Re: [Elecraft] Reliable PL-259 UHF connector engagement

2020-07-30 Thread Wes
for some hams no job is so simple that it cannot be done wrong. 73 Frank W3LPL - Original Message - From: "Bill Frantz" To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 9:05:22 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Reliable PL-259 UHF connector engagement As someone who is

Re: [Elecraft] Reliable PL-259 UHF connector engagement

2020-07-29 Thread Drew AF2Z
Yes, Apple are also offshore products. As noted in recent report: "Defective iPhone parts worth $43 million stolen, used to make new iPhones ...The operation has reportedly been running for the past three years. Workers would set aside defective parts for scrapping. However, the components

Re: [Elecraft] Reliable PL-259 UHF connector engagement

2020-07-29 Thread Ralph Parker
>...several REAL Amphenol UHF connectors I ordered, which arrived in sealed plastic bags, had no threads on the inside of the coupling rings. The remainder of the connectors in the shipment were just fine. I have a couple of those too. I thought they were a special push-on version for

Re: [Elecraft] Reliable PL-259 UHF connector engagement

2020-07-29 Thread Jim Brown
On 7/29/2020 12:25 PM, Arliss wrote: Except that several REAL Amphenol UHF connectors I ordered, which arrived in sealed plastic bags, had no threads on the inside of the coupling rings. The remainder of the connectors in the shipment were just fine. I've seen that too, no more than one bad

Re: [Elecraft] Reliable PL-259 UHF connector engagement

2020-07-29 Thread Phil Kane
On 7/29/2020 12:02 PM, George Danner wrote: > > In the 60s & 70s, we had a screwdriver like tool for removing and > inserting PL-259 connectors in patch-bays in TV stations. It was a > screwdriver handle and shaft with a steel tube slightly smaller than the > pl-259. The tube had a longitudinal

Re: [Elecraft] Reliable PL-259 UHF connector engagement

2020-07-29 Thread Wes
Better than no threads at all:-) Wes  N7WS On 7/29/2020 3:33 PM, donov...@erols.com wrote: One Japanese antenna manufacturer -- years ago -- supplied their antenna with a mating PL-259 with metric threads... 73 Frank W3LPL __

Re: [Elecraft] Reliable PL-259 UHF connector engagement

2020-07-29 Thread donovanf
] Reliable PL-259 UHF connector engagement Similar experience here: threading defect. Amphenol is an offshore product. Need I say more? Only this-- make sure to test the threading & fit of the plugs on your equipment sockets *before* soldering them to cables. 73, Drew AF2Z On

Re: [Elecraft] Reliable PL-259 UHF connector engagement

2020-07-29 Thread donovanf
Frank W3LPL - Original Message - From: "Bill Frantz" To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 9:05:22 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Reliable PL-259 UHF connector engagement As someone who is currently switching bands by going outside and replugging PL259

Re: [Elecraft] Reliable PL-259 UHF connector engagement

2020-07-29 Thread w3ab
I would suggest NOT using metal tools to tighten/loosen PL-259 connectors. Too much of an opportunity to damage the connector. The silicon "mat", for want of a better term, used to loosen jar lids is the way to go. Cut a piece ~3"L X 1"W and you have a good method to "get a grip" on the

Re: [Elecraft] Reliable PL-259 UHF connector engagement

2020-07-29 Thread Bill Hammond via Elecraft
Hi George, I was over program services in Dallas back in the 1970’s for Southwestern Bell. We provided the last mile for radio and TV remote operations. I spent more than a little time handing off our end. We also provided studio to transmitter links. I saw that tool in use at just about

Re: [Elecraft] Reliable PL-259 UHF connector engagement

2020-07-29 Thread Bill Frantz
As someone who is currently switching bands by going outside and replugging PL259s, I fully agree that other connectors, e.g. BNC would be nicer. I have gotten in the habit of skipping pulling out my LeatherMan and instead joining the connection to the point where I can feel the teeth

Re: [Elecraft] Reliable PL-259 UHF connector engagement

2020-07-29 Thread George Danner
Bill, Looks very similar. 73 George  AI4VZ On 7/29/20 3:21 PM, William Hammond wrote: Perhaps looking something like this one (BNC)? https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=6510 73, Bill-AK5X On Jul 29, 2020, at 2:02 PM, George Danner

Re: [Elecraft] Reliable PL-259 UHF connector engagement

2020-07-29 Thread Drew AF2Z
Similar experience here: threading defect. Amphenol is an offshore product. Need I say more? Only this-- make sure to test the threading & fit of the plugs on your equipment sockets *before* soldering them to cables. 73, Drew AF2Z On 07/29/20 14:25, Arliss wrote: Except that several

Re: [Elecraft] Reliable PL-259 UHF connector engagement

2020-07-29 Thread Arliss
Except that several REAL Amphenol UHF connectors I ordered, which arrived in sealed plastic bags, had no threads on the inside of the coupling rings. The remainder of the connectors in the shipment were just fine. 73, Arliss W7XU On 7/29/2020 1:32 PM, Jim Brown wrote: On 7/29/2020 11:21

Re: [Elecraft] Reliable PL-259 UHF connector engagement

2020-07-29 Thread William Hammond via Elecraft
Perhaps looking something like this one (BNC)? https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=6510 73, Bill-AK5X > On Jul 29, 2020, at 2:02 PM, George Danner wrote: > > Andy, > > In the 60s & 70s, we had a screwdriver like tool for removing and

Re: [Elecraft] Reliable PL-259 UHF connector engagement

2020-07-29 Thread George Danner
Andy, In the 60s & 70s, we had a screwdriver like tool for removing and inserting PL-259 connectors in patch-bays in TV stations. It was a screwdriver handle and shaft with a steel tube slightly smaller than the pl-259. The tube had a longitudinal slot that was big enough for the cable to

Re: [Elecraft] Reliable PL-259 UHF connector engagement

2020-07-29 Thread Walter Underwood
I’m sure those are excellently manufactured, but the teeth are a poor design. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Jul 29, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Jim Brown wrote: > > On 7/29/2020 11:21 AM, Walter Underwood wrote: >> That is exactly why I consider UHF

Re: [Elecraft] Reliable PL-259 UHF connector engagement

2020-07-29 Thread Jim Brown
On 7/29/2020 11:21 AM, Walter Underwood wrote: That is exactly why I consider UHF connectors to be a poor design. There's nothing wrong with REAL UHF connectors, like Amphenol 83-1SP, and surplus adapters stamped with MIL spec numbers. It's the cheap junk connectors that cause the problems.

Re: [Elecraft] Reliable PL-259 UHF connector engagement

2020-07-29 Thread Walter Underwood
> On Jul 29, 2020, at 9:49 AM, donov...@erols.com wrote: > > Unlike N and BNC connectors, a PL-259 is dependent on proper > engagement of its outer shell and interconnecting teeth to the mating > SO-239 socket. That is exactly why I consider UHF connectors to be a poor design. I use

[Elecraft] Reliable PL-259 UHF connector engagement

2020-07-29 Thread Andy Durbin
When I worked in the aerospace industry it was common practice to use special "pliers" for removing "Cannon" multi-pin round connectors. These were not any old plumber's pipe wrench (you know - the ones that plumbers use to destroy chrome finish bathroom fittings) but a special tool designed

[Elecraft] Reliable PL-259 UHF connector engagement

2020-07-29 Thread donovanf
PL-259's are excellent connectors when installed and used correctly. Unlike N and BNC connectors, a PL-259 is dependent on proper engagement of its outer shell and interconnecting teeth to the mating SO-239 socket. Use a small pair of pliers to snug up -- not tighten -- the shell. Be