Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft] Fred's HHG vs Elecraft manuals de KE7X

2018-04-08 Thread Kevin Cozens 

On 2018-04-08 05:37 PM, Fred C. Jensen wrote:

Actually, it is five times seven equals 42, and 42 is the answer, not the 
question. Everyone has forgotten the question.

K6DGW

Kevin Cozens  wrote:

On 2018-04-08 01:29 PM, kevinr wrote:

The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Hexagonal Phase

[snip]

In addition to the other items mentions, there is also the question "What is
six times nine?".


I didn't forget the question. It is in what I wrote in the messsage to which 
you replied.


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft] Fred's HHG vs Elecraft manuals de KE7X

2018-04-08 Thread kevinr 
Vroomfondel & Majikthise (union reps) were persuaded by Deep Thought 
that they could clean up on the pundit circuit while he, worked on the 
answer to the QUESTION: the question of life, the universe, and 
everything.  Whose answer we all know as 42.


Deep Thought later mentioned the question may have been a little too broad.

   Kevin.  KD5ONS


On 04/08/2018 02:37 PM, Fred C. Jensen wrote:

Actually, it is five times seven equals 42, and 42 is the answer, not the 
question. Everyone has forgotten the question.

K6DGW

Kevin Cozens  wrote:

On 2018-04-08 01:29 PM, kevinr wrote:

The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Hexagonal Phase

I'll have to look that up. I haven't heard of the version of HHGTTG.

In addition to the other items mentions, there is also the question "What is
six times nine?".

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft] Fred's HHG vs Elecraft manuals de KE7X

2018-04-08 Thread Fred C. Jensen 
Actually, it is five times seven equals 42, and 42 is the answer, not the 
question. Everyone has forgotten the question.

K6DGW

Kevin Cozens  wrote:
>On 2018-04-08 01:29 PM, kevinr wrote:
>> The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Hexagonal Phase
>I'll have to look that up. I haven't heard of the version of HHGTTG.
>
>In addition to the other items mentions, there is also the question "What is 
>six times nine?".
>
>-- 
>Cheers!
>
>Kevin.
>
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>https://www.patreon.html/KevinCozens | distract the mouth-breathers, and
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft] Fred's HHG vs Elecraft manuals de KE7X

2018-04-08 Thread Fred C. Jensen 
Not too shabby for a trilogy.

