I note with interest that the email title says "Speaker details".  
> But this thread has had none other than Wayne's statement of SPL.   I'm 
> curious as to the response curve.  Is it flat or Communications?   I'd be 
> looking for flat as in my opinion the K3 should deliver the desired response  
> and the SP3's job is to just make a faithful reproduction of it
> 
> More technical "details" are needed
> 
> 73,
> Bob
> K2TK  ex KN2TKR (1956) & K2TKR



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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Wayne Burdick]

Hi Keith,

This all seemed pretty simple on our end:

- We've been asked a gazillion times for a matching speaker

- We worked with a speaker design expert to do the acoustic design,
  adding a versatile mono/stereo A/B switch for station integration

- We kept the price as low as we possible could, given the high parts cost
  for a rugged, all-metal enclosure w/tilt stand that matches the K-Line
  (and would be suitable for space-saving DIY built-ins like a 12-V UPS)

The result is the SP3. I wish we could price it like a pair of typical 
medium-power entertainment speakers, but that isn't possible given the 
packaging requirements.

So, yeahthe volume of traffic on this subject is a bit surprising. 

Yet, just as a volcano must erupt periodically to release tensions beneath the 
surface, so must an email forum periodically bubble and froth to satiate its 
hunger for intrigue and controversy ;)

Wayne
N6KR



On Sep 16, 2015, at 10:55 AM, Terry Schieler <w...@swbell.net> wrote:

> I'm guessing that Eric is looking at Wayne, OR, Wayne is looking at Eric 
> right now and saying "SEE.I told you so".  ;o)
> 
> Terry W0FM
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Alan [mailto:n...@sonic.net] 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 10:06 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
> 
> On 09/15/2015 07:17 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
>> I am truly stunned that a simple speaker could generate this much 
>> interest. :-)



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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Terry Schieler]

I'm guessing that Eric is looking at Wayne, OR, Wayne is looking at Eric right 
now and saying "SEE.I told you so".  ;o)

Terry W0FM

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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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On 09/15/2015 07:17 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
> I am truly stunned that a simple speaker could generate this much 
> interest. :-)


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Alan]

On 09/15/2015 07:17 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:

I am truly stunned that a simple speaker could generate this much
interest. :-)


Considering the endless discussions of headphones and microphones, I'm 
not surprised.  :=)


Alan N1AL

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Wes (N7WS)]

Hey, make note:  This is the ELECRAFT reflector.


On 9/15/2015 7:17 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:

I am truly stunned that a simple speaker could generate this much interest. :-)

73,

Fred K6DGW


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Wes (N7WS)]

There is.  Just as Henry Ford said, "You can have black or you can have black."

On 9/15/2015 8:10 PM, GRANT YOUNGMAN wrote:

It’s a good thing there isn’t a choice of cabinet color …. ;-)

Grant NQ5T




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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Gary]

Alan,

Elecraft knew I would buy the SP3 but because I finished my operating space for 
the k-line first I am forced to buy a P3 now so they can both sit on top of the 
k-3 and not get launched at the first bend in the road.

Now I call THAT marketing magic.

Gary 

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Sent: ‎16/‎09/‎2015 1:07 PM
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

On 09/15/2015 07:17 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
> I am truly stunned that a simple speaker could generate this much
> interest. :-)

Considering the endless discussions of headphones and microphones, I'm 
not surprised.  :=)

Alan N1AL

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[GRANT YOUNGMAN]

It’s a good thing there isn’t a choice of cabinet color …. ;-)

Grant NQ5T


> On Sep 15, 2015, at 10:06 PM, Alan  wrote:
> 
> On 09/15/2015 07:17 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
>> I am truly stunned that a simple speaker could generate this much
>> interest. :-)
> 
> Considering the endless discussions of headphones and microphones, I'm not 
> surprised.  :=)
> 
> Alan N1AL
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Jim Lowman]

We should be grateful that we are dealing with a company like Elecraft, 
where the principals listen to what their customers want and, wherever 
possible, accommodate these requests.
Having a matching speaker was a requested item some time ago, if memory 
serves.


If it's not possible for an individual to justify the cost, then the 
simple answer is not to buy it.


My one request to Eric, last year at his presentation at Pacificon, was 
for a standalone, all-mode transceiver for 2m and above.
My rationale was that, since Elecraft sells transverters for 2m, 220 MHz 
and 432 MHz, they already have the technology to make this possible.
It came down to the fact that there may not be a large enough market for 
such a transceiver.  Makes sense.


73 de Jim - AD6CW

On 9/15/2015 6:46 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
Manufacturers make those things because customers want them and buy them. 

73, Guy
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Fred Jensen]

I am truly stunned that a simple speaker could generate this much 
interest. :-)


73,

Fred K6DGW
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On 9/14/2015 9:53 PM, k...@arrl.net wrote:

Or for the same price as 2 SP3's

  http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/speakers/1301.html


73 Jeff kb2m


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Gary]

Groan.
Gary 

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Sent: ‎16/‎09/‎2015 1:11 PM
To: "Elecraft Reflector" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

It’s a good thing there isn’t a choice of cabinet color …. ;-)

Grant NQ5T


> On Sep 15, 2015, at 10:06 PM, Alan <n...@sonic.net> wrote:
> 
> On 09/15/2015 07:17 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
>> I am truly stunned that a simple speaker could generate this much
>> interest. :-)
> 
> Considering the endless discussions of headphones and microphones, I'm not 
> surprised.  :=)
> 
> Alan N1AL
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Don Wilhelm]

As Henry Ford reportedly said "you can have it in any color as long as 
it is black":-)


73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/15/2015 11:10 PM, GRANT YOUNGMAN wrote:

It’s a good thing there isn’t a choice of cabinet color …. ;-)




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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Terry]

Just because others are doing it doesn't make it right!

73,
Terry, KQ5U


On 9/14/2015 10:01 PM, Gene Gabry wrote:


Very good point Tony
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/speakers/1696.html

Puts things into perspective :)

73 Gene N9TF

K3S 10057


Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
Have any of you who are complaining seen the prices of speakers from other

radio manufacturers?  How about the other third-party speaker makers?

Elecraft is in the ballpark.
A lot of folks asked (begged, bugged, pestered...) Elecraft to come out

with a speaker for the line.  They finally relented.  Thank you, Elecraft!


73, Tony K4QE

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[Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Johnny Siu]

The retail price of ICOM SP23 in Akihabara, Tokyo is now about USD80.  
73
Johnny VR2XMC  寄件人︰ Terry <tmyers1...@sbcglobal.net>
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Just because others are doing it doesn't make it right!

73,
Terry, KQ5U


On 9/14/2015 10:01 PM, Gene Gabry wrote:
>
> Very good point Tony
> http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/speakers/1696.html
>
> Puts things into perspective :)
>
> 73 Gene N9TF
>
> K3S 10057
>
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
>> Have any of you who are complaining seen the prices of speakers from other
> radio manufacturers?  How about the other third-party speaker makers?
>> Elecraft is in the ballpark.
>> A lot of folks asked (begged, bugged, pestered...) Elecraft to come out
> with a speaker for the line.  They finally relented.  Thank you, Elecraft!
>
>> 73, Tony K4QE
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Guy Olinger K2AV]

Terry, KQ5U wrote:

> Just because others are doing it doesn't make it right!


Right? As in breaking a law or violating a bible verse or something?

These things are just purchase choices. Might as well complain about
wallpaper. Something done both functional and pretty. Sometimes "pretty" is
very useful in the household environment, where someone (nobody named)
insists on the station "looking good" or moving "that mess" to the unheated
garage.

A lot of matching speakers have been sold over eight decades, as in back to
the 1940's matching speaker for a National NC-2-40-D and its sibling
variants, which was a good looking ginormous heavy matching style boat
anchor electromagnet speaker near as big as the 240D.
http://www.tuberadio.com/240d/240D.html  Note the matching feet. Great
sound by the way, for listening to AM music broadcast. Magnet current for
the electromagnet in the speaker came from the radio.

Manufacturers make those things because customers want them and buy them.
Just to name a few of the many more, Collins had a matching speaker for the
gold dust twins and then for the S line. Heathkit's SB series had a
matching speaker SB600 which could hold the power supply for an
SB100/101/102 transceiver. This goes on without a break to the current day.
I'm sure Wayne had a huge stack of requests to justify the business
expense. He ain't building anything without a market. (We should have
figured that out by now.)

There's a long, long tradition very firmly behind visually matching speaker
units. And then one must remember that a lot of people voted for these with
their wallets. If they want to buy it, and if it ain't illegal, poisonous,
explosive,  or whatever dangerous, why not?

To my way of thinking, it's just another thing that keeps our manufacturer
profitable, and therefore still in business. I like that "still in
business" thing. Means I'm still getting new development, fixes, etc.

73, Guy
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Phil Wheeler]

Always good prices there; of course getting there 
is expensive for most of us :-)


Phil W7OX

On 9/15/15 4:25 AM, Johnny Siu wrote:

The retail price of ICOM SP23 in Akihabara, Tokyo is now about USD80.
73
Johnny VR2XMC


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[Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Johnny Siu]

Hello Gene,
I do not want to publicize any Japanese dealer in this mail listing because I 
am not a radio dealer or doing any radio dealing business.
The official full listed price of Icom SP23 is JPY12,800 (+VAT)
IC-7600　オプション｜アマチュア無線機器｜アイコム株式会社

|   |
|   |  |   |   |   |   |   |
| IC-7600　オプション｜アマチュア無線機器｜アイ...SP-23 外部スピーカー 145（W）mm × 111（H）mm × 282.5（D）mm 
（突起物除く） \12,800＋税  |
|  |
| 查看於 www.icom.co.jp | Yahoo 預覽 |
|  |
|   |


As a foreigner, we have no need to pay any VAT in Japan.  Furthermore, street 
retail price is at a handsome discount on the official full listed price.
If you want me to give your more details about ham shops in Akihabara, Tokyo, 
please feel free to contact me off-the-list.
73
Johnny VR2XMC  寄件人︰ Gene Gabry <n...@comcast.net>
 收件人︰ elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 傳送日期︰ 2015年09月15日 (週二) 8:46 PM
 主題︰ Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
   
Johnny,

Are you sure that's not a knock off at that price? With the yen devalued, 
hovering around 120:1(USD), I would think it would be more expensive in Japan 
than what it sells for in the US. I've been to Akihabara many times, and I 
would tend to question its authenticity. I'll be back there this October, and 
will check it out. 


