Re: [Elecraft] K3EXREF question

2016-03-08 Thread Chuck - AE4CW
Elecraft recently posted a modification to the K3REF to correct a problem caused by the K3EXREF. Though specific to frequency changes noticeable on on 2M and 6M, I suspect it may directly relate to this discussion. http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/K3EXREF%20freq%20shift%20fix.pdf --- Chuck, AE4CW

Re: [Elecraft] K3EXREF question

2016-03-08 Thread Lyle Johnson
Almost. The TCXO has no control input and is not tuned; it is only measured. The measurement information is passed to the radio's MCU which then uses the data to determine the correct value to command the synthesizer(s), drive the REF CAL display, and so forth. 73, Lyle KK7P The K3EXREF

[Elecraft] K3EXREF question

2016-03-08 Thread ANDY NEHAN
Thanks guys for the detailed and thorough replies - I understand it now!! Andy G4HUE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:

Re: [Elecraft] K3EXREF question

2016-03-07 Thread Edward R Cole
The K3EXREF circuit is essentially a AFC (sort of) where a highly accurate 10-MHz reference is used to measure the frequency of the TCXO and send a frequency correction "word" to control the TCXO so that the error from 49.380 MHz is removed. As I understand it this comparison is done about

Re: [Elecraft] K3EXREF question

2016-03-07 Thread Kevin Stover
I believe that is the way it is. 53/1000 of a hertz over an hour? I'd give that up all day everyday for the spectacular lack of phase noise in the K3s or K3 with the new synth. It's not a cesium clock. On 3/7/2016 8:02 AM, David Anderson wrote: I -think- the way it works is that when the

Re: [Elecraft] K3EXREF question

2016-03-07 Thread David Anderson
I -think- the way it works is that when the K3EXREF is locked with the external frequency standard on 10 MHz, this is used to measure the frequency of the TCXO. The value of that frequency measurement is then put into the K3 REFCAL setting. If the TCXO drifts slightly as they all will, then the

Re: [Elecraft] K3EXREF question

2016-03-07 Thread David Pratt
Andy - Without the K3EXREF connected, the REF CAL frequency will be fixed and the K3 will drift, albeit very slightly, particularly when it is first switched on. With K3EXREF locked with your 10MHz standard the REF CAL frequency will vary to correct any drift in the K3. If you measure the output

Re: [Elecraft] K3EXREF question

2016-03-07 Thread Roger
Hi Andy, I have the same (hardware) constellation and get similar results. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3EXREF-question-tp7614973p7614974.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

[Elecraft] K3EXREF question

2016-03-07 Thread ANDY NEHAN
Sometime ago I installed the K3EXREF which I feed from an external 10MHz double oven Xtal oscillator. I am confident the K3EXREF is installed and configured correctly as when in use and the external oscillator is connected the front panel says REF*CAL with the * blinking. Attempting to change

[Elecraft] K3EXREF question

2016-03-07 Thread ANDY NEHAN
Sometime ago I installed the K3EXREF which I feed from an external 10MHz double oven Xtal oscillator. I am confident the K3EXREF is installed and configured correctly as when in use and the external oscillator is connected the front panel says REF*CAL with the * blinking. Attempting to change