Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor - feature request

On morning (probably about 1980) I was beamed west at setting moon looking for Asia on 2M. I heard a station calling CQ and said to myself, that's Dave's (W5UN) frequency. Sure enough, it was Dave calling CQ. So I tuned off him and heard another station calling CQ. I listened and was

Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor - feature request

I worked W5UN on two-way SSB on 2M EME. A local friend, John, W7BBM, has a homebrew(!) 30 foot dish on 1296, and up, and routinely says, "Hello moon" and receives speaker-quality returns. On 4/9/2017 4:36 PM, Josh wrote: SSB on EME? Wow! 73, Josh W6XU Sent from my mobile device On Apr

Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor - feature request

;; Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Sent: Sunday, April 9, 2017 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor - feature request Mel, Guess you are unaware, but I am on 6m-eme, 2m-eme, and 23cm-eme. The RTLT is approx 2.5 seconds.  But voice is rarely used and emestations rar

Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor - feature request

8 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor - feature request Just supplemental comments to what Joe has written: Having monitor of speech is certainly important for speaking properly (or singing). Note that speech able people who lose their hearing slowly also loose the ability to talk prope

Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor - feature request

SSB on EME? Wow! 73, Josh W6XU Sent from my mobile device > On Apr 9, 2017, at 4:13 PM, Mel Farrer via Elecraft > wrote: > > You think that delay is something try EME. At least there you have a decent > delay to get use to. > > Mel, K6KBE >

Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor - feature request

You think that delay is something try EME.  At least there you have a decent delay to get use to.  Mel, K6KBE From: Edward R Cole <kl...@acsalaska.net> To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Sent: Sunday, April 9, 2017 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S SS

Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor - feature request

frequency adjustment for Doppler 3. Verifying you have an adequate uplink into the system to be heard. Many learned to compensate (mentally disregarding their own voice - which is difficult), or turning down the Monitored audio level when transmitting. Ed - KL7UW Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB

[Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor - feature request

This depends on the monitor level and sensitive and proximity of the microphone. While I do not typically use a speaker I am sure that I have experienced monitor feedback with the K3S. All of my previous transceivers had a monitor switch which made it easy to toggle off. John KK9A From: Joe

Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor - feature request

On 4/8/2017 5:07 PM, Dave Fugleberg wrote: At any rate, at a 'normal' (for me) monitor level, it's not objectionable (or even really noticable) in my external speaker. The only way I could induce audio feedback was to hold the mic right in front of the external speaker with MON set at or near

Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor - feature request

! Viva le difference! 73 Lu - W4LT > -Original Message- > From: Ron D'Eau Claire [mailto:r...@cobi.biz] > Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2017 6:52 PM > To: lromer...@tampabay.rr.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor - feature request > >

Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor - feature request

al Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Luis V. Romero Sent: Saturday, April 8, 2017 10:04 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor - feature request All: As a broadcast professional, I completely agree with the need to

Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor - feature request

OK, I just ran my test again, but this time turned the monitor up all the way, and i did indeed hear monitor audio in the speakers. I stand corrected, and sorry for muddying the waters. No, I wasn't confusing Phones and Line Out. At any rate, at a 'normal' (for me) monitor level, it's not

Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor - feature request

On 08/04/17 21:21, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: > You are looking for a solution that is unique to your own situation > and would inconvenience hundreds of other users simply because you > are too lazy to program a PF/Macro to toggle CONFIG:SPKR+PH when > you use a headset. Which part of the word

Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor - feature request

On 4/8/2017 2:19 PM, Dave Fugleberg wrote: 2) If you use the REAR panel phones jack, the monitor audio comes through the phones as expected. If SPKR+PHONES is set to yes, the RX audio comes through the speakers, but the transmit Monitor audio does not. That is *NOT* my experience. With 5.57,

Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor - feature request

On 4/8/2017 2:02 PM, Richard Lamont wrote: So the hardware exists to enable the firmware (a) to know whether headphones are plugged in, and (b) to mute the speaker amplifier. This hardware is, AFAICS, used on receive. All I'm asking for as an option to do the same thing on transmit, if a

Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor - feature request

Hi, I use the rear panel jacks for my CM500 headset and I hear TX monitor in both configurations. Regards, Mike VP8NO 2) If you use the REAR panel phones jack, the monitor audio comes through the phones as expected. If SPKR+PHONES is set to yes, the RX audio comes through the speakers,

Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor - feature request

I think some of the misunderstandings on this thread are because the front and rear panel Phones jacks behave differently. Here's the deal: 1) the original poster is using the front panel PHONES jack, and has SPKR+Phones set to NO. This makes the radio behave like most rigs we're used to - i.e.,

Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor - feature request

On 08/04/17 18:11, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: > >> On 4/8/2017 2:24 AM, Richard Lamont wrote: >>> The firmware, however, does not appear to support what seems a simple >>> and common-sense requirement. > > It is *not* the firmware - it is the *hardware* that does not support > what you call a

Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor - feature request

> On 4/8/2017 2:24 AM, Richard Lamont wrote: >> The firmware, however, does not appear to support what seems a simple >> and common-sense requirement. It is *not* the firmware - it is the *hardware* that does not support what you call a "simple and common-sense requirement" and what others call

Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor - feature request

All: As a broadcast professional, I completely agree with the need to hear one's voice as side tone in your headset while speaking. Not hearing this does make one feel deaf. This is a common feature in professional intercom systems as well as music performance monitoring for singers and

Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor - feature request

On 08/04/17 15:42, Rick WA6NHC wrote: > I'll make two comments and no insult is intended or implied; its an > opinion. > > Your 'need' to hear your own voice during transmit is not a common (to > my experience) requirement. There is often a slight phase shift and > it's distracting to most so

Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor - feature request

Rick, Just to point out that I didn't write that. I suspect something's gone awry with the nesting. 73, Phil, GJ4CBQ. On 08/04/2017 15:42, Rick WA6NHC wrote: I'll make two comments and no insult is intended or implied; its an opinion. Your 'need' to hear your own voice during transmit is

Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor - feature request

I'll make two comments and no insult is intended or implied; its an opinion. Your 'need' to hear your own voice during transmit is not a common (to my experience) requirement. There is often a slight phase shift and it's distracting to most so they simply mute the receiver and are satisfied

Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor - feature request

I'd like this functionality as well. Phones either plugged in or not, RX audio only out of the speaker, RX audio and TX monitor in the phones. Maybe a toggle in the settings for the monitor, speaker, phones or both. Monitor level remains as set. Martin, HS0ZED On 08/04/2017 12:24,

Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor - feature request

Thank you Richard. Having slept on it, I realised that my earlier retraction, as a result of Joe's posting, was somewhat hasty. I blame tiredness. It all hinges on Joe's statement: "Richard admits that he does not need the speakers when he is using headphones/operating SSB" Re-reading

Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor - feature request

On 07/04/17 20:19, Phil, GJ4CBQ wrote: > It might be worth your while re-reading Richard's posts. > > What he is asking for is the **automatic** toggling of the monitor > function on insertion and removal of the headphone plug, without the use > of a macro. > > The CONFIG:SPRK+PH setting does

Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor - feature request

Fair comment, Joe. My apologies. Your original posting was spot-on. I was distracted by mention of button assignments and macros; as your solution implies, not needed. Interesting discussion, nonetheless. 73, Phil. On 07/04/2017 22:42, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Phil, *You* need to read

Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor - feature request

Phil, *You* need to read the responses. If Richard will *TURN OFF* CONFIG:SPRK+PH, there will be no monitor feedback when using the headphones. Simple, effective, and completely documented in the Owner's Manual (and has been since the very first K3). Richard admits that he does not need the

Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor - feature request

I have spkrs and phones on all the time and with mon set to a low value between 3 and 6, I can hear myself in the phones, but there's no feedback from the speakers. Does this help? Graham On 07/04/2017 15:47, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote: When I'm using a voice mode with a

Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor - feature request

Jim, It might be worth your while re-reading Richard's posts. What he is asking for is the **automatic** toggling of the monitor function on insertion and removal of the headphone plug, without the use of a macro. The CONFIG:SPRK+PH setting does not achieve this. And yes, I've been using

Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor - feature request

On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 1:03 AM, Richard Lamont wrote: > I'm just trying to keep the TX mon audio (from the mic) in the > headphones and out of the speakers, without having to use macros or > fiddling with controls. (All my macro buttons are used up, and if I > forgot to

Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor - feature request

Richard, Do you not read responses to your posts? Or do you reject anything that contradicts what you seem to have made up your mind to believe? Several of us have told you exactly how to accomplish what you want to do. I've been doing it for almost as long as I've owned a K3 (2008 for the

Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor - feature request

On 07/04/17 06:59, Bob Wilson, N6TV wrote: > On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 1:53 PM, Richard Lamont > wrote: > > When I'm using a voice mode with a microphone, I need the TX monitor > audio to appear in the headphones and NOT the speakers. > >

Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor

On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 1:53 PM, Richard Lamont wrote: > When I'm using a voice mode with a microphone, I need the TX monitor > audio to appear in the headphones and NOT the speakers. > > I need this to happen automatically, every time I plug in or unplug the > headphones,

Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor

Hmm. Might need an external volume control. I used this setup to boost the audio output and drive speakers with my KX3, but it might work with the K3. The K3 is capable of much higher audio output, but if you tap off the headphone audio, this will probably work. This uses a 12V audio amp

Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor

The K3 is the only transceiver I've used with this facility. Monitor level is saved per mode. I have SSB = 4, CW = 10 and Data = 5. I never notice any monitor audio on SSB, neither do I particularly feel the need and could just as well turn it off. Sidetone on telephones was an attempt to stop

Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor

To prevent monitor audio from the microphone from reaching the speaker, while keeping it going to the headphones, and to do this without operator intervention, seems a simple enough requirement. If you do not want speaker audio when using headphones set CONFIG:SPRK+PH = OFF *AS DOCUMENTED IN

Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor

You can write a macro to control the monitor level. Use the ML command. ML (Monitor Level; GET/SET) SET/RSP format: MLxxx; where xxx is 000-060. Applies to current mode (CW sidetone, voice, or data). In voice modes, applies to MON level, even if DVR monitor level is independent (MAIN:TX DVR).

Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor

Barry, Thank you. You've confirmed what I suspected: that the desired functionality doesn't exist. To prevent monitor audio from the microphone from reaching the speaker, while keeping it going to the headphones, and to do this without operator intervention, seems a simple enough requirement.

Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor

Richard I do not believe that the K3 can do what you want. The monitor is either on or off independently of whether you are listening through the speaker or headphones. If you mainly listen through the speaker, just turn the monitor to zero and them turn it up when you wear headphones. I think

Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor

On Thu,4/6/2017 1:53 PM, Richard Lamont wrote: Is there any way of configuring the rig to do precisely this? Yes. It's easy. In a post a few hours ago, I described the process. And it's in the manual. See the large tabulated description of Menu Settings. 73, Jim K9YC

Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor

My previous post might not have made it clear what I'm trying to achieve with the K3S. For RX audio, I usually listen on speakers. These mute when I plug the headphones in. That's standard and obvious and just what I want. When I'm using a voice mode with a microphone, I need the TX monitor

Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor

Hi Richard, There's a menu setting for SPKR + PHONES (from memory, I think that's what it's called) that toggles the speaker on and off. I assign that function to one of the soft buttons. Works great! 73, Jim K9YC On Thu,4/6/2017 11:30 AM, Richard Lamont wrote: It would be useful when

Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor

Richard, Certainly, turn the MON to zero - either manually or with a Macro. 73, Don W3FPR On 4/6/2017 2:30 PM, Richard Lamont wrote: Is there any way of configuring the rig so that when using a voice mode with a microphone, the TX monitor feeds the headphones but not the speaker(s)?

[Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor

It would be useful when operating SSB to be able to hear my own voice in the headphones, but not on the speaker, where it can cause feedback. Is there any way of configuring the rig so that when using a voice mode with a microphone, the TX monitor feeds the headphones but not the speaker(s)? 73,