73 Gene N9TF

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Johnny Siu
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 6:25 AM
To: tmyers1...@sbcglobal.net; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

The retail price of ICOM SP23 in Akihabara, Tokyo is now about USD80.
73
Johnny VR2XMC      寄件人︰ Terry <tmyers1...@sbcglobal.net>
 收件人︰ elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 傳送日期︰ 2015年09月15日 (週二) 7:08 PM
 主題︰ Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
  
Just because others are doing it doesn't make it right!

73,
Terry, KQ5U


On 9/14/2015 10:01 PM, Gene Gabry wrote:
>
> Very good point Tony
> http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/speakers/1696.html
>
> Puts things into perspective :)
>
> 73 Gene N9TF
>
> K3S 10057
>
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details Have 
>> any of you who are complaining seen the prices of speakers from other
> radio manufacturers?  How about the other third-party speaker makers?
>> Elecraft is in the ballpark.
>> A lot of folks asked (begged, bugged, pestered...) Elecraft to come 
>> out
> with a speaker for the line.  They finally relented.  Thank you, Elecraft!
>
>> 73, Tony K4QE

  
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Gene Gabry]

Johnny,

Are you sure that's not a knock off at that price? With the yen devalued, 
hovering around 120:1(USD), I would think it would be more expensive in Japan 
than what it sells for in the US. I've been to Akihabara many times, and I 
would tend to question its authenticity. I'll be back there this October, and 
will check it out. 


73 Gene N9TF

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Johnny Siu
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 6:25 AM
To: tmyers1...@sbcglobal.net; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

The retail price of ICOM SP23 in Akihabara, Tokyo is now about USD80.
73
Johnny VR2XMC  寄件人︰ Terry <tmyers1...@sbcglobal.net>
 收件人︰ elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 傳送日期︰ 2015年09月15日 (週二) 7:08 PM
 主題︰ Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
   
Just because others are doing it doesn't make it right!

73,
Terry, KQ5U


On 9/14/2015 10:01 PM, Gene Gabry wrote:
>
> Very good point Tony
> http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/speakers/1696.html
>
> Puts things into perspective :)
>
> 73 Gene N9TF
>
> K3S 10057
>
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details Have 
>> any of you who are complaining seen the prices of speakers from other
> radio manufacturers?  How about the other third-party speaker makers?
>> Elecraft is in the ballpark.
>> A lot of folks asked (begged, bugged, pestered...) Elecraft to come 
>> out
> with a speaker for the line.  They finally relented.  Thank you, Elecraft!
>
>> 73, Tony K4QE
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Jim Bolit]

Cost and price are "loosely coupled".
Apple products are a perfect example of this
JimW6AIM

.

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From: Mike Reublin NF4L <n...@comcast.net>
Date: 9/14/2015  6:11 PM  (GMT-06:00)
To: Cliff Frescura <c...@cfcorp.com>
Cc: Elecraft List <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

I can't imagine what makes it cost that much. Too rich for my anemic blood.

73, Mike NF4L


> On Sep 14, 2015, at 4:24 PM, Cliff Frescura <c...@cfcorp.com> wrote:
>
> Didn't ask. But the web site lists the SP3 at $179

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Ray Sills]

I’d challenge anyone to make a perfect clone of the SP3 speaker, and do it for 
less.  Sure, a offshore company might be able to make a close copy and sell for 
less, but that is likely due to the abysmal compensation paid to many workers 
there.

If you were to build an SP3 yourself, it’s not merely the cost of components 
and materials, but also the cost of tools (fine, if you have them already)  and 
the time it takes to build and test it.  Yes, it might be “fun” to build it, 
but the fact is you are paying for your labor… in time that is taken from some 
other enterprise.  Time is money, too.  

And, you would have to include the time it takes to plan (engineer), gather 
materials, and the place where you will build it.
All of those tend to be invisible costs, but they are costs.  I’m sure many 
people would prefer to take advantage of the economies of scale, and let 
Elecraft make the speaker for them.

Of course, everyone lives on some sort of budget, and the price of the SP3 puts 
it out of reach for some people.  As mentioned, I think the market will decide.

73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211… and no need for the SP3.



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[Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[William Lagerberg PE1BSB]

Hi all,

I like the Speaker its looks far better then the SP8 from Yaesu i am using 
now….., it’s for what it is a little bit expensive including tax and transport 
to get it to holland, it will be i think around 260 dollars, but i assume the 
quality wil make that right. And when the USB interface for the K3 is available 
it’s two for one freight costs.

But my comments:

First I would have liked a 3,5 mm headphone plug at the front. Some body 
mentioned it and it is really a good idea.  

Next i have seen on question about room in the case for a power supply, i do 
really like to investigate if it is possible to put a 25 / 30A power supply 
into that empty housing. Perhaps even the one that Elecraft comments and sells 
on it’s site SS30DV.


Is it possible somebody send a picture of the unit open.. perhaps the guys at 
Elecraft…



--
Pe1bsb
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Mike Markowski]

Following up on Jim w6aim's comment, a friend of mine used to design 
cell phones was amazed at marketing people.  She says the difference in 
memory options, e.g., 16/32/64 GB, had an actual cost difference of 
US$1.  But the marketing group turned it into $100 difference - and 
people pay.  She said the engineering group incorrectly believed no one 
would fall for it!


Regarding radio speakers, I currently use out of production Dell 
computer speakers, left overs from work:


  http://www.amazon.com/Dell-A525-Computer-Speakers-Subwoofer/dp/B000GSVPLO

which are great with K3 and also listening to streaming music, youtube, 
etc.  They cost well under $100.  If pair of Elecraft speakers cost 4x 
as much & offer 4x as much (any specs yet?), it's a good deal.  But 
aesthetic value is uniquely personal - which is why such a long thread! 
 For me, Dell will likely be fine.  :-)


73,
Mike ab3ap

On 09/15/2015 09:00 AM, Jim Bolit wrote:

Cost and price are "loosely coupled".
Apple products are a perfect example of this
JimW6AIM

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[ae4pb]

I believe when you consider the engineering reputation of Elecraft and
economies of scale for the manufacture of the SP3 several expectations
arise:
1. This is likely a very well-engineered component that's not easily
replaced by a similar sized speaker. 
2. Performance of the speaker exceeds similarly priced speakers (and
definitely less expensive ones to a degree). 
3. There is NOT likely a premium baked in to the price for the Elecraft name
due to the economies of scale (low quantity manufacture generally means
higher costs, thus higher price). Translation - the price isn't just for the
name.

At the end of the day consider the labor costs plus parts are likely fairly
high if they are US manufactured. 

The US consumer is the sole reason most US manufacturing has gone overseas
(especially China). Buy cheap, get cheap.

So it comes down to a question of quality vs "good enough" vs "price" 

I can only speak for myself in saying that it means something to have a
matching set rather than a hodgepodge. 
I do compromise and use what I have to be able to get the job done UNTIL
I've saved enough for the next piece. 

Personally the SP3 is last on my list because most if not all of my
operating will be with headphones. 
The point here is that it's on my list :)



Jerry Moore
AE4PB, K3S SN# Arrives Wed. 






-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob
McGraw - K4TAX
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 3:28 PM
To: Wayne Burdick; Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

New products are always welcome.  I look forward to "hearing them" at maybe
one of the next ham fests.  I like the fact the SP3 uses an oval speaker.
I've never figured out exactly why, but I find ovals typically do sound
better than rounds, but maybe it seems to be only in my findings.

As a comment, I prefer non-amplified speakers as this avoids the potential
RFI issues when used with the radio.  The model that I mentioned and use has
a slight tilt to the bottom which aligns the front with the K3S with its
front elevated by the stand.

I also find the audio system in the K3S to be really nice, specially the
2 channel effect using the AFX feature along with a stereo speaker
configuration.  This give a nice wide spatial effect to which I find very
pleasing.  Thanks Wayne and company for doing a fine job with the K3S and
its new features.

73
Bob, K4TAX
K3S s/n 10,163

On 9/13/2015 2:09 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> The K3 or K3S will work with a wide range of speakers, including the ones
Bob (K4TAX) mentioned.
>
> Here are some possible reasons for using an SP3:
>
> - matches the K-Line perfectly, including a rugged fold-up tilt stand
> - full stereo A/B source selection, supporting dual-rig and 
> dual-speaker configurations (or both)
> - plenty of room inside the cabinet for built-ins that might improve 
> station integration
>
> Of course these factors don't apply to everyone. But the good news is 
> that we will no longer have to say "maybe next year" every time 
> someone asks us to add a matching speaker to the product line :)
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
> Bob McGraw - K4TAX <rmcg...@blomand.net> wrote:
>
>> I use a pair of "off the shelf" brand speakers which have 2" x 4" ovals
in a nice efficient solid enclosure that is 5" deep
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[ac5p]

Jerry's (AE4PB) post and others suggest new speaker is actually made in the 
USA.  Is that true??
Mike  AC5P   


 On Monday, September 14, 2015 10:34 AM, "ae...@carolinaheli.com" 
<ae...@carolinaheli.com> wrote:
   

 I believe when you consider the engineering reputation of Elecraft and
economies of scale for the manufacture of the SP3 several expectations
arise:
1. This is likely a very well-engineered component that's not easily
replaced by a similar sized speaker. 
2. Performance of the speaker exceeds similarly priced speakers (and
definitely less expensive ones to a degree). 
3. There is NOT likely a premium baked in to the price for the Elecraft name
due to the economies of scale (low quantity manufacture generally means
higher costs, thus higher price). Translation - the price isn't just for the
name.

