Re: [Elecraft] Filtering RFI from LED & flouresence Dimmer Switches

2016-01-26 Thread John Pitz
For what it's worth, when LEDs first became affordable I thought the perfect place to try one out was in the garage door opener. With all the vibration and the constant cycling on and off every time the beam was broken an LED bulb seemed like a perfect fit. We ran into an issue immediately.

Re: [Elecraft] Filtering RFI from LED & flouresence Dimmer Switches

2016-01-26 Thread Craig Smith
Thanks for the garage door opener experience. I had my door and opener replaced a few months ago. The manual for the opener (Lift Master) specifically says not to use LED bulbs. I was scratching my head over that but did use CFLs in the opener. I asked the installer why that

Re: [Elecraft] Filtering RFI from LED & flouresence Dimmer Switches

2016-01-26 Thread Clay Autery
Wonder if it's "OK" to use "quality" LED bulbs and get away with it? I've got the full Lift Master setup... I'll check the two types of LEDs I have (one CREE based, the other not) and see if it impacts the remote opener's ability to function. 73, __ Clay Autery On

Re: [Elecraft] Filtering RFI from LED & flouresence Dimmer Switches

2016-01-26 Thread Bill Frantz
FWIW, we have an old Lift Master 1/2 Horsepower garage door opener. It's manual said not to use CFLs (it is too old to know about LEDs). I tried CFLs anyway. They lasted less than 2 weeks before they died. 73 Bill AE6JV ---

Re: [Elecraft] Filtering RFI from LED & flouresence Dimmer Switches

2016-01-26 Thread Craig Smith
Thanks, Bill.I have the newer DC motor with Battery Backup Liftmaster, but Iā€™m guessing the receivers might be similar. Interestingly, in the new manual they actually recommend CFLs but warn against LED. Obviously the front end of their receiver is not designed to Elecraft standards

Re: [Elecraft] Filtering RFI from LED & flouresence Dimmer Switches

2016-01-26 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
If you choose to use incandescent lamps in the garage door opener, choose the "heavy duty vibration resistant" bulbs. These can also be found labeled as "ceiling fan" bulbs. Seems that they have 3 or 4 wires supporting the filament as opposed to only two wires for the standard bulb. 73

Re: [Elecraft] Filtering RFI from LED & flouresence Dimmer Switches

2016-01-26 Thread Kenneth Christiansen
Hi to the group I have a 40 year old Sears chain drive door opener with two Cree led bulbs. They have been there for over 2 years with no problem using the remote. Every bulb in my house except the oven and refrigerator has been replaced by Cree led bulbs. I have run my K3 and P3 on each

Re: [Elecraft] Filtering RFI from LED & flouresence Dimmer Switches

2016-01-26 Thread Phil Kane
On 1/26/2016 12:59 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote: > If you choose to use incandescent lamps in the garage door opener, > choose the "heavy duty vibration resistant" bulbs. These can also be > found labeled as "ceiling fan" bulbs. Seems that they have 3 or 4 wires > supporting the filament as

Re: [Elecraft] Filtering RFI from LED & flouresence Dimmer Switches

2016-01-25 Thread David Cole
Hi, I have a series of three articles on RFI, located at: http://nk7z.net/category/info/mitigation-of-rf-interference/i-have-rfi-series/ the second article down, titled "I have RFI, now what: House Cleaning" has the some of the correct part numbers for the Fair-Rite corporation snap on ferrites.

Re: [Elecraft] Filtering RFI from LED & flouresence Dimmer Switches

2016-01-25 Thread Bob
In a past job, I designed low and medium power phase cut dimmers. Ferrite clamps/beads will be almost useless. Well designed filters will have rather large series inductors (1 to 10 mH) and high voltage caps designed to filter the high harmonic content caused by the Triac switching. Cheap ones

Re: [Elecraft] Filtering RFI from LED & flouresence Dimmer Switches

2016-01-25 Thread Jim Brown
On Mon,1/25/2016 9:16 AM, Bob wrote: Drop some serious bucks on a Lutron model and try it. Lutron dimmers are not "serious bucks" unless you want special features. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] Filtering RFI from LED & flouresence Dimmer Switches

2016-01-25 Thread Kevin Stover
My simple (=cheaper) solution is to get rid of the dimmers all together. How much is a good old fashioned light switch at the big three, $1.50, two buck if you want a matching switch plate. When we bought our house I replaced six dimmers. Didn't hear a peep from "she who must be obeyed". I have

Re: [Elecraft] Filtering RFI from LED & flouresence Dimmer Switches

2016-01-25 Thread Stephen Shearer
Be careful. Not all LED's are the same. Early on I purchased a cheap two-pack at HomeDepot. Later I was using brand name. I started to have some noise problems - the cheap no-names were causing problems. I am almost all LED's now. I started because my YL could hear the CFL power supply

Re: [Elecraft] Filtering RFI from LED & flouresence Dimmer Switches

2016-01-25 Thread David Ahrendts
Thanks to all who have posted on this thread. Very informative. I have an entire house full of Lutron dimmers ā€” all servicing halogens ā€” circa 2001 design (pre-LED). And being a green guy with solar panels on the roof and plug-in hybrid, I was considering LEDs for the whole house. Will step

Re: [Elecraft] Filtering RFI from LED & flouresence Dimmer Switches

2016-01-25 Thread Josh Fiden
I have a number of Lutron Maestro dimmers including a couple ELV types. IIRC the standard models are around $30 and ELV something like $100/ea. I have not noticed RFI with any of them, including operating 6m EME. 73, Josh W6XU On 1/25/2016 3:03 PM, Jim Brown wrote: Lutron dimmers are not

Re: [Elecraft] Filtering RFI from LED & flouresence Dimmer Switches

2016-01-25 Thread Charlie T, K3ICH
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 7:23 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Filtering RFI from LED & flouresence Dimmer Switches I have a number of Lutron Maestro dimmers including a couple ELV types. IIRC the standard models are around $30 and ELV something like $100/ea. I

Re: [Elecraft] Filtering RFI from LED & flouresence Dimmer Switches

2016-01-25 Thread Jim Brown
On Mon,1/25/2016 5:57 PM, David Ahrendts wrote: Curious, does anyone have an example of LED noise recorded? LEDs do NOT make noise. What makes noise is the switch-mode power supply, and/or the dimmers used to make them run. 73, Jim K9YC

Re: [Elecraft] Filtering RFI from LED & flouresence Dimmer Switches

2016-01-24 Thread Jim Brown
On Sun,1/24/2016 6:56 PM, johnpierce wrote: Some were snap on beads. I am assuming that locating them in the power feed lines to the dimmer box would help in reducing the RFI. What do you recommend? Replace the noisy dimmers with quiet ones. Lutron makes dimmers that are RF quiet. Available

[Elecraft] Filtering RFI from LED & flouresence Dimmer Switches

2016-01-24 Thread johnpierce
I have several dimmers around my house that generate 20db of noise on the HF bands. I have seen some recommendations for ferrite beads that can be used for filtering. However, I cannot find that info. Some were snap on beads. I am assuming that locating them in the power feed lines to the