Re: [Elecraft] suggested PC???

2016-01-06 Thread Neil Zampella
FWIW ... I've got everything setup wired in the shack, but everything (cable coax, ethernet, power) runs through an uninterruptible power supply (ups). Many of the higher end models provide not only power surge protection and battery, but lightning/surge protection for coax and ethernet.

Re: [Elecraft] suggested PC???

2016-01-06 Thread Pete Smith N4ZR
Sign me up for wireless - all those network cables are just too effective antennas for lightning surges, and not just for direct hits. I am on my 3d serial transceiver in my K3 I now have a surge protector right at the port on the radio, but an still uncomfortable.. 73, Pete N4ZR Download

[Elecraft] suggested PC???

2016-01-05 Thread Jerry
Now that I have had my k3s on the air for a couple of months I'm ready to interface it to a computer. I am planning on a dedicated PC just for use in the shack. My only uses (that I can think of now) are logging and control of the k3s, perhaps remotely at some point. It seems to me an I7

Re: [Elecraft] suggested PC???

2016-01-05 Thread Rick WA6NHC
Last year I decided that the dual core desktop was not enough to run the station so I built a new computer, something I hadn't done in over a decade (because pre-assembled is cheaper). I didn't want the bleeding edge, but I wanted something quick that would run without much intervention for

Re: [Elecraft] suggested PC??? Real RS-232 ports

2016-01-05 Thread Cliff Frescura
with a converter, but once you get above 2, then I think it is a good choice. 73, Cliff K3LL -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Tim Tucker Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 10:44 AM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] suggested PC??? I

Re: [Elecraft] suggested PC???

2016-01-05 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
You probably can't get a PC that's too small. For logging and control, an Intel Atom (or the equivalent AMD ultra-low power CPU) would likely be an order of magnitude more than you need. If you want to do digital (soundcard) modes, the slowest i3 would be lots. Under Windows, I think more

Re: [Elecraft] suggested PC???

2016-01-05 Thread Gordon LaPoint
Jerry, An I7 is more than enough processor. You will want a video card that can driver at least 2 monitors. You should consider adding real RS232 ports, at least 2 or 4 if you will ever run two radios, and even more if you want to control rotors, amps (KPA-500) or other accessories.

Re: [Elecraft] suggested PC???

2016-01-05 Thread Tim Tucker
I haven't had used a "real" (old fashioned) serial port on any PC that controls radio equipment in probably 10 years. It's really not necessary if you purchase quality USB/Serial adapters (no fake chipsets) where needed. The only PC I have with a old-fashioned serial port is an ancient Toshiba

Re: [Elecraft] suggested PC???

2016-01-05 Thread tomb18
set.73 Tom Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Original message From: Don Wilhelm <w3...@embarqmail.com> Date: 2016-01-05 2:55 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Jerry <je...@molaver.org>, Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] suggested PC??? Jerry, Put some real R

Re: [Elecraft] suggested PC???

2016-01-05 Thread Barry LaZar
st.net> Cc: "Barry LaZar" <k3...@comcast.net>; "Randy Cook" <k6cr...@gmail.com>; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: 1/5/2016 10:33:53 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] suggested PC??? Yeah, another Mac user here that easily runs most Windows apps in a VM when needed. I have also u

Re: [Elecraft] suggested PC???

2016-01-05 Thread James Bennett
IGI, and during a contest, >>> I use N1MM+ in place of HRD. My experience has taught me to not use an >>> Apple base system for this situation. However, there are other collections >>> of S/W, but I expect the integration my not be as easy. >>> >>> 7

Re: [Elecraft] suggested PC???

2016-01-05 Thread Brian Denley
Barry LaZar" <k3...@comcast.net> > Cc: "Randy Cook" <k6cr...@gmail.com>; elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Sent: 1/5/2016 10:02:28 PM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] suggested PC??? > >> My i7 iMac runs Windows 7 as well as OSX. With 32 Gb of memory, I can run >>

Re: [Elecraft] suggested PC???