K6DGW

kevinr <kev...@coho.net> wrote:
>The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Hexagonal Phase is currently being 
>broadcast directly from the BBC.  Only one episode left to find out what 
>happens to Arthur Dent, Ford Prefect, Trillian, and her daughter 
>Random.  As for Zaphod?  Well, he's just this guy, you know.
>
>https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03v379k/episodes/guide
>
>The first radio show came out in the late 70s.  Now, xx years later, we 
>are on part 6.
>
>    73,
>
>    Kevin.  KD5ONS
>
>
>On 04/08/2018 07:09 AM, Cady, Fred wrote:
>> Rats, wish I had thought of that!  Maybe the next book . . .
>>
>>
>> 
>> From: kevino z <z_kev...@hotmail.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018 7:36 AM
>> To: Joan
>> Cc: Cady, Fred; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fred's HHG vs Elecraft manuals de KE7X
>>
>> Yeah, but my copy didn’t have DON’T PANIC written in large, friendly 
>> letters
>> 73 DE KK4YEL
>>
>> No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However, a large number 
>> of electrons were terribly inconvenienced !
>>
>>> On Apr 8, 2018, at 02:27, Joan <joanpat...@me.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Fred, I’ve just appended my copy of your book to read: The Hitchhikers’ 
>>> Guide to the Elecraft KX2.
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>> ^_^ Joan
>>>
>>> FB es 73 =  KE7X de KX2CW  kn   . .
>>>
>>> Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra, said Piglet.
>>> Shaka, when the walls fell, said Pooh.
>>>
>>>> On Apr 7, 2018, at 12:05, Cady, Fred <fc...@montana.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What makes the KE7X Elecraft book different than the Elecraft owner’s 
>>>> manuals?
>>>> Let’s start by saying the KE7X books do not have any information needed to 
>>>> operate the radios that is not in the Elecraft Owner’s manuals.  Owner’s 
>>>> manuals are by design succinct and concise descriptions of the controls 
>>>> and features of the radio.  Elecraft manuals are very well done but I 
>>>> found during my 40+ years as an EE prof that there are various ways that 
>>>> people learn.  Some are visual learners and learn by seeing diagrams and 
>>>> images, some can gain comprehension just be reading.  Others are more 
>>>> hands-on learners, needing the “lab experience” to cement their 
>>>> understanding of the concepts.  I’m a visual and hands-on learner.  When I 
>>>> first got my K3 I had trouble understanding how the sub receiver worked 
>>>> and what the different antenna switching options were.  So I drew it out 
>>>> in a diagram and that made it much more clear to me.  If that helped me, 
>>>> wouldn’t it help others?  So the idea of a K3 book was born.  (The 
>>>> original title was to be “The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the K3” but I got 
>>>> talked out of that!)
>>>> The concept that takes these books beyond the Elecraft manuals is support 
>>>> for the visual, reading, and doing learning styles.There are many, 
>>>> many diagrams.   In the K3S book there are 131 diagrams, 16 on the sub 
>>>> receiver alone.  There are expanded explanations (and diagrams) for all 
>>>> radio operations and in-depth explanations of topics such as the various 
>>>> controls for the receiver’s AGC.  And to top it all off, most topics have 
>>>> a “lab exercise” that you can do sitting at your radio to make sure you 
>>>> understand the concept.
>>>> The printed versions of the books all have an index and, of course, the 
>>>> pdf versions can be easily searched for what you are looking for.
>>>> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.ke7x.com=02%7C01%7C%7C9f89f0d9820449cbbfc208d59d19deae%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636587656789761289=Vm0EbZlIY7l%2BlaYsff7q5hyZ%2BQ1UTYUiOAiME5fDIqk%3D=0<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ke7x.com=02%7C01%7C%7C9f89f0d9820449cbbfc208d59d19deae%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636587656789761289=ZyBT4gyj%2FeHpFIVe6jzaHkbvmMz6QiLfpJq8%2FC8CXiQ%3D=0>
>>>>  has more information on all 12 current KE7X Elecraft books with tables of 
>>>> contents and ordering information.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>>
>>>> Fred
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net <elecraft-boun

Re: [Elecraft] Fred's HHG vs Elecraft manuals de KE7X

2018-04-08 Thread Kevin Cozens 

On 2018-04-08 01:29 PM, kevinr wrote:

The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Hexagonal Phase

I'll have to look that up. I haven't heard of the version of HHGTTG.

In addition to the other items mentions, there is also the question "What is 
six times nine?".


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https://www.patreon.html/KevinCozens | distract the mouth-breathers, and
 | that's why we're powerful"
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Re: [Elecraft] Fred's HHG vs Elecraft manuals de KE7X

2018-04-08 Thread G4GNX 


42

73,

Alan. G4GNX

-Original Message- 
From: Mike Flowers 
Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018 6:33 PM 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fred's HHG vs Elecraft manuals de KE7X 


And don't forget your towel ...

- 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, Past President - NCDXC 


-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net <elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net>
On Behalf Of kevinr
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 10:30 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fred's HHG vs Elecraft manuals de KE7X

The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Hexagonal Phase is currently being
broadcast directly from the BBC.  Only one episode left to find out what

happens

to Arthur Dent, Ford Prefect, Trillian, and her daughter Random.  As for
Zaphod?  Well, he's just this guy, you know.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03v379k/episodes/guide

The first radio show came out in the late 70s.  Now, xx years later, we

are on

part 6.