At the end of the day consider the labor costs plus parts are likely fairly
high if they are US manufactured. 

The US consumer is the sole reason most US manufacturing has gone overseas
(especially China). Buy cheap, get cheap.

So it comes down to a question of quality vs "good enough" vs "price" 

I can only speak for myself in saying that it means something to have a
matching set rather than a hodgepodge. 
I do compromise and use what I have to be able to get the job done UNTIL
I've saved enough for the next piece. 

Personally the SP3 is last on my list because most if not all of my
operating will be with headphones. 
The point here is that it's on my list :)



Jerry Moore
AE4PB, K3S SN# Arrives Wed. 






-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob
McGraw - K4TAX
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 3:28 PM
To: Wayne Burdick; Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

New products are always welcome.  I look forward to "hearing them" at maybe
one of the next ham fests.  I like the fact the SP3 uses an oval speaker.
I've never figured out exactly why, but I find ovals typically do sound
better than rounds, but maybe it seems to be only in my findings.

As a comment, I prefer non-amplified speakers as this avoids the potential
RFI issues when used with the radio.  The model that I mentioned and use has
a slight tilt to the bottom which aligns the front with the K3S with its
front elevated by the stand.

I also find the audio system in the K3S to be really nice, specially the
2 channel effect using the AFX feature along with a stereo speaker
configuration.  This give a nice wide spatial effect to which I find very
pleasing.  Thanks Wayne and company for doing a fine job with the K3S and
its new features.

73
Bob, K4TAX
K3S s/n 10,163

On 9/13/2015 2:09 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> The K3 or K3S will work with a wide range of speakers, including the ones
Bob (K4TAX) mentioned.
>
> Here are some possible reasons for using an SP3:
>
> - matches the K-Line perfectly, including a rugged fold-up tilt stand
> - full stereo A/B source selection, supporting dual-rig and 
> dual-speaker configurations (or both)
> - plenty of room inside the cabinet for built-ins that might improve 
> station integration
>
> Of course these factors don't apply to everyone. But the good news is 
> that we will no longer have to say "maybe next year" every time 
> someone asks us to add a matching speaker to the product line :)
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
> Bob McGraw - K4TAX <rmcg...@blomand.net> wrote:
>
>> I use a pair of "off the shelf" brand speakers which have 2" x 4" ovals
in a nice efficient solid enclosure that is 5" deep
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[ae4pb]

I guess I shouldn't have assumed anything but I did..


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a...@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 12:03 PM
To: ae...@carolinaheli.com; 'Bob McGraw - K4TAX'; 'Wayne Burdick'; 'Elecraft 
Reflector'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

Jerry's (AE4PB) post and others suggest new speaker is actually made in the 
USA.  Is that true??
Mike  AC5P   


 On Monday, September 14, 2015 10:34 AM, "ae...@carolinaheli.com" 
<ae...@carolinaheli.com> wrote:
   

 I believe when you consider the engineering reputation of Elecraft and 
economies of scale for the manufacture of the SP3 several expectations
arise:
1. This is likely a very well-engineered component that's not easily replaced 
by a similar sized speaker. 
2. Performance of the speaker exceeds similarly priced speakers (and definitely 
less expensive ones to a degree). 
3. There is NOT likely a premium baked in to the price for the Elecraft name 
due to the economies of scale (low quantity manufacture generally means higher 
costs, thus higher price). Translation - the price isn't just for the name.

At the end of the day consider the labor costs plus parts are likely fairly 
high if they are US manufactured. 

The US consumer is the sole reason most US manufacturing has gone overseas 
(especially China). Buy cheap, get cheap.

So it comes down to a question of quality vs "good enough" vs "price" 

I can only speak for myself in saying that it means something to have a 
matching set rather than a hodgepodge. 
I do compromise and use what I have to be able to get the job done UNTIL I've 
saved enough for the next piece. 

Personally the SP3 is last on my list because most if not all of my operating 
will be with headphones. 
The point here is that it's on my list :)



Jerry Moore
AE4PB, K3S SN# Arrives Wed. 






-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob 
McGraw - K4TAX
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 3:28 PM
To: Wayne Burdick; Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

New products are always welcome.  I look forward to "hearing them" at maybe one 
of the next ham fests.  I like the fact the SP3 uses an oval speaker.
I've never figured out exactly why, but I find ovals typically do sound better 
than rounds, but maybe it seems to be only in my findings.

As a comment, I prefer non-amplified speakers as this avoids the potential RFI 
issues when used with the radio.  The model that I mentioned and use has a 
slight tilt to the bottom which aligns the front with the K3S with its front 
elevated by the stand.

I also find the audio system in the K3S to be really nice, specially the
2 channel effect using the AFX feature along with a stereo speaker 
configuration.  This give a nice wide spatial effect to which I find very 
pleasing.  Thanks Wayne and company for doing a fine job with the K3S and its 
new features.

73
Bob, K4TAX
K3S s/n 10,163

On 9/13/2015 2:09 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> The K3 or K3S will work with a wide range of speakers, including the 
> ones
Bob (K4TAX) mentioned.
>
> Here are some possible reasons for using an SP3:
>
> - matches the K-Line perfectly, including a rugged fold-up tilt stand
> - full stereo A/B source selection, supporting dual-rig and 
> dual-speaker configurations (or both)
> - plenty of room inside the cabinet for built-ins that might improve 
> station integration
>
> Of course these factors don't apply to everyone. But the good news is 
> that we will no longer have to say "maybe next year" every time 
> someone asks us to add a matching speaker to the product line :)
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
> Bob McGraw - K4TAX <rmcg...@blomand.net> wrote:
>
>> I use a pair of "off the shelf" brand speakers which have 2" x 4" 
>> ovals
in a nice efficient solid enclosure that is 5" deep
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Cliff Frescura]

Didn't ask. But the web site lists the SP3 at $179

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Brian
& Cyndi
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 1:06 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

Did the boys at HamCon quote a price for the speaker?

73,
Brian, W6FVI


On 9/14/2015 11:51 AM, Cliff Frescura wrote:
> I don't know where it is made, but I was able to see one in the flesh 
> at HamCon this past weekend and it has a solid feel and weight to it 
> (in addition to sounding great too).  Seems like a no brainer addition to
me.
>
> One wish would be to have the headphone jack on the speaker and use 
> the input switch (as an output switch) to switch between headphone and 
> speaker, so that the headphones can stay plugged in (I modified my 
> SP-940 to work this way)
>
> 73,
>
> Cliff K3LL/6
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of 
> ae...@carolinaheli.com
> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 10:39 AM
> To: a...@sbcglobal.net; ae...@carolinaheli.com; 'Bob McGraw - K4TAX'; 
> 'Wayne Burdick'; 'Elecraft Reflector'
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
>
> I guess I shouldn't have assumed anything but I did..
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of 
> a...@sbcglobal.net
> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 12:03 PM
> To: ae...@carolinaheli.com; 'Bob McGraw - K4TAX'; 'Wayne Burdick'; 
> 'Elecraft Reflector'
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
>
> Jerry's (AE4PB) post and others suggest new speaker is actually made 
> in the USA.  Is that true??
> Mike  AC5P
>
>
>   On Monday, September 14, 2015 10:34 AM, "ae...@carolinaheli.com"
> <ae...@carolinaheli.com> wrote:
> 
>
>   I believe when you consider the engineering reputation of Elecraft 
> and economies of scale for the manufacture of the SP3 several 
> expectations
> arise:
> 1. This is likely a very well-engineered component that's not easily 
> replaced by a similar sized speaker.
> 2. Performance of the speaker exceeds similarly priced speakers (and 
> definitely less expensive ones to a degree).
> 3. There is NOT likely a premium baked in to the price for the 
> Elecraft name due to the economies of scale (low quantity manufacture 
> generally means higher costs, thus higher price). Translation - the 
> price isn't just for the name.
>
> At the end of the day consider the labor costs plus parts are likely 
> fairly high if they are US manufactured.
>
> The US consumer is the sole reason most US manufacturing has gone 
> overseas (especially China). Buy cheap, get cheap.
>
> So it comes down to a question of quality vs "good enough" vs "price"
>
> I can only speak for myself in saying that it means something to have 
> a matching set rather than a hodgepodge.
> I do compromise and use what I have to be able to get the job done 
> UNTIL I've saved enough for the next piece.
>
> Personally the SP3 is last on my list because most if not all of my 
> operating will be with headphones.
> The point here is that it's on my list :)
>
>
>
> Jerry Moore
> AE4PB, K3S SN# Arrives Wed.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of 
> Bob McGraw - K4TAX
> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 3:28 PM
> To: Wayne Burdick; Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
>
> New products are always welcome.  I look forward to "hearing them" at 
> maybe one of the next ham fests.  I like the fact the SP3 uses an oval
speaker.
> I've never figured out exactly why, but I find ovals typically do 
> sound better than rounds, but maybe it seems to be only in my findings.
>
> As a comment, I prefer non-amplified speakers as this avoids the 
> potential RFI issues when used with the radio.  The model that I 
> mentioned and use has a slight tilt to the bottom which aligns the 
> front with the K3S with its front elevated by the stand.
>
> I also find the audio system in the K3S to be really nice, specially 
> the
> 2 channel effect using the AFX feature along with a stereo speaker 
> configuration.  This give a nice wide spatial effect to which I find 
> very pleasing.  Thanks Wayne and company for doing a fine job with the 
> K3S and its new features.
>
> 73
> Bob, K4TAX
> K3S s/n 10,163
>
> On 9/13/2015 2:09 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> The K3 or K3S will work with a wide range of spea

Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[mfsj]

OMG OM cheap at twice the price 8>)
Fred/N0AZZ


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Original message From: Mike Reublin NF4L <n...@comcast.net> Date: 
09/14/2015  6:11 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Cliff Frescura <c...@cfcorp.com> Cc: 
Elecraft List <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 
External Speaker details 
I can't imagine what makes it cost that much. Too rich for my anemic blood.

