Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 & Drake TR7

2019-01-14 Thread Walter Underwood
I know nothing about the TR7, but I searched the web for "drake tr7 output power adjustment” and found this useful-looking page, with photos. http://www.wb4hfn.com/DRAKE/DrakeArticles/TR7_ALC_Control/TR7%20ACL%20Control.htm

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 & Drake TR7

2019-01-14 Thread Gary Smith
I hesitate to answer to this, it's been so long since I had a TR7 (My 2nd rig) and my memory of it is not clear. Given this disclaimer, I believe you'll find an adjustable piece, two wafers with a rectangular key hole in the center part to turn it. Cap or resistance, I don't recall what it

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 & Drake TR7

2019-01-13 Thread Martin Sole
It's worthwhile noting that either adjusting the internal ALC to limit power or providing some external means to control it is really quite essential with some of the early solid state and certainly many of the hybrid radios. Most of these radios had NO proper power control in SSB. Whilst the

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 & Drake TR7

2019-01-13 Thread Don Wilhelm
Marcel, About the maximum voltage, that might be in the TR7 specifications. OTOH, start with the pot at a low voltage and increase it until you achieve the results that you want. The K3 EXT ALC default threshold is -4.0 volts, so that may be a good starting point for your experiments. 73,

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 & Drake TR7

2019-01-13 Thread Marcel Jorba via Elecraft
Thanks to all of for your prompt answers On CW it works great thanks to the carrier adjustment control On SSB: it goes to 150W out very easy Yes it is just for fun. The K3 is great but the TR7 is funny and special. One last question: Someone suggested to use a 9V battery  with a pot to inject

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 & Drake TR7

2019-01-13 Thread Wes Stewart
Drake rated the TR7 by input power as was common then.  250W.  They recommended a fan kit for high duty cycle RTTY operation. I owned one for years and it was a wonderful radio.  The only issue was tin-plated pins (sound familiar) on the interface between the main circuity and the digital

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 & Drake TR7

2019-01-13 Thread Grant Youngman
As an aside on the TR-7 (one of my all-time favorite radios), Drake generally limiting output power to about 120W (adjusted on 20M) to keep the PA healthy long term. While the PA is capable of 150-200W output, it was certainly not recommended. As to cooling, there was an optional fan to cool

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 & Drake TR7

2019-01-13 Thread ab2tc
Hi again, I totally mangled the 2nd statement. Corrected below. Knut ab2tc wrote > Hi again, > > True, but the TR7 is all solid state, including the finals. See here: > > http://www.wb4hfn.com/DRAKE/DrakeArticles/InsideTheTR7/Inside_The_TR7-01.htm > > According to that article Drake claims

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 & Drake TR7

2019-01-13 Thread ab2tc
Hi again, True, but the TR7 is all solid state, including the finals. See here: http://www.wb4hfn.com/DRAKE/DrakeArticles/InsideTheTR7/Inside_The_TR7-01.htm According to that article Drake claims 130-150W output for bands at above 20m and 60-100W on 80-15m. Boy, is that transceiver ever

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 & Drake TR7

2019-01-13 Thread K9MA
On 1/13/2019 12:35, ab2tc wrote: With typical efficiencies seen in solid state PAs it is probably rated at no more than 100W output, Actually, tube amplifiers can be quite a bit more efficient than solid state ones. The theoretical limit for class B is around 70 percent, a practical limit

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 & Drake TR7

2019-01-13 Thread ab2tc
Hi Marcel and Don, The TR7 is rated at 250W *input*. See here: https://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/hamhf/tr7.html With typical efficiencies seen in solid state PAs it is probably rated at no more than 100W output, so the KPA500 should give you noticeably more power. Anyway, Don's suggestion

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 & Drake TR7

2019-01-12 Thread Don Wilhelm
Marcel, Can you add a "Power Control" to the TR7? It may be as easy as applying a constant negative voltage to the ALC input. That constant ALC voltage will not cause the problems encountered when using the dynamic ALC voltage that is applied from the amplifier. 73, Don W3FPR On 1/12/2019

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 & Drake TR7

2019-01-12 Thread bp
Hello EA3IN, There is a 1 kilowatt solid state amplifier, using NXP 188 final power transistors, built in England. Please see LinearAmp company, model Gemini HF-1K amplifier.  I believe that DXshop is the vendor.  Regards, bp.  K2AYA. On 1/12/19 12:59 PM, Marcel Jorba via Elecraft wrote:

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 & Drake TR7

2019-01-12 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
If you can run 200 watts PEP with the TR7, why run a 500 watt amp?    Otherwise, you'll need a 10dB attenuator between the TR7 and the KPA500.  Hence turn 180 watts of RF from the TR7 into heat as it takes only about 20 watts to drive the KPA500 to rated output. 73 Bob, K4TAX On 1/12/2019

[Elecraft] KPA500 & Drake TR7

2019-01-12 Thread Marcel Jorba via Elecraft
Greetings from Barcelona I have here a K3-KPA500 setup that runs great I also have a TR7 and I am thinking about using it together with the KPA500 The obvious problem: The TR7 delivers a lot of watts (200 pep). Is it an idea to discard? Or is there any reasonable approach to? ALC control is not