73,

Kevin.  KD5ONS


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Re: [Elecraft] Fred's HHG vs Elecraft manuals de KE7X

2018-04-08 Thread Mike Flowers 
And don't forget your towel ...

- 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, Past President - NCDXC 

> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net <elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net>
> On Behalf Of kevinr
> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 10:30 AM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fred's HHG vs Elecraft manuals de KE7X
> 
> The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Hexagonal Phase is currently being
> broadcast directly from the BBC.  Only one episode left to find out what
happens
> to Arthur Dent, Ford Prefect, Trillian, and her daughter Random.  As for
> Zaphod?  Well, he's just this guy, you know.
> 
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03v379k/episodes/guide
> 
> The first radio show came out in the late 70s.  Now, xx years later, we
are on
> part 6.
> 
>     73,
> 
>     Kevin.  KD5ONS
> 
> 
> On 04/08/2018 07:09 AM, Cady, Fred wrote:
> > Rats, wish I had thought of that!  Maybe the next book . . .
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: kevino z <z_kev...@hotmail.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018 7:36 AM
> > To: Joan
> > Cc: Cady, Fred; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fred's HHG vs Elecraft manuals de KE7X
> >
> > Yeah, but my copy didn’t have DON’T PANIC written in large, friendly
letters
> > 73 DE KK4YEL
> >
> > No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However, a large
number
> of electrons were terribly inconvenienced !
> >
> >> On Apr 8, 2018, at 02:27, Joan <joanpat...@me.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Fred, I’ve just appended my copy of your book to read: The Hitchhikers’
Guide
> to the Elecraft KX2.
> >>
> >> Thank you!
> >> ^_^ Joan
> >>
> >> FB es 73 =  KE7X de KX2CW  kn   . .
> >>
> >> Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra, said Piglet.
> >> Shaka, when the walls fell, said Pooh.
> >>
> >>> On Apr 7, 2018, at 12:05, Cady, Fred <fc...@montana.edu> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> What makes the KE7X Elecraft book different than the Elecraft owner’s
> manuals?
> >>> Let’s start by saying the KE7X books do not have any information
needed to
> operate the radios that is not in the Elecraft Owner’s manuals.  Owner’s
manuals
> are by design succinct and concise descriptions of the controls and
features of
> the radio.  Elecraft manuals are very well done but I found during my 40+
years
> as an EE prof that there are various ways that people learn.  Some are
visual
> learners and learn by seeing diagrams and images, some can gain
comprehension
> just be reading.  Others are more hands-on learners, needing the “lab
> experience” to cement their understanding of the concepts.  I’m a visual
and
> hands-on learner.  When I first got my K3 I had trouble understanding how
the
> sub receiver worked and what the different antenna switching options were.
So I
> drew it out in a diagram and that made it much more clear to me.  If that
helped
> me, wouldn’t it help others?  So the idea of a K3 book was born.  (The
original
> title was to be “The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the K3” but I got talked out of
that!)
> >>> The concept that takes these books beyond the Elecraft manuals is
support
> for the visual, reading, and doing learning styles.There are many,
many
> diagrams.   In the K3S book there are 131 diagrams, 16 on the sub receiver
alone.
> There are expanded explanations (and diagrams) for all radio operations
and in-
> depth explanations of topics such as the various controls for the
receiver’s AGC.
> And to top it all off, most topics have a “lab exercise” that you can do
sitting at
> your radio to make sure you understand the concept.
> >>> The printed versions of the books all have an index and, of course,
the pdf
> versions can be easily searched for what you are looking for.
> >>>
> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.ke7x.com=02
> %7C01%7C%7C9f89f0d9820449cbbfc208d59d19deae%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435
> %7C1%7C0%7C636587656789761289=Vm0EbZlIY7l%2BlaY
> sff7q5hyZ%2BQ1UTYUiOAiME5fDIqk%3D=0<https://nam03.safelinks.p
> rotection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ke7x.com=02%7C01%7
> C%7C9f89f0d9820449cbbfc208d59d19deae%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435
> %7C1%7C0%7C636587656789761289=ZyBT4gyj%2FeHpFIVe6jzaHkb
> vmMz6QiLfpJq8%2FC8CXiQ%3D=0> has more information on all 12
> current KE7X Elecraft books with tables of contents and ordering
information.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 73,
> >>>
> >>> Fred
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>> From: elecraf