73, Mike NF4L


> On Sep 14, 2015, at 4:24 PM, Cliff Frescura <c...@cfcorp.com> wrote:
> 
> Didn't ask. But the web site lists the SP3 at $179

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Mike Reublin NF4L]

Not even at half that. Maybe it's a misplaced decimal punkt. . . . . .

73, Mike NF4L


> On Sep 14, 2015, at 7:24 PM, mfsj  wrote:
> 
> OMG OM cheap at twice the price 8>)
> 
> Fred/N0AZZ

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Anthony Scandurra]

Have any of you who are complaining seen the prices of speakers from other
radio manufacturers?  How about the other third-party speaker makers?
Elecraft is in the ballpark.

A lot of folks asked (begged, bugged, pestered...) Elecraft to come out
with a speaker for the line.  They finally relented.  Thank you, Elecraft!

73, Tony K4QE
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

Yes, the SP3 is made in California, as are all of our radios.

73,
Eric
/elecraft.com/

On 9/14/2015 9:02 AM, a...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

Jerry's (AE4PB) post and others suggest new speaker is actually made in the 
USA.  Is that true??
Mike  AC5P


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Doug Person via Elecraft]

I have to admit that I, too, find $179 for a passive speaker in a metal 
cabinet shockingly expensive.  I was expecting $99.  The price just gets 
a shrug and an "Oh well.." from me.  Not a chance I would spend that 
kind of money on a speaker just because it matches the K-Line.


Doug -- K0DXV

On 9/14/2015 5:42 PM, Mike Reublin NF4L wrote:

Not even at half that. Maybe it's a misplaced decimal punkt. . . . . .

73, Mike NF4L



On Sep 14, 2015, at 7:24 PM, mfsj  wrote:

OMG OM cheap at twice the price 8>)

Fred/N0AZZ

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details [Updated photos]

[Harry Yingst via Elecraft]

Looks sharp, Looks like I need to make a little more room on the desk


  From: Wayne Burdick <n...@elecraft.com>
 To: elecraft...@yahoogroups.com 
Cc: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> 
 Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 9:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details [Updated photos]
   
Here are two much better photos of the SP3:

  http://www.elecraft.com/K3/sp3_2a.jpg
  http://www.elecraft.com/K3/sp3_1a.jpg

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Gary]

I actually owned an FTDX9000 and the matching speaker.

This is just my observation, the speaker was a disappointment, BUT, the 9000's 
internal speakers were excellent. Amazing quality noticed by my really not good 
hearing as well as Tinitus.

I have now moved to headphones for serious operating, casual use I find the 
newly upgraded audio on my k3 pretty good.

Gary 

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Sent: ‎15/‎09/‎2015 2:54 PM
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Subject: [Elecraft]   Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

Or for the same price as 2 SP3's

 http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/speakers/1301.html


73 Jeff kb2m



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[Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[James F. Boehner MD via Elecraft]

How about this one:

http://www.hamradio.com/detail.cfm?pid=H0-011764#results 

Of note, I've never used the passive audio filters on this or the SP-20.

'73 de JIM N2ZZ


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From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gene
Gabry
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 11:01 PM
To: 'Elecraft Reflector'
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details



Very good point Tony
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/speakers/1696.html

Puts things into perspective :) 

73 Gene N9TF

K3S 10057

>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

>Have any of you who are complaining seen the prices of speakers from 
>other
radio manufacturers?  How about the other third-party speaker makers?
>Elecraft is in the ballpark.

>A lot of folks asked (begged, bugged, pestered...) Elecraft to come out
with a speaker for the line.  They finally relented.  Thank you, Elecraft!

>73, Tony K4QE
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details [Updated photos]

[Walter Underwood]

Honestly, I’d keep the KPA500 just to take out the occasional raccoon.

wunder
K6WRU
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)

> On Sep 14, 2015, at 8:11 PM, Fred Jensen  wrote:
> 
> OK, just curious here, how can a simple speaker with nice looking enclosure 
> get this much traffic on the list?  I'm pretty sure it doesn't have any DSP 
> firmware, I don't think it has any IMD figures, and I'm very sure it doesn't 
> need any 8 MHz roofing filters.
> 
> I may buy one [SO1R here], just for the looks, my KPA500 may be headed for 
> the auction block, I'll have a flag pole antenna, but I really don't want to 
> electrocute the neighbor kids or the bunnies who eat my grass. Remote to W7RN 
> will happen soon too.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Fred K6DGW
> - Northern California Contest Club
> - CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
> - www.cqp.org
> 
> On 9/14/2015 7:44 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
>> Looks sharp, Looks like I need to make a little more room on the desk
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Gary]

Johnny,

It will (as it should) carry the stigma of being a copy from a serial offender 
and it may indeed be adequate in performance for many, but it would never carry 
the reputation of quality that comes from being a genuine Elecraft product.

The market will decide how well the SP3 is accepted just as the market will 
decide on any alternative offerings from other manufacturers.

Some if not many of us will choose the SP3, over any alternative, others will 
make their own choice.

It's a free world (up to a point)   I choose Elecraft.

I borrowed 2cents to throw in here. Our dollar has sunk so low I need a 
submarine to find  it.
Gary 

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Sent: ‎15/‎09/‎2015 1:43 PM
To: "Doug Person" <k0...@aol.com>; "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
<elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

With my due respect to intellectual right, I would feel this price tag will 
trigger a Chinese variant at 1/3 price with similar appearance but unknown 
quality.
73
Johnny VR2XMC
  寄件人︰ Doug Person via Elecraft <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
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 主題︰ Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
   
I have to admit that I, too, find $179 for a passive speaker in a metal 
cabinet shockingly expensive.  I was expecting $99.  The price just gets 
a shrug and an "Oh well.." from me.  Not a chance I would spend that 
kind of money on a speaker just because it matches the K-Line.

Doug -- K0DXV

On 9/14/2015 5:42 PM, Mike Reublin NF4L wrote:
> Not even at half that. Maybe it's a misplaced decimal punkt. . . . . .
>
> 73, Mike NF4L
>
>
>> On Sep 14, 2015, at 7:24 PM, mfsj <m...@totalhighspeed.com> wrote:
>>
>> OMG OM cheap at twice the price 8>)
>>
>> Fred/N0AZZ
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details [Updated photos]

[Wayne Burdick]

Here are two much better photos of the SP3:

   http://www.elecraft.com/K3/sp3_2a.jpg
   http://www.elecraft.com/K3/sp3_1a.jpg

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Harry Yingst via Elecraft]

This happens nearly every time Elecraft releases a new product.
To me it honestly appears to be a case of sour grapes.

As I view it God bless them and good for them that they can make a quality 
product and a living for them and their staff.
I believe that Elecrafts products are quite fair priced (especially considering 
the quality of service).
I try to buy US when possible even in my other hobbies and yes it tends to cost 
a little more to get a better product and service.






  From: Anthony Scandurra <anthony.scandu...@gmail.com>
 To: 
Cc: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> 
 Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 10:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
   
Have any of you who are complaining seen the prices of speakers from other
radio manufacturers?  How about the other third-party speaker makers?
Elecraft is in the ballpark.

A lot of folks asked (begged, bugged, pestered...) Elecraft to come out
with a speaker for the line.  They finally relented.  Thank you, Elecraft!

73, Tony K4QE
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Gary]

Amen, Tony.

My sentiments exactly.

Gary 

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Sent: ‎15/‎09/‎2015 12:43 PM
Cc: "Elecraft Reflector" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

Have any of you who are complaining seen the prices of speakers from other
radio manufacturers?  How about the other third-party speaker makers?
Elecraft is in the ballpark.

A lot of folks asked (begged, bugged, pestered...) Elecraft to come out
with a speaker for the line.  They finally relented.  Thank you, Elecraft!

73, Tony K4QE
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details [Updated photos]

[Fred Jensen]

OK, just curious here, how can a simple speaker with nice looking 
enclosure get this much traffic on the list?  I'm pretty sure it doesn't 
have any DSP firmware, I don't think it has any IMD figures, and I'm 
very sure it doesn't need any 8 MHz roofing filters.


I may buy one [SO1R here], just for the looks, my KPA500 may be headed 
for the auction block, I'll have a flag pole antenna, but I really don't 
want to electrocute the neighbor kids or the bunnies who eat my grass. 
Remote to W7RN will happen soon too.


73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
- www.cqp.org

On 9/14/2015 7:44 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:

Looks sharp, Looks like I need to make a little more room on the desk




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[Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Johnny Siu]

With my due respect to intellectual right, I would feel this price tag will 
trigger a Chinese variant at 1/3 price with similar appearance but unknown 
quality.
73
Johnny VR2XMC
  寄件人︰ Doug Person via Elecraft <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
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 主題︰ Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
   
I have to admit that I, too, find $179 for a passive speaker in a metal 
cabinet shockingly expensive.  I was expecting $99.  The price just gets 
a shrug and an "Oh well.." from me.  Not a chance I would spend that 
kind of money on a speaker just because it matches the K-Line.

Doug -- K0DXV

On 9/14/2015 5:42 PM, Mike Reublin NF4L wrote:
> Not even at half that. Maybe it's a misplaced decimal punkt. . . . . .
>
> 73, Mike NF4L
>
>
>> On Sep 14, 2015, at 7:24 PM, mfsj <m...@totalhighspeed.com> wrote:
>>
>> OMG OM cheap at twice the price 8>)
>>
>> Fred/N0AZZ
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[Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Gene Gabry]

Very good point Tony
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/speakers/1696.html

Puts things into perspective :) 

73 Gene N9TF

K3S 10057

>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

>Have any of you who are complaining seen the prices of speakers from other
radio manufacturers?  How about the other third-party speaker makers?
>Elecraft is in the ballpark.

>A lot of folks asked (begged, bugged, pestered...) Elecraft to come out
with a speaker for the line.  They finally relented.  Thank you, Elecraft!

>73, Tony K4QE
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[Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[kb2m]

Or for the same price as 2 SP3's

 http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/speakers/1301.html


73 Jeff kb2m



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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details [Updated photos]

[Vic Rosenthal]

Just put a piece of PVC pipe, painted appropriately, over the bottom 6 or 8 
feet of the flagpole.