2016-01-05 Thread Barry LaZar
enley" <b.den...@comcast.net> To: "Barry LaZar" <k3...@comcast.net> Cc: "Randy Cook" <k6cr...@gmail.com>; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: 1/5/2016 10:02:28 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] suggested PC??? My i7 iMac runs Windows 7 as well as OSX. With 32 Gb of memory,

Re: [Elecraft] suggested PC???

2016-01-05 Thread kevino z
a contest, I use >> N1MM+ in place of HRD. My experience has taught me to not use an Apple base >> system for this situation. However, there are other collections of S/W, but >> I expect the integration my not be as easy. >> >> 73, >> Barry >> K3NDM &

Re: [Elecraft] suggested PC???

2016-01-05 Thread Brian Denley
gt; From: "Randy Cook" <k6cr...@gmail.com> > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Sent: 1/5/2016 8:35:48 PM > Subject: [Elecraft] suggested PC??? > >> Consider an Apple Mac. On the Apple website, you can get a iMac or MacBook >> Air ‘refurbished’. After

Re: [Elecraft] suggested PC???

2016-01-05 Thread Doug Person via Elecraft
+ Subject: [Elecraft] suggested PC??? Now that I have had my k3s on the air for a couple of months I'm ready to interface it to a computer. I am planning on a dedicated PC just for use in the shack. My only uses (that I can think of now) are logging and control of the k3s, perhaps remotely

Re: [Elecraft] suggested PC???

2016-01-05 Thread Wes (N7WS)
That's the way I see it. I have a Lenovo T400 laptop running Win 7 Home with a core 2 duo P8400 @2.2 GHz with 4 GB of RAM. I slapped in a 128G SSD and put the original HD in a caddy in the CD drive slot. Runs everything, USB keyboard/mouse, SDR-IQ, K3S, DXBase, MMTTY, external monitor, etc.

Re: [Elecraft] suggested PC??? Real RS-232 ports

2016-01-05 Thread Doug Person via Elecraft
, but once you get above 2, then I think it is a good choice. 73, Cliff K3LL -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Tim Tucker Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 10:44 AM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] suggested PC??? I haven't had

Re: [Elecraft] suggested PC??? Real RS-232 ports

2016-01-05 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 10:44 AM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] suggested PC??? I haven't had used a "real" (old fashioned) serial port on any PC that controls radio equipment in probably 10 years. It's really not necessary if you purchase quality USB/Serial adapter

Re: [Elecraft] suggested PC???

2016-01-05 Thread Jeff Stai
Only you can decide how much PC you need to do what you want to do. If you are just control and logging you can get by with 2-4G of RAM and a fairly modest 160 gig disk drive, and a dual core. Even though the K3s has the USB port I would still get something that would allow you to add one or more

Re: [Elecraft] suggested PC???

2016-01-05 Thread n6lrv
and should support any USB 2.0 device. The 3.0 compliant ports can also supply a little more DC current as well. Gary > From: je...@molaver.org > To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 17:53:14 + > Subject: [Elecraft] suggested PC??? > > Now that I have had

Re: [Elecraft] suggested PC???

2016-01-05 Thread Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO
I put together a new Windows PC about 2 years ago. The single component that seems to have made the biggest difference is a 250 GB solid-state drive (SSD). The computer boots in about 20 seconds (OK, the I7 processor helps too), which is important to me since I don't like to leave it on all

Re: [Elecraft] suggested PC???

2016-01-05 Thread kev...@coho.net
I built two new boxes last year. One of them is an Ubuntu headless server and the other an 8 core box running Win7. The 8 core box only has 16 GB of memory at present but I'll fill the board later this year. It is very nice to have serial ports available. If the motherboard did not have

Re: [Elecraft] suggested PC???