Re: [Elecraft] Fred's HHG vs Elecraft manuals de KE7X

2018-04-08 Thread kevinr 
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Hexagonal Phase is currently being 
broadcast directly from the BBC.  Only one episode left to find out what 
happens to Arthur Dent, Ford Prefect, Trillian, and her daughter 
Random.  As for Zaphod?  Well, he's just this guy, you know.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03v379k/episodes/guide

The first radio show came out in the late 70s.  Now, xx years later, we 
are on part 6.


   73,

   Kevin.  KD5ONS


On 04/08/2018 07:09 AM, Cady, Fred wrote:

Rats, wish I had thought of that!  Maybe the next book . . .



From: kevino z <z_kev...@hotmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018 7:36 AM
To: Joan
Cc: Cady, Fred; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fred's HHG vs Elecraft manuals de KE7X

Yeah, but my copy didn’t have DON’T PANIC written in large, friendly letters
73 DE KK4YEL

No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However, a large number of 
electrons were terribly inconvenienced !


On Apr 8, 2018, at 02:27, Joan <joanpat...@me.com> wrote:

Fred, I’ve just appended my copy of your book to read: The Hitchhikers’ Guide 
to the Elecraft KX2.

Thank you!
^_^ Joan

FB es 73 =  KE7X de KX2CW  kn   . .

Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra, said Piglet.
Shaka, when the walls fell, said Pooh.


On Apr 7, 2018, at 12:05, Cady, Fred <fc...@montana.edu> wrote:

What makes the KE7X Elecraft book different than the Elecraft owner’s manuals?
Let’s start by saying the KE7X books do not have any information needed to 
operate the radios that is not in the Elecraft Owner’s manuals.  Owner’s 
manuals are by design succinct and concise descriptions of the controls and 
features of the radio.  Elecraft manuals are very well done but I found during 
my 40+ years as an EE prof that there are various ways that people learn.  Some 
are visual learners and learn by seeing diagrams and images, some can gain 
comprehension just be reading.  Others are more hands-on learners, needing the 
“lab experience” to cement their understanding of the concepts.  I’m a visual 
and hands-on learner.  When I first got my K3 I had trouble understanding how 
the sub receiver worked and what the different antenna switching options were.  
So I drew it out in a diagram and that made it much more clear to me.  If that 
helped me, wouldn’t it help others?  So the idea of a K3 book was born.  (The 
original title was to be “The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the K3” but I got talked 
out of that!)
The concept that takes these books beyond the Elecraft manuals is support for 
the visual, reading, and doing learning styles.There are many, many 
diagrams.   In the K3S book there are 131 diagrams, 16 on the sub receiver 
alone.  There are expanded explanations (and diagrams) for all radio operations 
and in-depth explanations of topics such as the various controls for the 
receiver’s AGC.  And to top it all off, most topics have a “lab exercise” that 
you can do sitting at your radio to make sure you understand the concept.
The printed versions of the books all have an index and, of course, the pdf 
versions can be easily searched for what you are looking for.
https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.ke7x.com=02%7C01%7C%7C9f89f0d9820449cbbfc208d59d19deae%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636587656789761289=Vm0EbZlIY7l%2BlaYsff7q5hyZ%2BQ1UTYUiOAiME5fDIqk%3D=0<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ke7x.com=02%7C01%7C%7C9f89f0d9820449cbbfc208d59d19deae%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636587656789761289=ZyBT4gyj%2FeHpFIVe6jzaHkbvmMz6QiLfpJq8%2FC8CXiQ%3D=0>
 has more information on all 12 current KE7X Elecraft books with tables of contents and ordering information.


