Re: [Elecraft] Fire in the house li-ion

to all, Rich, n0ce From: Bill Tippett<mailto:btipp...@alum.mit.edu> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 1:31 PM To: Terry Schieler<mailto:w...@swbell.net> Cc: Elecraft Reflector<mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fire in the house li-ion Ditto Terry's

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A good friend, colleague, philosopher, and programmer once told meas we were leaving yet another interminable "Lessons Learned" meeting for yet another troubled project: "The problem with Lessons Learned is that theyrarely are." I brought up my experience because it happened on discharge and

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Claire'; 'Bill W4ZV'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fire in the house li-ion No, I have not seen any fire, smoking or dangerous issues, Ron. But I always use the recommended chargers and charging formats. I always charge them in the fire bag and never indoors or unattended. Like

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th.net<mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fire in the house li-ion Lithium ion batteries which are in a completely controlled charging and discharging environment, like in a phone or laptop, are generally safe. Well, except for the Samsung Galaxy Note S7. The best guess I’ve

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Ron D'Eau Claire [mailto:r...@cobi.biz] > Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 12:42 PM > To: 'Terry Schieler'; 'Bill W4ZV'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Fire in the house li-ion > > Have you ever had a battery failure and fire in one of them? > > The ones I've

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Message- From: Ron D'Eau Claire [mailto:r...@cobi.biz] Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 12:42 PM To: 'Terry Schieler'; 'Bill W4ZV'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Fire in the house li-ion Have you ever had a battery failure and fire in one of them? The ones I've seen on line

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Schieler Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 9:30 AM To: 'Bill W4ZV'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fire in the house li-ion I have been using charging bags similar to these for over 6 years to charge LiPO batteries for my fleet of RC airplanes. Very prevalent and highly recommended

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Message- From: Bill W4ZV [mailto:btipp...@alum.mit.edu] Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 4:08 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fire in the house li-ion N0CE wrote: /"I’d like to know more about the bag someone mentioned"/ 744 hits for "fireproof charging bag lip

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Lithium ion batteries which are in a completely controlled charging and discharging environment, like in a phone or laptop, are generally safe. Well, except for the Samsung Galaxy Note S7. The best guess I’ve heard about that problem is that the various functions were so complicated and

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As Kevin, K4VD wrote: “Maybe I missed this in the thread but can someone cite an authoritative and maybe trustworthy source for Lithium battery safety? So many old spouse tales seem to have grown up around this technology.” And my answer is: Yes, I agree. The only things I have picked up on,

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Grant Youngman-2 wrote > Maybe … there are a lot of YouTube videos that show this type of bag being > totally destroyed by the contained batteries, flames shooting out in > spectacular fashion, etc. > > One guy in a video went so far as to build a “containment vessel” of > concrete blocks and

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in the same category. 73, Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred Jensen Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 11:05 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fire in the house li-ion I was using a tiny Li-Poly

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Maybe … there are a lot of YouTube videos that show this type of bag being totally destroyed by the contained batteries, flames shooting out in spectacular fashion, etc. One guy in a video went so far as to build a “containment vessel” of concrete blocks and cement board for a lid. IMHO, if

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N0CE wrote: /"I’d like to know more about the bag someone mentioned"/ 744 hits for "fireproof charging bag lipo":

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I was using a tiny Li-Poly pack about the size of a small matchbox that I got from the local RC model store with my KX1 when it began to smoke. Fortunately,I had it on a pigtail, was out on the deck in a Spartan Sprint, and could unplug it and fling it over the railing to the gravel driveway.

Re: [Elecraft] Fire in the house li-ion

> > From: William Lagerberg<mailto:pe1...@zendamateur.nu> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 4:30 PM > > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net<mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > > Subject: [Elecraft] Fire in the house li-ion > > > > Guys, > > > > I want

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I crashed an r/c helicopter in one of the gyms at the school district where I work. The battery pack did burst in to flames as Jessie KB7PSG can attest. It was kind of scary. __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

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raft@mailman.qth.net<mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > Subject: [Elecraft] Fire in the house li-ion > > Guys, > > I want to give you a advice, my shack it (was) in the basement (cellar??) > I do all my thing for the hobby there. > A collega of mine as

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ay 17, 2017 4:30 PM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net<mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > Subject: [Elecraft] Fire in the house li-ion > > Guys, > > I want to give you a advice, my shack it (was) in the basement (cellar??) I > do all my thing for the hobby there.

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th.net<mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: [Elecraft] Fire in the house li-ion Guys, I want to give you a advice, my shack it (was) in the basement (cellar??) I do all my thing for the hobby there. A collega of mine asked me to take a look at two Go-Pro LI-Ion accu's because they where

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t;> >> Wow. >> >> GL >> >> Chris >> N6WM >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne >> Burdick >> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:59 PM >> To: Will

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ginal Message- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne > Burdick > Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:59 PM > To: William Lagerberg <pe1...@zendamateur.nu> > Cc: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fire

Re: [Elecraft] Fire in the house li-ion [not due to an Elecraft product]

The above thread is going deep enough that I wanted to make sure this point was not missed. (The fire was caused by a Go-Pro battery pack.) Still, it’s a cautionary tale. Everyone using batteries of any kind should be very aware of proper handling and charging guidelines. Sorry for the extra

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Thoughts and prayers are with you and your family William 73 Al W1NGA Colorado Springs, CO > On May 17, 2017, at 6:28 PM, Matthew Cook wrote: > > William, > > We're sorry to hear about your fire, especially loosing all of your > Elecraft gear. > > If you are washing your

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William, We're sorry to hear about your fire, especially loosing all of your Elecraft gear. If you are washing your equipment with water it's important that you go to the shop and purchase *distilled *water like you should use for your solder sponge or car battery. Distilled water will mobilise

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.@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of > Wayne Burdick > Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:59 PM > To: William Lagerberg <pe1...@zendamateur.nu> > Cc: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fire in the house li-ion > > So sorry to hear about this,

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- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:59 PM To: William Lagerberg <pe1...@zendamateur.nu> Cc: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fire in the house li-ion So sorry t

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So sorry to hear about this, William! Best of luck recovering from this tragedy. I hope you’re able to salvage some of your ham gear. If you’re stuck without a rig, let me know. We might have a refurbished KX2 or KX3 we could loan you. Perhaps this would be good time to remind everyone to be

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: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of William Lagerberg Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 2:30 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Fire in the house li-ion Guys, I want to give you a advice, my shack it (was) in the basement (cellar??) I do all my thing

Re: [Elecraft] Fire in the house li-ion

" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:32 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Fire in the house li-ion Guys, I want to give you a advice, my shack it (was) in the basement (cellar??) I do all my thing for the hobby there. A collega of mine asked me to take a look at two Go-Pro

[Elecraft] Fire in the house li-ion

Guys, I want to give you a advice, my shack it (was) in the basement (cellar??) I do all my thing for the hobby there. A collega of mine asked me to take a look at two Go-Pro LI-Ion accu's because they where not loading anymore. So I put the first one on the loader for 8 till 9 hours and