Vic 4X6GP/K2VCO 

> On Sep 15, 2015, at 6:11 AM, Fred Jensen  wrote:
> 
> OK, just curious here, how can a simple speaker with nice looking enclosure 
> get this much traffic on the list?  I'm pretty sure it doesn't have any DSP 
> firmware, I don't think it has any IMD figures, and I'm very sure it doesn't 
> need any 8 MHz roofing filters.
> 
> I may buy one [SO1R here], just for the looks, my KPA500 may be headed for 
> the auction block, I'll have a flag pole antenna, but I really don't want to 
> electrocute the neighbor kids or the bunnies who eat my grass. Remote to W7RN 
> will happen soon too.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Fred K6DGW
> - Northern California Contest Club
> - CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
> - www.cqp.org
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Jim Lowman]

$179.95 is what I paid at the convention - times two.

73 de Jim - AD6CW

On 9/14/2015 1:06 PM, Brian & Cyndi wrote:

Did the boys at HamCon quote a price for the speaker?

73,
Brian, W6FVI



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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Mike Reublin NF4L]

I can't imagine what makes it cost that much. Too rich for my anemic blood.

73, Mike NF4L


> On Sep 14, 2015, at 4:24 PM, Cliff Frescura  wrote:
> 
> Didn't ask. But the web site lists the SP3 at $179

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Brian & Cyndi]

Did the boys at HamCon quote a price for the speaker?

73,
Brian, W6FVI


On 9/14/2015 11:51 AM, Cliff Frescura wrote:

I don't know where it is made, but I was able to see one in the flesh at
HamCon this past weekend and it has a solid feel and weight to it (in
addition to sounding great too).  Seems like a no brainer addition to me.

One wish would be to have the headphone jack on the speaker and use the
input switch (as an output switch) to switch between headphone and speaker,
so that the headphones can stay plugged in (I modified my SP-940 to work
this way)

73,

Cliff K3LL/6

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
ae...@carolinaheli.com
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 10:39 AM
To: a...@sbcglobal.net; ae...@carolinaheli.com; 'Bob McGraw - K4TAX'; 'Wayne
Burdick'; 'Elecraft Reflector'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

I guess I shouldn't have assumed anything but I did..


-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
a...@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 12:03 PM
To: ae...@carolinaheli.com; 'Bob McGraw - K4TAX'; 'Wayne Burdick'; 'Elecraft
Reflector'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

Jerry's (AE4PB) post and others suggest new speaker is actually made in the
USA.  Is that true??
Mike  AC5P


  On Monday, September 14, 2015 10:34 AM, "ae...@carolinaheli.com"
<ae...@carolinaheli.com> wrote:



  I believe when you consider the engineering reputation of Elecraft and
economies of scale for the manufacture of the SP3 several expectations
arise:
1. This is likely a very well-engineered component that's not easily
replaced by a similar sized speaker.
2. Performance of the speaker exceeds similarly priced speakers (and
definitely less expensive ones to a degree).
3. There is NOT likely a premium baked in to the price for the Elecraft name
due to the economies of scale (low quantity manufacture generally means
higher costs, thus higher price). Translation - the price isn't just for the
name.

At the end of the day consider the labor costs plus parts are likely fairly
high if they are US manufactured.

The US consumer is the sole reason most US manufacturing has gone overseas
(especially China). Buy cheap, get cheap.

So it comes down to a question of quality vs "good enough" vs "price"

I can only speak for myself in saying that it means something to have a
matching set rather than a hodgepodge.
I do compromise and use what I have to be able to get the job done UNTIL
I've saved enough for the next piece.

Personally the SP3 is last on my list because most if not all of my
operating will be with headphones.
The point here is that it's on my list :)



Jerry Moore
AE4PB, K3S SN# Arrives Wed.






-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob
McGraw - K4TAX
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 3:28 PM
To: Wayne Burdick; Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

New products are always welcome.  I look forward to "hearing them" at maybe
one of the next ham fests.  I like the fact the SP3 uses an oval speaker.
I've never figured out exactly why, but I find ovals typically do sound
better than rounds, but maybe it seems to be only in my findings.

As a comment, I prefer non-amplified speakers as this avoids the potential
RFI issues when used with the radio.  The model that I mentioned and use has
a slight tilt to the bottom which aligns the front with the K3S with its
front elevated by the stand.

I also find the audio system in the K3S to be really nice, specially the
2 channel effect using the AFX feature along with a stereo speaker
configuration.  This give a nice wide spatial effect to which I find very
pleasing.  Thanks Wayne and company for doing a fine job with the K3S and
its new features.

73
Bob, K4TAX
K3S s/n 10,163

On 9/13/2015 2:09 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

Hi all,

The K3 or K3S will work with a wide range of speakers, including the
ones

Bob (K4TAX) mentioned.

Here are some possible reasons for using an SP3:

- matches the K-Line perfectly, including a rugged fold-up tilt stand
- full stereo A/B source selection, supporting dual-rig and
dual-speaker configurations (or both)
- plenty of room inside the cabinet for built-ins that might improve
station integration

Of course these factors don't apply to everyone. But the good news is
that we will no longer have to say "maybe next year" every time
someone asks us to add a matching speaker to the product line :)

73,
Wayne
N6KR


Bob McGraw - K4TAX <rmcg...@blomand.net> wrote:


I use a pair of "off the shelf" brand speakers which have 2" x 4"
ovals

in a nice efficient solid enclosure that is 5" deep







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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Jim Lowman]

I'll leave that question to Eric, but in his presentation on Saturday he 
did go into detail about the *American* firms that Elecraft uses when 
outsourcing is necessary.


73 de Jim - AD6CW

On 9/14/2015 9:02 AM, a...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

Jerry's (AE4PB) post and others suggest new speaker is actually made in the 
USA.  Is that true??
Mike  AC5P





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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Don Wilhelm]

Jer,

The information I have is that it is indeed manufactured in California.
Components (jacks, switches, etc.) are sourced worldwide.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/14/2015 1:38 PM, ae...@carolinaheli.com wrote:

I guess I shouldn't have assumed anything but I did..


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From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of 
a...@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 12:03 PM
To: ae...@carolinaheli.com; 'Bob McGraw - K4TAX'; 'Wayne Burdick'; 'Elecraft 
Reflector'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

Jerry's (AE4PB) post and others suggest new speaker is actually made in the 
USA.  Is that true??
Mike  AC5P




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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Cliff Frescura]

I don't know where it is made, but I was able to see one in the flesh at
HamCon this past weekend and it has a solid feel and weight to it (in
addition to sounding great too).  Seems like a no brainer addition to me.

One wish would be to have the headphone jack on the speaker and use the
input switch (as an output switch) to switch between headphone and speaker,
so that the headphones can stay plugged in (I modified my SP-940 to work
this way)

73, 

Cliff K3LL/6

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
ae...@carolinaheli.com
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 10:39 AM
To: a...@sbcglobal.net; ae...@carolinaheli.com; 'Bob McGraw - K4TAX'; 'Wayne
Burdick'; 'Elecraft Reflector'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

I guess I shouldn't have assumed anything but I did..


-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
a...@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 12:03 PM
To: ae...@carolinaheli.com; 'Bob McGraw - K4TAX'; 'Wayne Burdick'; 'Elecraft
Reflector'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

Jerry's (AE4PB) post and others suggest new speaker is actually made in the
USA.  Is that true??
Mike  AC5P   


 On Monday, September 14, 2015 10:34 AM, "ae...@carolinaheli.com"
<ae...@carolinaheli.com> wrote:
   

 I believe when you consider the engineering reputation of Elecraft and
economies of scale for the manufacture of the SP3 several expectations
arise:
1. This is likely a very well-engineered component that's not easily
replaced by a similar sized speaker. 
2. Performance of the speaker exceeds similarly priced speakers (and
definitely less expensive ones to a degree). 
3. There is NOT likely a premium baked in to the price for the Elecraft name
due to the economies of scale (low quantity manufacture generally means
higher costs, thus higher price). Translation - the price isn't just for the
name.

At the end of the day consider the labor costs plus parts are likely fairly
high if they are US manufactured. 

The US consumer is the sole reason most US manufacturing has gone overseas
(especially China). Buy cheap, get cheap.

So it comes down to a question of quality vs "good enough" vs "price" 

I can only speak for myself in saying that it means something to have a
matching set rather than a hodgepodge. 
I do compromise and use what I have to be able to get the job done UNTIL
I've saved enough for the next piece. 

Personally the SP3 is last on my list because most if not all of my
operating will be with headphones. 
The point here is that it's on my list :)



Jerry Moore
AE4PB, K3S SN# Arrives Wed. 






-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob
McGraw - K4TAX
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 3:28 PM
To: Wayne Burdick; Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

New products are always welcome.  I look forward to "hearing them" at maybe
one of the next ham fests.  I like the fact the SP3 uses an oval speaker.
I've never figured out exactly why, but I find ovals typically do sound
better than rounds, but maybe it seems to be only in my findings.

As a comment, I prefer non-amplified speakers as this avoids the potential
RFI issues when used with the radio.  The model that I mentioned and use has
a slight tilt to the bottom which aligns the front with the K3S with its
front elevated by the stand.

I also find the audio system in the K3S to be really nice, specially the
2 channel effect using the AFX feature along with a stereo speaker
configuration.  This give a nice wide spatial effect to which I find very
pleasing.  Thanks Wayne and company for doing a fine job with the K3S and
its new features.