73,

Fred


From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net <elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> on behalf 
of Mike Markowski <mike.ab...@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 7, 2018 12:04 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fred's vs Elecraft manuals

Fred and all,

Can you describe in general how your books differ from Elecraft manuals?
I haven't found Elecaft manuals to be lacking and very much like how
direct and concise they are.  Your books are popular, making me wonder
what you've added?

Tnx es 73!
Mike ab3ap


On 04/07/2018 11:39 AM, Cady, Fred wrote:
Hi Neil

No never did a K2 book.

Sorry the 15% discount at Lulu doesn't apply to pdf files.

The K3S, KX3, and KX2 hard copy books are only available through Elecraft.  
Sorry about that too.

Fred KE7X

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Re: [Elecraft] Fred's HHG vs Elecraft manuals de KE7X

2018-04-08 Thread Cady, Fred 
Rats, wish I had thought of that!  Maybe the next book . . .



From: kevino z <z_kev...@hotmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018 7:36 AM
To: Joan
Cc: Cady, Fred; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fred's HHG vs Elecraft manuals de KE7X

Yeah, but my copy didn’t have DON’T PANIC written in large, friendly letters
73 DE KK4YEL

No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However, a large number of 
electrons were terribly inconvenienced !

> On Apr 8, 2018, at 02:27, Joan <joanpat...@me.com> wrote:
>
> Fred, I’ve just appended my copy of your book to read: The Hitchhikers’ Guide 
> to the Elecraft KX2.
>
> Thank you!
> ^_^ Joan
>
> FB es 73 =  KE7X de KX2CW  kn   . .
>
> Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra, said Piglet.
> Shaka, when the walls fell, said Pooh.
>
>> On Apr 7, 2018, at 12:05, Cady, Fred <fc...@montana.edu> wrote:
>>
>> What makes the KE7X Elecraft book different than the Elecraft owner’s 
>> manuals?
>> Let’s start by saying the KE7X books do not have any information needed to 
>> operate the radios that is not in the Elecraft Owner’s manuals.  Owner’s 
>> manuals are by design succinct and concise descriptions of the controls and 
>> features of the radio.  Elecraft manuals are very well done but I found 
>> during my 40+ years as an EE prof that there are various ways that people 
>> learn.  Some are visual learners and learn by seeing diagrams and images, 
>> some can gain comprehension just be reading.  Others are more hands-on 
>> learners, needing the “lab experience” to cement their understanding of the 
>> concepts.  I’m a visual and hands-on learner.  When I first got my K3 I had 
>> trouble understanding how the sub receiver worked and what the different 
>> antenna switching options were.  So I drew it out in a diagram and that made 
>> it much more clear to me.  If that helped me, wouldn’t it help others?  So 
>> the idea of a K3 book was born.  (The original title was to be “The 
>> Hitchhiker’s Guide to the K3” but I got talked out of that!)
>> The concept that takes these books beyond the Elecraft manuals is support 
>> for the visual, reading, and doing learning styles.There are many, many 
>> diagrams.   In the K3S book there are 131 diagrams, 16 on the sub receiver 
>> alone.  There are expanded explanations (and diagrams) for all radio 
>> operations and in-depth explanations of topics such as the various controls 
>> for the receiver’s AGC.  And to top it all off, most topics have a “lab 
>> exercise” that you can do sitting at your radio to make sure you understand 
>> the concept.
>> The printed versions of the books all have an index and, of course, the pdf 
>> versions can be easily searched for what you are looking for.
>> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.ke7x.com=02%7C01%7C%7C9f89f0d9820449cbbfc208d59d19deae%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636587656789761289=Vm0EbZlIY7l%2BlaYsff7q5hyZ%2BQ1UTYUiOAiME5fDIqk%3D=0<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ke7x.com=02%7C01%7C%7C9f89f0d9820449cbbfc208d59d19deae%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636587656789761289=ZyBT4gyj%2FeHpFIVe6jzaHkbvmMz6QiLfpJq8%2FC8CXiQ%3D=0>
>>  has more information on all 12 current KE7X Elecraft books with tables of 
>> contents and ordering information.
>>
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Fred
>>
>> 
>> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net <elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> on 
>> behalf of Mike Markowski <mike.ab...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, April 7, 2018 12:04 PM
>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fred's vs Elecraft manuals
>>
>> Fred and all,
>>
>> Can you describe in general how your books differ from Elecraft manuals?
>> I haven't found Elecaft manuals to be lacking and very much like how
>> direct and concise they are.  Your books are popular, making me wonder
>> what you've added?
>>
>> Tnx es 73!
>> Mike ab3ap
>>
>>> On 04/07/2018 11:39 AM, Cady, Fred wrote:
>>> Hi Neil
>>>
>>> No never did a K2 book.
>>>
>>> Sorry the 15% discount at Lulu doesn't apply to pdf files.
>>>
>>> The K3S, KX3, and KX2 hard copy books are only available through Elecraft.  
>>> Sorry about that too.
>>>
>>> Fred KE7X
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Re: [Elecraft] Fred's HHG vs Elecraft manuals de KE7X