2016-01-05 Thread Gary K9GS
Hi Jerry, Don't use a wired network. I had my shack computer on a wired network when I took a lightning hit a couple of years ago. Everything connected on the wired network was zapped (2 PCs, router, modem, K3 RS-232 port, WinKey (connected to one of the PCs), and the Cable TV amplifier

Re: [Elecraft] suggested PC???

2016-01-05 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
While everything in my shack is wireless...almost, I do have a USB cable between the laptop computer and K3S.What is the recommendation to make / convert the K3S port to wireless? 73 Bob K4TAX On 1/5/2016 7:14 PM, Gary K9GS wrote: When I rebuilt everything i went wireless with all of

[Elecraft] suggested PC???

2016-01-05 Thread Randy Cook
Consider an Apple Mac. On the Apple website, you can get a iMac or MacBook Air ‘refurbished’. After years of dealing with viruses, blown updates, buggy software, etc. on work computers, I come home to a 5 year old MacBook Air machine that just works and will probably run forever. I like

Re: [Elecraft] suggested PC???

2016-01-05 Thread Gary K9GS
I probably should have worded that better. All of my COMPUTER connections to my network are wireless. My K3, WinKey, etc are cabled to the hamshack PC. On 1/5/2016 7:21 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote: While everything in my shack is wireless...almost, I do have a USB cable between the

Re: [Elecraft] suggested PC???

2016-01-05 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
OK thanks. I'm wireless with both of the laptops, wireless to the printer, and to the house control systems. Just the radio connected via wire to the computer. 73 Bob, K4TAX On 1/5/2016 7:37 PM, Gary K9GS wrote: I probably should have worded that better. All of my COMPUTER connections

Re: [Elecraft] suggested PC??? Real RS-232 ports

2016-01-05 Thread WB4JFI
Original serial and parallel ports on the original IBM backplane were I/O port mapped, not memory mapped. There were discrepancies between port numbers between the true IBM I/O port numbers and "clones". Ports 3F8 and 2F8 for COM1 and 2, 3E8 and 2E8 for COM3 and 4. On a true original IBM,

Re: [Elecraft] suggested PC??? Real RS-232 ports

2016-01-05 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Folks - we're getting pretty OT. Lets wind this thread down at this time in the interest of keeping the signal to noise level reasonable for other readers. 73, Eric /elecraft.com/ On 1/5/2016 4:07 PM, WB4JFI wrote: Original serial and parallel ports on the original IBM backplane were I/O

Re: [Elecraft] suggested PC???

2016-01-05 Thread Don Wilhelm
Jerry, Put some real RS-232 serial ports in it. USB is fine for some things, but there are times you want a serial port and USB to serial adapters can sometimes be finicky. I would limit the memory to 4 GB if it were mine, and yes, I have a tower computer that I have dedicated to the

Re: [Elecraft] suggested PC??? Real RS-232 ports

2016-01-05 Thread Don Wilhelm
I have to agree with Joe. If you must use a USB to serial converter for serious all purpose use, get an Edgeport product. There is a difference between a 'converter' and an 'adapter'. Most USB to serial devices available in the consumer market are 'adapters' - the Edgeport was directed at

Re: [Elecraft] suggested PC??? Real RS-232 ports

2016-01-05 Thread Jim Brown
I agree with Joe. A 2-port Edgeport provides two good RS-232 ports for SO2R operation with my very new T540 Thinkpad. It, and another Thinkpad bought around the same time, are the first I've ever owned that didn't have a hardware serial port either on the chassis or on a port

Re: [Elecraft] suggested PC???

2016-01-05 Thread Barry LaZar
expect the integration my not be as easy. 73, Barry K3NDM -- Original Message -- From: "Randy Cook" <k6cr...@gmail.com> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: 1/5/2016 8:35:48 PM Subject: [Elecraft] suggested PC??? Consider an Apple Mac. On the Apple website, you can get a