73
Bob, K4TAX
K3S s/n 10,163

On 9/13/2015 2:09 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> The K3 or K3S will work with a wide range of speakers, including the 
> ones
Bob (K4TAX) mentioned.
>
> Here are some possible reasons for using an SP3:
>
> - matches the K-Line perfectly, including a rugged fold-up tilt stand
> - full stereo A/B source selection, supporting dual-rig and 
> dual-speaker configurations (or both)
> - plenty of room inside the cabinet for built-ins that might improve 
> station integration
>
> Of course these factors don't apply to everyone. But the good news is 
> that we will no longer have to say "maybe next year" every time 
> someone asks us to add a matching speaker to the product line :)
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
> Bob McGraw - K4TAX <rmcg...@blomand.net> wrote:
>
>> I use a pair of "off the shelf" brand speakers which have 2" x 4" 
>> ovals
in a nice efficient solid enclosure that is 5" deep
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Kevin Stover]

You are right about that.
The only part of the Kenwood "520 Line" my Dad didn't get was the SP-520.
He thought $50 bucks for a speaker to match his $600 radio was excessive.
I have the set now and am looking for an SP-520 to finish it off. $70 
minimum for a 40 year old SP-520.

The thing appreciated in value.

On 9/12/2015 4:35 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Hams have historically paid big bucks for speakers that match their rigs.

73,
Don W3FPR



--
R. Kevin Stover
AC0H
ARRL
FISTS #11993
SKCC #215
NAQCC #3441

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[Bob McGraw - K4TAX]

New products are always welcome.  I look forward to "hearing them" at 
maybe one of the next ham fests.  I like the fact the SP3 uses an oval 
speaker.  I've never figured out exactly why, but I find ovals typically 
do sound better than rounds, but maybe it seems to be only in my findings.


As a comment, I prefer non-amplified speakers as this avoids the 
potential RFI issues when used with the radio.  The model that I 
mentioned and use has a slight tilt to the bottom which aligns the front 
with the K3S with its front elevated by the stand.


I also find the audio system in the K3S to be really nice, specially the 
2 channel effect using the AFX feature along with a stereo speaker 
configuration.  This give a nice wide spatial effect to which I find 
very pleasing.  Thanks Wayne and company for doing a fine job with the 
K3S and its new features.


73
Bob, K4TAX
K3S s/n 10,163

On 9/13/2015 2:09 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

Hi all,

The K3 or K3S will work with a wide range of speakers, including the ones Bob 
(K4TAX) mentioned.

Here are some possible reasons for using an SP3:

- matches the K-Line perfectly, including a rugged fold-up tilt stand
- full stereo A/B source selection, supporting dual-rig and dual-speaker 
configurations (or both)
- plenty of room inside the cabinet for built-ins that might improve station 
integration

Of course these factors don't apply to everyone. But the good news is that we will no 
longer have to say "maybe next year" every time someone asks us to add a 
matching speaker to the product line :)

73,
Wayne
N6KR


Bob McGraw - K4TAX  wrote:


I use a pair of "off the shelf" brand speakers which have 2" x 4" ovals in a nice 
efficient solid enclosure that is 5" deep









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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Gene Gabry]

>I also find the audio system in the K3S to be really nice, specially the
>2 channel effect using the AFX feature along with a stereo speaker
configuration.  This give a nice wide spatial effect to which I find very
pleasing.  >Thanks Wayne and company for doing a fine job with the K3S and
its new features.

>73 Bob, K4TAX

For me, the AFX option was a real "WOW" experience. Over the years I have
been finding I have to turn my head back and forth listening to CW from a
single communications speaker, in order to find the right frequency peak in
my (failing) ears. With stereo configured speakers and AFX on, no more head
turning, and the sound is crisp. What a joy on SSB as well, especially
listening ESSB.

73 Gene N9TF



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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[William Shanney]

I got to see the new Elecraft speakers at the SW Division Hamcon today and they 
look and sound great.

73, Bill, W6QR

--Message: 28
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 17:30:20 -0700
From: Wayne Burdick <n...@elecraft.com>
To: Elecraft Reflector <Elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
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Hi all,

The SP3 is our new external speaker. We'll have a product brochure and photos 
soon, but here's a brief list of features:

- styled to match the Elecraft K-Line

- same size as the Elecraft P3 Panadapter, with matching fold-up tilt stand

- works with any transceiver, but optimized for use with the K3 and K3S

- custom-built, high-quality 4-ohm oval speaker with outstanding passband 
characteristics

- A/B source selector switch

- two jacks for mono or stereo input sources, and one mono extension output, 
allowing
? convenient switching of the following configurations:

? - one transceiver, one speaker
? - two transceivers, one speaker, selected by A/B switch
? - one transceiver, two speakers (stereo)
? - two transceivers, two speakers, selected by A/B switch (stereo)

The SP3 will be sold assembled/tested only.

73,
Wayne
N6KR
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[Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Rose]

Phil echoes my situation .

I have a full K-Line and no more space in the line-up.

I'm one of those asking for one early on.  I'd -love- to
add the speaker, but since I have the 2nd receiver in
my K3 I need two of 'em. (;-)  I do have two KLM
bookcase speakers laying on their sides hidden away
under a raised shelf that holds the K-Line.

When someone gets one Rose will want to know the
measurements that will apply to a dust cover.  (The
feet enter into the equation.)

73!

Ken Kopp - K0PP
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Phil Hystad]

Wayne,

I already have a KX3 and I love it for portable QRP work.  The very idea of 
hiding it away in
an SP3 though is just wrong.  Of course, you would never do that — would you?


73, phil, K7PEH


> On Sep 12, 2015, at 11:09 AM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
> Phil,
> 
> If you ever decide to seriously downsize, you can mount a KX3 inside an SP3.
> 
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> 
> On Sep 12, 2015, at 11:05 AM, Phil Hystad  wrote:
> 
>> The idea of producing a matching speaker is inevitable given the history of 
>> matching speakers (Note: obviously the idea of “matching” has different 
>> interpretations by different vendors)….
>> 
>> ...But, unfortunately, I have no plans to buy one because I have no room for 
>> its matchability to be useful as
>> my current K-line sits in a nice line up: K3, P3, KPA500 and there is no 
>> more room for another
>> side-by-side box.  Making room and adding the extra box puts different parts 
>> of the K-line too far
>> apart (at least, for me and my operating comfort).
>> 
>> So, here I am with my favorite rig, the K3 and maybe the last vendor 
>> (Elecraft) that I will ever buy from as long
>> as they keep up their good work, and the first radio (K3) in my personal 
>> history without its own matching
>> speaker due merely  to the lack of space on my desk top.
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[edeveloper_1--- via Elecraft]

My shack is a bit cramped too. Currently I have a couple of really inadequate 
computer speakers sitting atop another rig near the K3/P3 combo. That rig sits 
atop the RF deck of an ALS-600, which itself sits on top of a KAT500 that's in 
turn sitting on top of a now-unused MFJ-998.
So that's quite a "tech stack" already.
Perhaps the advent of the SP3 will give me a reason to rearrange all that stuff 
so that I can have a good speaker (or two :)). Come to think of it, replacing 
the ALS-600 with a KPA500 would free up a bit of space as well and improve 
aesthetics at the same time. Wayne, you may have just engineered another 
Elecraft tipping point.
73, Tyler, KC2LST

 


 On Saturday, September 12, 2015 2:23 PM, Phil Hystad  
wrote:
   

 Wayne,

I already have a KX3 and I love it for portable QRP work.  The very idea of 
hiding it away in
an SP3 though is just wrong.  Of course, you would never do that — would you?


73, phil, K7PEH


> On Sep 12, 2015, at 11:09 AM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
> Phil,
> 
> If you ever decide to seriously downsize, you can mount a KX3 inside an SP3.
> 
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> 
> On Sep 12, 2015, at 11:05 AM, Phil Hystad  wrote:
> 
>> The idea of producing a matching speaker is inevitable given the history of 
>> matching speakers (Note: obviously the idea of “matching” has different 
>> interpretations by different vendors)….
>> 
>> ...But, unfortunately, I have no plans to buy one because I have no room for 
>> its matchability to be useful as
>> my current K-line sits in a nice line up: K3, P3, KPA500 and there is no 
>> more room for another
>> side-by-side box.  Making room and adding the extra box puts different parts 
>> of the K-line too far
>> apart (at least, for me and my operating comfort).
>> 
>> So, here I am with my favorite rig, the K3 and maybe the last vendor 
>> (Elecraft) that I will ever buy from as long
>> as they keep up their good work, and the first radio (K3) in my personal 
>> history without its own matching
>> speaker due merely  to the lack of space on my desk top.
> 
> 
> 
> 


  
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[Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Don Putnick via Elecraft]

"- custom-built, high-quality 4-ohm oval speaker with outstanding passband 
characteristics"I have the honor of knowing the speaker designer and his 
reputation in the audio community. He put a lot of talent, love and care into 
that design. I'm putting it on my Christmas list!73 Don NA6Z
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[F5vjc]

You guys must be drunk on KoolAid,

180$ for an, OK Wow... 'Matching' SP3 Speaker,  and most will need two,
 not one
Yikes !

Shipped to Europe, I don't think so!





73,  Deni - F5VJC



On 12 September 2015 at 22:54, Wayne Burdick  wrote:

> > The joy of living in a resource rich country with nowhere to sell it :-(
>
> Bet you could solar-power the entire country, Gary. I'm picturing one
> colossal array aimed at a boiler on top of Ayers Rock :)
>
> Wayne
> N6KR
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Wayne Burdick]

Tyler (KC2LST) wrote:

> ...from the photos on Twitter it looks like a very nice unit. As I recall 
> there have been a number of discussions on this reflector debating the merits 
> of various third-party external speakers and quite a few called on Elecraft 
> to produce one of its own, to match the K-Line. Congratulations to Elecraft 
> for once again listening to its customers and responding. I look forward to 
> hearing the new SP3 in action!

We certainly have had many requests for a matching, front-firing speaker. Sorry 
it took so long!

73,
Wayne
N6KR




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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Phil Hystad]

The idea of producing a matching speaker is inevitable given the history of 
matching speakers (Note: obviously the idea of “matching” has different 
interpretations by different vendors).  But,

1.  When I was nine years old, when my interest in radio started, my dad 
brought home
 the radios from his ship (because they were being replaced during a 
remodel).  This
 was the year 1956.  The radio receiver was EH Scott, model SLR: 12-B 
designed to
 fit in a rack cabinet.  It had a huge (boat anchor quality) matching 
speaker.