2018-04-08 Thread kevino z 
Yeah, but my copy didn’t have DON’T PANIC written in large, friendly letters
73 DE KK4YEL

No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However, a large number of 
electrons were terribly inconvenienced !

> On Apr 8, 2018, at 02:27, Joan  wrote:
> 
> Fred, I’ve just appended my copy of your book to read: The Hitchhikers’ Guide 
> to the Elecraft KX2.
> 
> Thank you!
> ^_^ Joan
> 
> FB es 73 =  KE7X de KX2CW  kn   . . 
> 
> Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra, said Piglet.
> Shaka, when the walls fell, said Pooh.
> 
>> On Apr 7, 2018, at 12:05, Cady, Fred  wrote:
>> 
>> What makes the KE7X Elecraft book different than the Elecraft owner’s 
>> manuals?
>> Let’s start by saying the KE7X books do not have any information needed to 
>> operate the radios that is not in the Elecraft Owner’s manuals.  Owner’s 
>> manuals are by design succinct and concise descriptions of the controls and 
>> features of the radio.  Elecraft manuals are very well done but I found 
>> during my 40+ years as an EE prof that there are various ways that people 
>> learn.  Some are visual learners and learn by seeing diagrams and images, 
>> some can gain comprehension just be reading.  Others are more hands-on 
>> learners, needing the “lab experience” to cement their understanding of the 
>> concepts.  I’m a visual and hands-on learner.  When I first got my K3 I had 
>> trouble understanding how the sub receiver worked and what the different 
>> antenna switching options were.  So I drew it out in a diagram and that made 
>> it much more clear to me.  If that helped me, wouldn’t it help others?  So 
>> the idea of a K3 book was born.  (The original title was to be “The 
>> Hitchhiker’s Guide to the K3” but I got talked out of that!)
>> The concept that takes these books beyond the Elecraft manuals is support 
>> for the visual, reading, and doing learning styles.There are many, many 
>> diagrams.   In the K3S book there are 131 diagrams, 16 on the sub receiver 
>> alone.  There are expanded explanations (and diagrams) for all radio 
>> operations and in-depth explanations of topics such as the various controls 
>> for the receiver’s AGC.  And to top it all off, most topics have a “lab 
>> exercise” that you can do sitting at your radio to make sure you understand 
>> the concept.
>> The printed versions of the books all have an index and, of course, the pdf 
>> versions can be easily searched for what you are looking for.
>> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.ke7x.com=02%7C01%7C%7C9f89f0d9820449cbbfc208d59d19deae%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636587656789761289=Vm0EbZlIY7l%2BlaYsff7q5hyZ%2BQ1UTYUiOAiME5fDIqk%3D=0
>>  has more information on all 12 current KE7X Elecraft books with tables of 
>> contents and ordering information.
>> 
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Fred
>> 
>> 
>> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  on 
>> behalf of Mike Markowski 
>> Sent: Saturday, April 7, 2018 12:04 PM
>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fred's vs Elecraft manuals
>> 
>> Fred and all,
>> 
>> Can you describe in general how your books differ from Elecraft manuals?
>> I haven't found Elecaft manuals to be lacking and very much like how
>> direct and concise they are.  Your books are popular, making me wonder
>> what you've added?
>> 
>> Tnx es 73!
>> Mike ab3ap
>> 
>>> On 04/07/2018 11:39 AM, Cady, Fred wrote:
>>> Hi Neil
>>> 
>>> No never did a K2 book.
>>> 
>>> Sorry the 15% discount at Lulu doesn't apply to pdf files.
>>> 
>>> The K3S, KX3, and KX2 hard copy books are only available through Elecraft.  
>>> Sorry about that too.
>>> 
>>> Fred KE7X
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Re: [Elecraft] Fred's HHG vs Elecraft manuals de KE7X

