Re: [Elecraft] QRP signals from Pathfinder probe (off topic)

2015-07-17 Thread David Woolley
315w exceeds the total power budget for the Voyager 1 spacecraft, which is currently 254.6 watts. The only reference to the transmitter power I can find suggests that it is 20 watts. The 315 is probably EIRP, but that is not what was being quoted for the Pluto probe. They both seem to have

Re: [Elecraft] QRP signals from Pathfinder probe (off topic)

2015-07-17 Thread Matthew Cook
Lets not forget to include Madrid (Spain) and Canberra (Australia) in the above story, without them Goldstone cant do it on it's own. One station may start the transmission, but every 8-12hrs each station seamlessly hands over to the next to provide continuous coverage at the earth rotates. It's

Re: [Elecraft] QRP signals from Pathfinder probe (off topic)

2015-07-16 Thread Edward R Cole
. It was not easy! 73, Ed - KL7UW --- From: brian als...@nc.rr.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRP signals from Pathfinder probe (off topic) Message-ID: 55a80893.4040...@nc.rr.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252

Re: [Elecraft] QRP signals from Pathfinder probe (off topic)

2015-07-16 Thread Jeff Stai
I decided to spend a minute googling, here's a paper with a lot of cool tech details: http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.466.3341rep=rep1type=pdf 73 jeff wk6i On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Jeff Stai wk6i.j...@gmail.com wrote: Well, at least they have big antennas. ;)

[Elecraft] QRP signals from Pathfinder probe (off topic)

2015-07-16 Thread ac5p
Heard last night on  Nova program that the transmitter on the Pathfinder Pluto probe was 10 watts.  Anyone have a clue as to the signal path loss at 3 billion miles and what levels the deep space dish receiving networks are dealing with?   Incredible that the data stream can be extracted from

Re: [Elecraft] QRP signals from Pathfinder probe (off topic)

2015-07-16 Thread Jeff Stai
Well, at least they have big antennas. ;) I read the other day on the NOVA website that New Horizons will be downloading the data acquired in the flyby at a data rate of only 1 kb/s - think 1200 baud modem for those of you old enough to remember them. And there was another fascinating article

Re: [Elecraft] QRP signals from Pathfinder probe (off topic)

2015-07-16 Thread Brian Moran via Elecraft
Here's another paper that details the RF side of things. They needed an Ultra-Stable Oscillator, as well :-) http://www.boulder.swri.edu/~tcase/NH%20RF%20Telecom%20Sys%20ID1369%20FINAL_Deboy.pdf -Brian N9ADG __ Elecraft mailing

Re: [Elecraft] QRP signals from Pathfinder probe (off topic)

2015-07-16 Thread brian
It would seem that the DX record is held by the Voygers which long ago left the solar system. I don't know their power but they still check in from way beyond Pluto. So NewHorizons is DX but not real DX YET. 73 de Brian/K3KO On 7/16/2015 18:31 PM, Scott Simpson wrote: some discussion

Re: [Elecraft] QRP signals from Pathfinder probe (off topic)

2015-07-16 Thread Brian D
Voyager is still going strong many times further away than Pluto, 315w to a 3.7m dish. from over 19 billion KM. a...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Heard last night on Nova program that the transmitter on the Pathfinder Pluto probe was 10 watts. Anyone have a clue as to the signal path loss at 3

Re: [Elecraft] QRP signals from Pathfinder probe (off topic)

2015-07-16 Thread Fred Townsend
on GPS receivers. Transmission flight of path is six hours. 73 Fred, AE6QL -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of a...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 11:10 AM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] QRP signals from Pathfinder

Re: [Elecraft] QRP signals from Pathfinder probe (off topic)

2015-07-16 Thread Scott Simpson
some discussion including calculation of losses around 147db here: https://www.reddit.com/r/amateurradio/comments/3d93en/the_radio_signal_from_the_new_horizons_spacecraft/ scott sasimp...@gmail.com On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 1:10 PM, a...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Heard last night on Nova program

Re: [Elecraft] QRP signals from Pathfinder probe (off topic)

2015-07-16 Thread Don Wilhelm
Certainly, with a proper transverter (or down converter) and adequate receive antennas, the K3 could serve as a suitable IF. The decode of the received data is quite another matter. Will anyone do that with their K3, I don't know, but the K3 is capable enough given an adequate down converter.

Re: [Elecraft] QRP signals from Pathfinder probe (off topic)

2015-07-16 Thread Tony Estep
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 4:33 PM, Edward R Cole kl...@acsalaska.net wrote: = -146.5 dBm = Very good, Ed, thanks. I'm sure they use some sort of FEC encoding like that of the JT software. If I understand that correctly, such a signal can be decoded if it's a couple of s-units,

Re: [Elecraft] QRP signals from Pathfinder probe (off topic)

2015-07-16 Thread rick.ag...@gmail.com
Here is details on spacecraft design and on the RF comms subsystem. Interesting reading http://www.boulder.swri.edu/pkb/ssr/ssr-fountain.pdf The New Horizons Spacecraft - Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Laboratory

Re: [Elecraft] QRP signals from Pathfinder probe (off topic)

2015-07-16 Thread Mel Farrer via Elecraft
: rick.ag...@gmail.com rick.ag...@gmail.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QRP signals from Pathfinder probe (off topic) Here is details on spacecraft design and on the RF comms subsystem. Interesting reading http