2.  My Hammarlund HQ-170AC, circa 1965, had a matching speaker (color and 
general
 design features).



3.  My Icom 756 (non-pro) had a matching Icom speaker (and, matching power 
supply).

4.  My Icom 756 Pro III had the newer version of the matching Icom speaker 
(SP-23).

5.  And, now, Elecraft has a matching speaker to go along with the K3/K3S.


But, unfortunately, I have no plans to buy one because I have no room for its 
matchability to be useful as
my current K-line sits in a nice line up: K3, P3, KPA500 and there is no more 
room for another
side-by-side box.  Making room and adding the extra box puts different parts of 
the K-line too far
apart (at least, for me and my operating comfort).

So, here I am with my favorite rig, the K3 and maybe the last vendor (Elecraft) 
that I will ever buy from as long
as they keep up their good work, and the first radio (K3) in my personal 
history without its own matching
speaker due merely  to the lack of space on my desk top.

73, phil, K7PEH

P.S.  I currently use West Mountain Radio Comspkr (stereo units) but most of 
the time headphones (cm-500).


> On Sep 12, 2015, at 9:26 AM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
> Tyler (KC2LST) wrote:
> 
>> ...from the photos on Twitter it looks like a very nice unit. As I recall 
>> there have been a number of discussions on this reflector debating the 
>> merits of various third-party external speakers and quite a few called on 
>> Elecraft to produce one of its own, to match the K-Line. Congratulations to 
>> Elecraft for once again listening to its customers and responding. I look 
>> forward to hearing the new SP3 in action!
> 
> We certainly have had many requests for a matching, front-firing speaker. 
> Sorry it took so long!
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Bob McGraw - K4TAX]

I use a pair of "off the shelf" brand speakers which have 2" x 4" ovals 
in a nice efficient solid enclosure that is 5" deep.  They stand the 
same height as the K3S and are matte  black.  With the 2 channel 
features  and audio of the radio they sure sound nice. New, $49.95 for 
the pair.


73
Bob, K4TAX
K3S s/n 10,163

On 9/12/2015 7:02 PM, Don Putnick via Elecraft wrote:

"- custom-built, high-quality 4-ohm oval speaker with outstanding passband 
characteristics"I have the honor of knowing the speaker designer and his reputation 
in the audio community. He put a lot of talent, love and care into that design. I'm 
putting it on my Christmas list!73 Don NA6Z
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Wayne Burdick]

Phil,

If you ever decide to seriously downsize, you can mount a KX3 inside an SP3.

Wayne
N6KR


On Sep 12, 2015, at 11:05 AM, Phil Hystad  wrote:

> The idea of producing a matching speaker is inevitable given the history of 
> matching speakers (Note: obviously the idea of “matching” has different 
> interpretations by different vendors)….
> 
> ...But, unfortunately, I have no plans to buy one because I have no room for 
> its matchability to be useful as
> my current K-line sits in a nice line up: K3, P3, KPA500 and there is no more 
> room for another
> side-by-side box.  Making room and adding the extra box puts different parts 
> of the K-line too far
> apart (at least, for me and my operating comfort).
> 
> So, here I am with my favorite rig, the K3 and maybe the last vendor 
> (Elecraft) that I will ever buy from as long
> as they keep up their good work, and the first radio (K3) in my personal 
> history without its own matching
> speaker due merely  to the lack of space on my desk top.




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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Wayne Burdick]

Gary  wrote:

> Your offering free postage and upsize with fries with the SP3?

No, just a built-in stereo A/B source switch :)

OTOH, the fries are on me if you ever visit California.

Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Gary]

Ok, I give up, you got me. Will check airline tickets soon :)

Aaaah, what a deal
Grin

Gary 

-Original Message-
From: "Wayne Burdick" 
Sent: ‎13/‎09/‎2015 7:41 AM
To: "Gary" 
Cc: "edevelope...@yahoo.com" ; "Phil Hystad" 
; "Elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
Subject: Re: Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

Gary  wrote:

> Your offering free postage and upsize with fries with the SP3?

No, just a built-in stereo A/B source switch :)

OTOH, the fries are on me if you ever visit California.

Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Gary]

Yikes...the SP3 price converted to Australian Dollars comes out to $253.00 plus 
freight.

The joy of living in a resource rich country with nowhere to sell it :-(

Time to start saving the pennies

Gary 

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Sent: ‎13/‎09/‎2015 4:39 AM
To: "Phil Hystad" <phys...@mac.com>; "Wayne Burdick" <n...@elecraft.com>
Cc: "Elecraft@mailman.qth.net" <Elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

My shack is a bit cramped too. Currently I have a couple of really inadequate 
computer speakers sitting atop another rig near the K3/P3 combo. That rig sits 
atop the RF deck of an ALS-600, which itself sits on top of a KAT500 that's in 
turn sitting on top of a now-unused MFJ-998.
So that's quite a "tech stack" already.
Perhaps the advent of the SP3 will give me a reason to rearrange all that stuff 
so that I can have a good speaker (or two :)). Come to think of it, replacing 
the ALS-600 with a KPA500 would free up a bit of space as well and improve 
aesthetics at the same time. Wayne, you may have just engineered another 
Elecraft tipping point.
73, Tyler, KC2LST

 


 On Saturday, September 12, 2015 2:23 PM, Phil Hystad <phys...@mac.com> 
wrote:
   

 Wayne,

I already have a KX3 and I love it for portable QRP work.  The very idea of 
hiding it away in
an SP3 though is just wrong.  Of course, you would never do that — would you?


73, phil, K7PEH


> On Sep 12, 2015, at 11:09 AM, Wayne Burdick <n...@elecraft.com> wrote:
> 
> Phil,
> 
> If you ever decide to seriously downsize, you can mount a KX3 inside an SP3.
> 
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> 
> On Sep 12, 2015, at 11:05 AM, Phil Hystad <phys...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
>> The idea of producing a matching speaker is inevitable given the history of 
>> matching speakers (Note: obviously the idea of “matching” has different 
>> interpretations by different vendors)….
>> 
>> ...But, unfortunately, I have no plans to buy one because I have no room for 
>> its matchability to be useful as
>> my current K-line sits in a nice line up: K3, P3, KPA500 and there is no 
>> more room for another
>> side-by-side box.  Making room and adding the extra box puts different parts 
>> of the K-line too far
>> apart (at least, for me and my operating comfort).
>> 
>> So, here I am with my favorite rig, the K3 and maybe the last vendor 
>> (Elecraft) that I will ever buy from as long
>> as they keep up their good work, and the first radio (K3) in my personal 
>> history without its own matching
>> speaker due merely  to the lack of space on my desk top.
> 
> 
> 
> 


  
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Wayne Burdick]

> The joy of living in a resource rich country with nowhere to sell it :-(

Bet you could solar-power the entire country, Gary. I'm picturing one colossal 
array aimed at a boiler on top of Ayers Rock :)

Wayne
N6KR


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[Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker Details

[Dauer, Edward]

Yes, I know I could RT_M; but I am working today while following the SP3 
news, and wondered if anyone knows this offhand:

K3 has sub-RX.  When in more intense operations (DX, contest), when using 
Split I have the two receivers each in one side of a headset (no speakers 
- I don’t even own one).  For casual rag chewing, stereo not necessary for 
me and sometimes having a speaker might be better than using a headset.  
So, the question:  Could there be an assigned programmable function which 
with a single push would switch from stereo headset to mono speaker, thus 
requiring only one SP3 for these applications?  If the answer is yes, I’ll 
be in line for an SP3.

Tnx,

Ted, KN1CBR


>Message: 1
>Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 12:22:12 -0600
>From: Rose <elecraftcov...@gmail.com>
>To: Phil Hystad <phys...@mac.com>, Elecraft Reflector
>   <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
>Subject: [Elecraft]  Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
>Message-ID:
>   <cak+fsrvjy5eqxxcmgye3c-jytr7pps0laoxqd-7tjor_onu...@mail.gmail.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
>Phil echoes my situation .
>
>I have a full K-Line and no more space in the line-up.
>
>I'm one of those asking for one early on.  I'd -love- to
>add the speaker, but since I have the 2nd receiver in
>my K3 I need two of 'em. (;-)  I do have two KLM
>bookcase speakers laying on their sides hidden away
>under a raised shelf that holds the K-Line.
>
>When someone gets one Rose will want to know the
>measurements that will apply to a dust cover.  (The
>feet enter into the equation.)
>
>73!
>
>Ken Kopp - K0PP
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Don Wilhelm]

Hams have historically paid big bucks for speakers that match their rigs.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/12/2015 5:11 PM, F5vjc wrote:

You guys must be drunk on KoolAid,

180$ for an, OK Wow... 'Matching' SP3 Speaker,  and most will need two,
  not one
Yikes !

Shipped to Europe, I don't think so!



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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Gary]

Wayne

Hand as soon as figure out how to tap into the battery bank I will do 
my damnedness to deplete it with my K-Linegrin

Your offering free postage and upsize with fries with the SP3?

Ducking for cover now :-)

Gary 

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

> The joy of living in a resource rich country with nowhere to sell it :-(

Bet you could solar-power the entire country, Gary. I'm picturing one colossal 
array aimed at a boiler on top of Ayers Rock :)

Wayne
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Marc Veeneman]

Wayne, you know we need 2 of these things to handle pileups with split.  

One for the battery (no heat) and one for the PS ($13 fan from Amazon).

I hope there's a "Buy one, get second for XX%" deal coming to the price list.

And for the KX3?  Same 2-speaker need, but in a smaller form factor.  Again, I 
hope we see a BOGO price structure -- as soon as the SPX3 is ready to ship.