2018-04-08 Thread Cady, Fred 
Yea, another Douglas Adams fan.



From: Joan <joanpat...@me.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018 12:26 AM
To: Cady, Fred
Cc: Mike Markowski; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fred's HHG vs Elecraft manuals de KE7X

Fred, I’ve just appended my copy of your book to read: The Hitchhikers’ Guide 
to the Elecraft KX2.

Thank you!
^_^ Joan

FB es 73 =  KE7X de KX2CW  kn   . .

Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra, said Piglet.
Shaka, when the walls fell, said Pooh.

On Apr 7, 2018, at 12:05, Cady, Fred 
<fc...@montana.edu<mailto:fc...@montana.edu>> wrote:

What makes the KE7X Elecraft book different than the Elecraft owner’s manuals?
Let’s start by saying the KE7X books do not have any information needed to 
operate the radios that is not in the Elecraft Owner’s manuals.  Owner’s 
manuals are by design succinct and concise descriptions of the controls and 
features of the radio.  Elecraft manuals are very well done but I found during 
my 40+ years as an EE prof that there are various ways that people learn.  Some 
are visual learners and learn by seeing diagrams and images, some can gain 
comprehension just be reading.  Others are more hands-on learners, needing the 
“lab experience” to cement their understanding of the concepts.  I’m a visual 
and hands-on learner.  When I first got my K3 I had trouble understanding how 
the sub receiver worked and what the different antenna switching options were.  
So I drew it out in a diagram and that made it much more clear to me.  If that 
helped me, wouldn’t it help others?  So the idea of a K3 book was born.  (The 
original title was to be “The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the K3” but I got talked 
out of that!)
The concept that takes these books beyond the Elecraft manuals is support for 
the visual, reading, and doing learning styles.There are many, many 
diagrams.   In the K3S book there are 131 diagrams, 16 on the sub receiver 
alone.  There are expanded explanations (and diagrams) for all radio operations 
and in-depth explanations of topics such as the various controls for the 
receiver’s AGC.  And to top it all off, most topics have a “lab exercise” that 
you can do sitting at your radio to make sure you understand the concept.
The printed versions of the books all have an index and, of course, the pdf 
versions can be easily searched for what you are looking for.
www.ke7x.com<http://www.ke7x.com><http://www.ke7x.com> has more information on 
all 12 current KE7X Elecraft books with tables of contents and ordering 
information.


73,

Fred


From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net<mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> 
<elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net<mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net>> on 
behalf of Mike Markowski <mike.ab...@gmail.com<mailto:mike.ab...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Saturday, April 7, 2018 12:04 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net<mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fred's vs Elecraft manuals

Fred and all,

Can you describe in general how your books differ from Elecraft manuals?
 I haven't found Elecaft manuals to be lacking and very much like how
direct and concise they are.  Your books are popular, making me wonder
what you've added?

Tnx es 73!
Mike ab3ap

On 04/07/2018 11:39 AM, Cady, Fred wrote:
Hi Neil

No never did a K2 book.

Sorry the 15% discount at Lulu doesn't apply to pdf files.

The K3S, KX3, and KX2 hard copy books are only available through Elecraft.  
Sorry about that too.

Fred KE7X
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Re: [Elecraft] Fred's HHG vs Elecraft manuals de KE7X

2018-04-08 Thread Joan 
Fred, I’ve just appended my copy of your book to read: The Hitchhikers’ Guide 
to the Elecraft KX2.

Thank you!
^_^ Joan

FB es 73 =  KE7X de KX2CW  kn   . . 

Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra, said Piglet.
Shaka, when the walls fell, said Pooh.

> On Apr 7, 2018, at 12:05, Cady, Fred  wrote:
> 
> What makes the KE7X Elecraft book different than the Elecraft owner’s manuals?
> Let’s start by saying the KE7X books do not have any information needed to 
> operate the radios that is not in the Elecraft Owner’s manuals.  Owner’s 
> manuals are by design succinct and concise descriptions of the controls and 
> features of the radio.  Elecraft manuals are very well done but I found 
> during my 40+ years as an EE prof that there are various ways that people 
> learn.  Some are visual learners and learn by seeing diagrams and images, 
> some can gain comprehension just be reading.  Others are more hands-on 
> learners, needing the “lab experience” to cement their understanding of the 
> concepts.  I’m a visual and hands-on learner.  When I first got my K3 I had 
> trouble understanding how the sub receiver worked and what the different 
> antenna switching options were.  So I drew it out in a diagram and that made 
> it much more clear to me.  If that helped me, wouldn’t it help others?  So 
> the idea of a K3 book was born.  (The original title was to be “The 
> Hitchhiker’s Guide to the K3” but I got talked out of that!)
> The concept that takes these books beyond the Elecraft manuals is support for 
> the visual, reading, and doing learning styles.There are many, many 
> diagrams.   In the K3S book there are 131 diagrams, 16 on the sub receiver 
> alone.  There are expanded explanations (and diagrams) for all radio 
> operations and in-depth explanations of topics such as the various controls 
> for the receiver’s AGC.  And to top it all off, most topics have a “lab 
> exercise” that you can do sitting at your radio to make sure you understand 
> the concept.
> The printed versions of the books all have an index and, of course, the pdf 
> versions can be easily searched for what you are looking for.
> www.ke7x.com has more information on all 12 current KE7X 
> Elecraft books with tables of contents and ordering information.
> 
> 
> 73,
> 
> Fred
> 
> 
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  on 
> behalf of Mike Markowski 
> Sent: Saturday, April 7, 2018 12:04 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fred's vs Elecraft manuals
> 
> Fred and all,
> 
> Can you describe in general how your books differ from Elecraft manuals?
>  I haven't found Elecaft manuals to be lacking and very much like how
> direct and concise they are.  Your books are popular, making me wonder
> what you've added?
> 
> Tnx es 73!
> Mike ab3ap
> 
>> On 04/07/2018 11:39 AM, Cady, Fred wrote:
>> Hi Neil
>> 
>> No never did a K2 book.
>> 
>> Sorry the 15% discount at Lulu doesn't apply to pdf files.
>> 
>> The K3S, KX3, and KX2 hard copy books are only available through Elecraft.  
>> Sorry about that too.
>> 
>> Fred KE7X
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