:-)
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> On Sep 12, 2015, at 8:44 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
> Marc,
> 
> The SP3 is so solid you could park a truck on it. It might even be EMP-proof, 
> but we don't have adequate test equipment to determine this.
> 
> So...good place to stick a battery or power supply. But if there's any risk 
> of it getting too hot inside, add some ventilation holes and possibly a fan.
> 
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> 
>> On Sep 12, 2015, at 5:40 PM, Marc Veeneman  wrote:
>> 
>> You might consider it.  I'd love to hide my LiFePO4 pack and the PowerWerx 
>> power supply inside  one.  My PowerWerx V/A display just died anyway, no 
>> reason to have it visible anymore.
>> -- 
>> Marc  W8SDG
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 12, 2015, at 8:33 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
>>> 
>>> We don't have any current plan to offer the enclosure by itself. 
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Wayne
>>> N6KR
>>> 
 On Sep 12, 2015, at 5:28 PM, "Richard W. Solomon"  
 wrote:
 
 Would it be possible to buy just the enclosure ?
 It is said the P3 and the SP3 are the same size.
 
 73, Dick, W1KSZ
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Richard W. Solomon]

Would it be possible to buy just the enclosure ?
It is said the P3 and the SP3 are the same size.

73, Dick, W1KSZ

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McGraw - K4TAX
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2015 5:15 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

I use a pair of "off the shelf" brand speakers which have 2" x 4" ovals in a
nice efficient solid enclosure that is 5" deep.  They stand the same height
as the K3S and are matte  black.  With the 2 channel features  and audio of
the radio they sure sound nice. New, $49.95 for the pair.

73
Bob, K4TAX
K3S s/n 10,163

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> "- custom-built, high-quality 4-ohm oval speaker with outstanding 
> passband characteristics"I have the honor of knowing the speaker 
> designer and his reputation in the audio community. He put a lot of 
> talent, love and care into that design. I'm putting it on my Christmas 
> list!73 Don NA6Z 
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Gary]

Me too.
I suppose I could just get another kat500 for Ant. 2, but I don't have 6 
antennas.

Anyone done this?

Gary 

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Sent: ‎13/‎09/‎2015 12:28 PM
To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

I'd love to have an (unpunched) KAT500 enclosure. I have some misc stuff that 
could mount in one and it would get the K3 to the same height as the 
KAT500/KPA500 combo.

Maybe a new product line?

On 9/12/2015 5:33 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> We don't have any current plan to offer the enclosure by itself.
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Wayne Burdick]

We don't have any current plan to offer the enclosure by itself. 

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Sep 12, 2015, at 5:28 PM, "Richard W. Solomon" <w1...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Would it be possible to buy just the enclosure ?
> It is said the P3 and the SP3 are the same size.
> 
> 73, Dick, W1KSZ
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob
> McGraw - K4TAX
> Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2015 5:15 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
> 
> I use a pair of "off the shelf" brand speakers which have 2" x 4" ovals in a
> nice efficient solid enclosure that is 5" deep.  They stand the same height
> as the K3S and are matte  black.  With the 2 channel features  and audio of
> the radio they sure sound nice. New, $49.95 for the pair.
> 
> 73
> Bob, K4TAX
> K3S s/n 10,163
> 
> On 9/12/2015 7:02 PM, Don Putnick via Elecraft wrote:
>> "- custom-built, high-quality 4-ohm oval speaker with outstanding 
>> passband characteristics"I have the honor of knowing the speaker 
>> designer and his reputation in the audio community. He put a lot of 
>> talent, love and care into that design. I'm putting it on my Christmas 
>> list!73 Don NA6Z 
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Marc Veeneman]

You might consider it.  I'd love to hide my LiFePO4 pack and the PowerWerx 
power supply inside  one.  My PowerWerx V/A display just died anyway, no reason 
to have it visible anymore.
-- 
Marc  W8SDG


> On Sep 12, 2015, at 8:33 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
> We don't have any current plan to offer the enclosure by itself. 
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
>> On Sep 12, 2015, at 5:28 PM, "Richard W. Solomon"  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Would it be possible to buy just the enclosure ?
>> It is said the P3 and the SP3 are the same size.
>> 
>> 73, Dick, W1KSZ
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Bob McGraw - K4TAX]

Wouldn't putting something inside the enclosure change the acoustic 
properties?   I'd seem to think so.



73
Bob, K4TAX
K3S s/n 10,163

On 9/12/2015 7:44 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

Marc,

The SP3 is so solid you could park a truck on it. It might even be EMP-proof, 
but we don't have adequate test equipment to determine this.

So...good place to stick a battery or power supply. But if there's any risk of 
it getting too hot inside, add some ventilation holes and possibly a fan.

Wayne
N6KR


On Sep 12, 2015, at 5:40 PM, Marc Veeneman  wrote:


You might consider it.  I'd love to hide my LiFePO4 pack and the PowerWerx 
power supply inside  one.  My PowerWerx V/A display just died anyway, no reason 
to have it visible anymore.
--
Marc  W8SDG



On Sep 12, 2015, at 8:33 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:

We don't have any current plan to offer the enclosure by itself.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Sep 12, 2015, at 5:28 PM, "Richard W. Solomon"  wrote:

Would it be possible to buy just the enclosure ?
It is said the P3 and the SP3 are the same size.

73, Dick, W1KSZ

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Wes (N7WS)]

I'd love to have an (unpunched) KAT500 enclosure. I have some misc stuff that 
could mount in one and it would get the K3 to the same height as the 
KAT500/KPA500 combo.


Maybe a new product line?

On 9/12/2015 5:33 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

We don't have any current plan to offer the enclosure by itself.




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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Wayne Burdick]

Marc,

The SP3 is so solid you could park a truck on it. It might even be EMP-proof, 
but we don't have adequate test equipment to determine this.

So...good place to stick a battery or power supply. But if there's any risk of 
it getting too hot inside, add some ventilation holes and possibly a fan.

Wayne
N6KR


On Sep 12, 2015, at 5:40 PM, Marc Veeneman  wrote:

> You might consider it.  I'd love to hide my LiFePO4 pack and the PowerWerx 
> power supply inside  one.  My PowerWerx V/A display just died anyway, no 
> reason to have it visible anymore.
> -- 
> Marc  W8SDG
> 
> 
>> On Sep 12, 2015, at 8:33 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
>> 
>> We don't have any current plan to offer the enclosure by itself. 
>> 
>> 73,
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>> 
>>> On Sep 12, 2015, at 5:28 PM, "Richard W. Solomon"  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Would it be possible to buy just the enclosure ?
>>> It is said the P3 and the SP3 are the same size.
>>> 
>>> 73, Dick, W1KSZ

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Wes (N7WS)]

I've thought of making my own.  I can't bend sheet steel or even aluminum in 
such narrow cross section but some 1 1/2" aluminum channel should work for the 
front and back panels. Everything else is flat stock.


The sharp edges on the channel could be dressed by filing.  I'd probably try it 
on a router table with a carbide round over bit for better precision.  I haven't 
done this before but I've successfully cut aluminum plate on a table saw.  I 
would assemble the plates using bar stock and screws like I did 30 years ago 
when I was building amplifiers. For example: 
http://sadxa.org/n7ws/Left%20Interior%20View.jpg   Sort of like Elecraft's "2D" 
fasteners.



On 9/12/2015 7:46 PM, Gary wrote:

Me too.
I suppose I could just get another kat500 for Ant. 2, but I don't have 6 
antennas.

Anyone done this?

Gary

-Original Message-
From: "Wes (N7WS)" <w...@triconet.org>
Sent: ‎13/‎09/‎2015 12:28 PM
To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

I'd love to have an (unpunched) KAT500 enclosure. I have some misc stuff that
could mount in one and it would get the K3 to the same height as the
KAT500/KPA500 combo.

Maybe a new product line?

On 9/12/2015 5:33 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

We don't have any current plan to offer the enclosure by itself.



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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[edeveloper_1--- via Elecraft]

Hi Wayne,
Thanks for the update - from the photos on Twitter it looks like a very nice 
unit. As I recall there have been a number of discussions on this reflector 
debating the merits of various third-party external speakers and quite a few 
called on Elecraft to produce one of its own, to match the K-Line.
Congratulations to Elecraft for once again listening to its customers and 
responding. I look forward to hearing the new SP3 in action!
73, Tyler, KC2LST
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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 17:30:20 -0700
From: Wayne Burdick <n...@elecraft.com>
To: Elecraft Reflector <Elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
Message-ID: <c5fe8585-413d-4650-bd08-cbd6e4b66...@elecraft.com>
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Hi all,

The SP3 is our new external speaker. We'll have a product brochure and photos 
soon, but here's a brief list of features:

- styled to match the Elecraft K-Line

- same size as the Elecraft P3 Panadapter, with matching fold-up tilt stand

- works with any transceiver, but optimized for use with the K3 and K3S

- custom-built, high-quality 4-ohm oval speaker with outstanding passband 
characteristics

- A/B source selector switch

- two jacks for mono or stereo input sources, and one mono extension output, 
allowing
  convenient switching of the following configurations:

  - one transceiver, one speaker
  - two transceivers, one speaker, selected by A/B switch
  - one transceiver, two speakers (stereo)
  - two transceivers, two speakers, selected by A/B switch (stereo)

The SP3 will be sold assembled/tested only.

73,
Wayne
N6KR
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Sverre Holm (LA3ZA)]

Pictures of SP3 can be found on Elecraft's Twitter account:
https://twitter.com/elecraft/status/642473404080091136



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[Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Wayne Burdick]

Hi all,

The SP3 is our new external speaker. We'll have a product brochure and photos 
soon, but here's a brief list of features:

- styled to match the Elecraft K-Line

- same size as the Elecraft P3 Panadapter, with matching fold-up tilt stand

- works with any transceiver, but optimized for use with the K3 and K3S

- custom-built, high-quality 4-ohm oval speaker with outstanding passband 
characteristics

- A/B source selector switch

- two jacks for mono or stereo input sources, and one mono extension output, 
allowing
  convenient switching of the following configurations:

  - one transceiver, one speaker
  - two transceivers, one speaker, selected by A/B switch
  - one transceiver, two speakers (stereo)
  - two transceivers, two speakers, selected by A/B switch (stereo)

The SP3 will be sold assembled/tested only.

73,
Wayne
N6KR



  



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